Autostop disconnect at battery

[MST Overland]

The Auto Start/Stop feature interferes with my auxiliary electronics. I have them wired directly to the battery using a Rough Country controller, but this feature causes an interrupt in current that shuts off my ham radio and all other accessories. It is very disruptive.

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[Gizmokid2005]

If you lived in an area with rotary intersections (AKA roundabouts or traffic circles) it would become obvious very quickly. Traffic creeps forward a few feet at a time when it is busy. ASS can be a safety hazard in this situation.

Also, we have been trained forever to not shut down a hot turbocharger, and let it cool down at idle to prevent oil coking on the bearing surfaces. I’m not interested in testing whether or not that is still necessary, as I intend to keep the truck longer than the warranty period. Gas is cheap; engines are expensive.

ASS doesn't continually shutdown/startup on stop & go at a roundabout - the system is designed to recognize "creep" and it won't engage for a period of time after disengaging due to vehicle movement. I've driven thousands of miles in stop & go and through round-abouts and have never had an issue.

Because it's 100F+ (38-39C) down here and the truck shutting off at every light means no AC and the cab temp will quickly climb to very uncomfortable levels. Yes it's supposed to have the temp sensor to prevent it from shutting the truck off when it's really hot, but that only works when it feels like it.

ASS won't shut down if the exterior temp is too high (I believe the cutoff is between 90°-95°F), so in your 100°F+ temps - it wouldn't engage anyways. Being cooler than that and the sun beating in with it not engaging is a different thing and a valid complaint though.

 

[Kemo Sabe]

Oops, my bad. Sorry

Thanks for the information. Good video.

 

[69/19Ranger]

Why not just let the system do what it's designed to do?

Which is to save you money on gas.

Ford paid a bunch of mech/elec/fluid/sftwr engineers a bunch of money for many years to bring this truck to market and have it pretty close to perfect.

Ford wanted to show that the 2.3 is up to the job of a small displacement V8 in a truck.

The auto stop start system is easily canceled at any moment after it shuts the engine down by:

Pressing the aforementioned ASS cancel button.

Turning the a/c fan switch to max

Turning the steering wheel more than a very few degrees

Very slightly relieving your foot pressure on the brake pedal.

All of which are an obvious terrible inconvenience.

Why burn gas you could avoid burning for the few moments that the engine is not running at a light.

Let it do its job.

Now, if your peeling the tread off your tires every time you leave the light to get the holeshot over grandma in the caravan, two lanes over,
I completely understand your beef with the auto stop start.

You obviously don't care about saving any money.
Gas is expensive
Tires are more expensive
Transmissions are even more expensive

The shareholders of fomoco salute you.

Under "normal" operating conditions,
During the short amount of time that that the engine is off, (there is a time limit depending on your state of charge)
your turbo is not going to overheat
and coke the bearings and destroy the turbo.
Not changing your oil will do that just fine.

Your battery is not going to die.
Well, maybe, if you got 10 tons of electronic crap badly wired in. But still, probably not because in that case the engine shouldn't shut down ever, due to the electrical load.

And your not going to melt because all you got to do is turn the fan speed up.

I get the feeling most of the people who just hate the auto start stop just ain't gonna have their truck doing any of that ecocommieliberalcrap.

If so, 1st why would you buy an "ECO"boost engine in the first place?

2nd how many were planning to buy a ranger hybrid when it comes out?
It's supposed to be plug in hybrid.

Gonna disable the EV only mode, that it can run on for the the first 30 miles or so, too?

Anyway, the oil company shareholders salute you for letting them get into your pocket a little deeper every week just to stick it to the libtards.

And for those who say that the ranger doesn't get the gas mileage they were promised.

You are wrong.

If you drove you ranger in the manner prescribed for the EPA mileage test you would be getting 26mpg or more.

All you have to do is accelerate very very slowly and never, ever, exceed 55 mph.

The test was designed in the 70's when the 55mph speed limit was enacted and enforced.

To impress upon people how much money they could save and how much further they could go on the expensive gasoline that was rationed during the oil embargo.

Still same test.

Everyone drives 80 everywhere

20mpg at 80mph ain't too bad..

And auto stop start helps.

 

[Isuzu elf would be better]

Why not just let the system do what it's designed to do?

Which is to save you money on gas.

Ford paid a bunch of mech/elec/fluid/sftwr engineers a bunch of money for many years to bring this truck to market and have it pretty close to perfect.

Ford wanted to show that the 2.3 is up to the job of a small displacement V8 in a truck.

The auto stop start system is easily canceled at any moment after it shuts the engine down by:

Pressing the aforementioned ASS cancel button.

Turning the a/c fan switch to max

Turning the steering wheel more than a very few degrees

Very slightly relieving your foot pressure on the brake pedal.

All of which are an obvious terrible inconvenience.

Why burn gas you could avoid burning for the few moments that the engine is not running at a light.

Let it do its job.

Now, if your peeling the tread off your tires every time you leave the light to get the holeshot over grandma in the caravan, two lanes over,
I completely understand your beef with the auto stop start.

You obviously don't care about saving any money.
Gas is expensive
Tires are more expensive
Transmissions are even more expensive

The shareholders of fomoco salute you.

Under "normal" operating conditions,
During the short amount of time that that the engine is off, (there is a time limit depending on your state of charge)
your turbo is not going to overheat
and coke the bearings and destroy the turbo.
Not changing your oil will do that just fine.

Your battery is not going to die.
Well, maybe, if you got 10 tons of electronic crap badly wired in. But still, probably not because in that case the engine shouldn't shut down ever, due to the electrical load.

And your not going to melt because all you got to do is turn the fan speed up.

I get the feeling most of the people who just hate the auto start stop just ain't gonna have their truck doing any of that ecocommieliberalcrap.

If so, 1st why would you buy an "ECO"boost engine in the first place?

2nd how many were planning to buy a ranger hybrid when it comes out?
It's supposed to be plug in hybrid.

Gonna disable the EV only mode, that it can run on for the the first 30 miles or so, too?

Anyway, the oil company shareholders salute you for letting them get into your pocket a little deeper every week just to stick it to the libtards.

And for those who say that the ranger doesn't get the gas mileage they were promised.

You are wrong.

If you drove you ranger in the manner prescribed for the EPA mileage test you would be getting 26mpg or more.

All you have to do is accelerate very very slowly and never, ever, exceed 55 mph.

The test was designed in the 70's when the 55mph speed limit was enacted and enforced.

To impress upon people how much money they could save and how much further they could go on the expensive gasoline that was rationed during the oil embargo.

Still same test.

Everyone drives 80 everywhere

20mpg at 80mph ain't too bad..

And auto stop start helps.

Thank you

 

[Aaron77]

Auto start / stop is disabled in sport (S) mode, and it'll drive and shift way better. I'll gladly take the marginal mpg hit to have an enjoyable driving experience.

Is sport mode not available in all models? I assumed it was standard

 

[Gizmokid2005]

Auto start / stop is disabled in sport (S) mode, and it'll drive and shift way better. I'll gladly take the marginal mpg hit to have an enjoyable driving experience.

Is sport mode not available in all models? I assumed it was standard

It's 100% standard in all models. Not everyone enjoys the experience, but it is correct that it disables ASS.

 

[tremorman]

Bret,

I'm considering this device. My understanding is that it does not interfere with the voltage or electronics in the Auto S/S system but is actually a bypass switch letting you set either option you choose from the console switch?

1. Do you know if it effects the warranty?
2. Will I need to use the panel removal kit (pic. below) that I got from Amazon?
3. Is the installation as easy as the video claims?
4. Doe's the panel under the steering wheel need to be removed as the review below from their site claims?

"This device is an excellent and totally functional solution to the auto stop/start non choice that has been inflicted upon Ranger buyers. It does the job in an effective and inconspicuous manner every time, all the time. The install instructions should be improved to merit a five star rating. Removal of the left side panel from the center cluster is not as described in the instructions. It requires the panel under the steering wheel to be popped loose and dropped down to remove the side panel. Without this step the side panel cannot be removed"

Thanks for your help,
Paul

Didn't look like you got your questions answered on this yet, not sure if you've bought it yet but I have this same device. It's absolutely perfect. I haven't even had to think about the autostop "feature" since I installed it the first week I bought my truck.

1. I'd say absolutely no chance, and if you were really worried about it you could just uninstall it very easily and the truck is back to stock and the dealer would never have any clue that you had it in there.

2. Nope. I watched a video on youtube that showed an easy way to pop the panel off, about 1 minute in below. I thought I was going to need a tool, but you just use leverage with one hand to kind of push back on the panel in one spot and then use your other hand to continue lifting it up and out.




3. Yes it took me about 5 minutes, but I also don't have super large hands and arms, I could see it being tougher if your arms/hands are bigger. Maneuvering the wiring under the panel is the only challenge as the space is tight in there but it's still very easy.

4. Nope.

 

[BOB RAD]

I think the reason my auto stop/start drives me crazy is because I live in Arizona and it’s always HOT, so the truck starts back up shortly after it shuts off because of the heat build up. Makes the whole thing nothing but annoying. Thinking of getting that eliminator thing. Anyone have a link to the you tube video that show how to remove the enter dash panel for easier access.

 

[tremorman]

I think the reason my auto stop/start drives me crazy is because I live in Arizona and it’s always HOT, so the truck starts back up shortly after it shuts off because of the heat build up. Makes the whole thing nothing but annoying. Thinking of getting that eliminator thing. Anyone have a link to the you tube video that show how to remove the enter dash panel for easier access.

Scroll up 1 post... It's as easy as the guy in the video makes it look.

 

[OrangeStreak]

Didn't look like you got your questions answered on this yet, not sure if you've bought it yet but I have this same device. It's absolutely perfect. I haven't even had to think about the autostop "feature" since I installed it the first week I bought my truck.

1. I'd say absolutely no chance, and if you were really worried about it you could just uninstall it very easily and the truck is back to stock and the dealer would never have any clue that you had it in there.

2. Nope. I watched a video on youtube that showed an easy way to pop the panel off, about 1 minute in below. I thought I was going to need a tool, but you just use leverage with one hand to kind of push back on the panel in one spot and then use your other hand to continue lifting it up and out.




3. Yes it took me about 5 minutes, but I also don't have super large hands and arms, I could see it being tougher if your arms/hands are bigger. Maneuvering the wiring under the panel is the only challenge as the space is tight in there but it's still very easy.

4. Nope.

Thanks for the response and information. Glad you like it. I installed mine today and posted my experience: What did you receive in the mail today for your Ranger? | Page 180 | 2019+ Ford Ranger and Raptor Forum (5th Generation) - Ranger5G.com

I just happened to come across the video you posted and it is the best I've seen on the installation. Tried to follow it but my hands are a tad big to work under that space so I had to follow the printed instructions on the seller's site to get the console panel high enough to do the job: 2019_Ford_Ranger_Installation_Instructions.v3.pdf (shopify.com)
Liking mine so far and it's working exactly as described

 

[Josebd]

OK I did this at the battery terminal and it worked. But I was having issues with a parasitic draw back then and they couldn't do a complete test on the vehicle. The idiot should've just plugged it back in and did that test but that's the dealership I'm working with. So I found a way to do it another way.
Take out the switch for the auto start stop and put a little jumper wire between the purple and the white purple with a stripe on it. This did not work for me at first so I paid $80 for the auto start stop eliminator switch.
It did not work at first either and then I emailed the company/guy he responded that it only works when you have the auto start stop engaged. So I engaged it and the switch has worked flawlessly.
I believe all as it is is a jumper wire inside this little connector that's built into the little harness that plugs between the switch and the factory harness.
With that being said, Have your jumper wire and it will take around a number 18 gauge I believe, to make it hold fast. Something like a doorbell wire which is a solid wire.
Once you make sure that wire fits, turn the truck on and disable the auto start stop and then plug the jumper wire in. It should work flawlessly. Let me know if you go this route. Remember it's the white wire with the purple stripe because there are two white wires there.

Just plug in a night light or anything that draws a current!

 

[BOB RAD]

I just plugged a two prong L.E.D night light into the 110V recentacle behind the center consul and it really does work. Not having to remember to push that little switch and having a nice seamless driving experience is way worth the tiny difference in mph. i did do a estimated cost savings and this is going to be the best $66.00 per year I ever spent.

 

[OrangeStreak]

I think the reason my auto stop/start drives me crazy is because I live in Arizona and it’s always HOT, so the truck starts back up shortly after it shuts off because of the heat build up. Makes the whole thing nothing but annoying. Thinking of getting that eliminator thing. Anyone have a link to the you tube video that show how to remove the enter dash panel for easier access.

Bob, I tried the video 1st but used these written instructions from the seller to get the console cover higher up so I could get my hands (too big) under it to attach the device.
2019_Ford_Ranger_Installation_Instructions.v3.pdf (shopify.com)

 

[HeavyDuty]

Just saw this and it appears to be the easiest, fastest, cheapest way - to get rid of Auto Start/Stop
Not sure if there is any down side to this, at all, "if" you don't like the Auto S/S
Clip it back in - and - you're back to stock.

I'm all ears if anyone has any knowledge of a problem doing this.

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