Approx how long do original pads last?

[Gizmokid2005]

Not my experience,....(perhaps it is just too subtle, or a matter defining terms)

There is no engine braking in drive unless it is in "tow haul".
Even coming down Monteagle, to attain engine braking you must shift into sport mode or Tow haul mode.
The owners manual only addresses the issue as it pertains to Tow Haul mode, the rest is observation. My truck is 2WD.
BTW, It is the same with the 6SPD in my TC (except it has no "Tow Haul " mode)


Here is a quote from the manual...
Tow Mode ...
To switch on tow mode, press
the button on the center console
until tow mode is active. The
indicator light illuminates in the instrument
cluster when the system becomes active.
The tow mode feature:
• Moves upshifts to higher engine speeds
to reduce the frequency of
transmission shifting.
• Provides engine braking in all forward
gears, which slows your vehicle and
assists you in controlling your vehicle
when descending a slope.
• Depending on driving conditions and
load conditions, may downshift the
transmission, slow your vehicle and
control your vehicle speed when
descending a hill, without pressing the
accelerator pedal. The amount of
downshift braking provided varies
based upon the amount you press the
brake pedal.
The tow mode feature improves
transmission operation when towing a
trailer or a heavy load. All transmission
gear ranges are available when using tow
mode.
To switch off the tow mode feature and
return to normal driving mode, press the
button on the center console twice. The
indicator light turns off when the system
turns off. Tow mode also turns off when
you power down your vehicl

Yes, tow/haul is intended to provide more engine braking, almost exclusively by downshifting. As I said, you have to hit your brakes or use cruise control in order for it to be noticed in Drive as typically it's designed to coast for optimum economy, not engage in engine braking.

To that effect, with the size and design of our 2.3L, the engine doesn't provide a lot of braking overall, and has to be in higher revs in order to do so, hence why downshifting is a primary factor in ensuring it's engaged (again why you need CC or active brake application to trigger it in drive).

As I said, it's not nearly as aggressive in drive, but it does happen once activated.

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[Blmpkn]

I'm coming up on 35k miles, little maintenance sticker In the window still indicates pads as "green". I'm not heavy on the brakes but the truck does do its fair share of heavy hauling without trailer brakes.

 

[Floyd]

Yes, tow/haul is intended to provide more engine braking, almost exclusively by downshifting. As I said, you have to hit your brakes or use cruise control in order for it to be noticed in Drive as typically it's designed to coast for optimum economy, not engage in engine braking.

To that effect, with the size and design of our 2.3L, the engine doesn't provide a lot of braking overall, and has to be in higher revs in order to do so, hence why downshifting is a primary factor in ensuring it's engaged (again why you need CC or active brake application to trigger it in drive).

As I said, it's not nearly as aggressive in drive, but it does happen once activated.

I can see that we won't agree on the terms or the facts of this question, so I will just continue to respectfully disagree with your assessment .
Mine does not engine brake in Drive, without Tow Haul engaged.
Downshifting adds a tangent and thus irrelevent assertion to the discussion.

While I like this feature, it took some getting used to, especially since I drove manual transmissions almost exclusively for many decades prior to this Ranger.
At first I found it annoying in traffic when simply lifting didn't adequately slow the rate at which I overtook traffic ahead. It is easy to compensate or just use the brakes once you get used to it.
There is a learning curve with these newer vehicles which includes braking, and handling, as well as transmission behavior.
Thanks for your input, there is always room to learn something more!

BTW My Cruise Control is old school ( not adaptive)

 

[scarchild35]

Following this.
Can anyone say with certainty if we get ceramic pads from the factory? I've heard we do but have no proof. If we do get ceramic pads they should last a long time. Unless you drive aggressively of course.

 

[Msfitoy]

Just passed 98K and probably can get 120K out of them...though I think I'll replace them at 110K before the pads get too thin...

I was right...going on 118K miles and my immortal pads still have around 8mm...all rotors smooth don't show any signs of wear...weird...

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Depends

 

[Msfitoy]

Depends

Depends

Hope no one here needs that...

 

[21rangerCactus]

I'm at 58k on stock pads. I don't tow or haul anything heavy. Lots of stop and go driving.

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Hope no one here needs that...

Google says to change them…

“before they get too damp. This action ensures that no leakage, no matter how minor, will occur.”​

Now, back to my Rusty Nail.

 

[23HRPXL]

My 98 Grand Marquis (non-ABS) was like all my previous vehicles to that, every other time I changed the front pads, I had to change the rears (pads or shoes). My last two vehicles, when I changed the brake pads ('13 Chrysler 200 at 52k and '16 Ram 1500 at 64k), I found the fronts and rears were worn evenly. Maybe the abs system and stability control?

 

[mgallo13]

52k and rotors were warped but pads were fine. 33's installed at 8k miles for a little more rotational wear and tear on the rotors/pads.

Upgraded rotors and ceramic pads just went on a few weeks ago - couldn't be happier.

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