2019 Heater Box failed. Getting rid of this truck.

[MagneticRanger]

Is this documented? I think mine was built july 7th 2020. So should i be able to go in now and get it replaced before it does go out…..

built ford tough haha

Here is the link to the reported issue from NHTSA

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...UQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3OWyXMs52Ge2Vn1BI_-QV4

It is my understanding the issue isn't repaired as a
request to preemptively avoid the issue...which I believe it should be if you fall within the years/dates listed....but only addressed if your experiencing issues AND is diagnosed as such with pulling of the error codes mentioned...but I guess YMMV on the dealership your working with... unfortunately for most it seems the issue crops up after the bumper to bumper warranty expires and has been lucky for a few with extended or still within factory warranty period.

I can't find where I read earlier though that it's possible if this issue keeps being reported since it's already at a SSM classification it potentially could be on the verge of becoming an actual recall regardless of warranty period as the heating/cooling/defrosting unit not functioning is legitimately a safety issue. I don't have solid info that will be the case however

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[shreddyloam]

Update the PCM, apply all TAB's if you haven't, check the fluid level in the tranny, sounds like it is way low.

When applying these TSBs out of warranty, this would all come out of pocket, no?

sounds like :

SSM 49264: 2019-2020 Ranger - Climate Control Temperature Will Not Adjust With Clicking/Snapping Noise From The Dash - Built On Or Before 30-Jul-2020

and

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
Vehicle Buck/Surge During Low Speed Operation And/Or Engine Runs Rough After Cold Start

 

[GitRDone]

Upon stopping I get a clunk coming forward, and then a clunk accelerating. Sometimes stopping downhill I get a BIG thud on downshifts, feels almost like somebody rear ended me. First 5 minutes of driving in the morning there is serious hard shifts and terrible throttle response. It’s like nothing nothing nothing BAM big hit of acceleration. Also the pre-collision goes off randomly like twice a week.

The trans can act a bit wonky in the first mile or two from cold start, but some driveline thumps have been solved by greasing the splines in the driveshaft carrier bearing.

 

[MagneticRanger]

When applying these TSBs out of warranty, this would all come out of pocket, no?

sounds like :

SSM 49264: 2019-2020 Ranger - Climate Control Temperature Will Not Adjust With Clicking/Snapping Noise From The Dash - Built On Or Before 30-Jul-2020

and

TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
Vehicle Buck/Surge During Low Speed Operation And/Or Engine Runs Rough After Cold Start

I believe so, again maybe depending on your relationship with your dealer of choice (+ how far your out of your warranty window) there may be some leeway here.

Have to keep in mind though TSB's are just bulletins and NOT recalls. They exist based upon the most commonly reported issues from owners as well as providing guidelines on servicing/correct the issue.

Its my understanding TSB's aren't done because they exist ..only if your having/report a matching issue and it's been diagnosed as being the issue in an existing TSB.

I think a good majority of times owners experience any of these symptoms so infrequently that although it may be an issue in which a TSB exists it happens so infrequently or never again they just carry on without second thought.

The answer to the nuts and bolts of your question is though....yes most likely after your warranty window is up if you take in for service and a TSB provides the solution to correct the issue your having it's out of pocket money.

In those 2 provided issues you quoted though...the heater box is under the bumper to bumper warranty...the driveline surge / rough start *may* be under the power train coverage.

 

[McLeadslinger]

Sounds like you got a lemon with all the other issues as well.

 

[db_tanker]

Remember that the Powertrain warranty is 5/60 - wouldn't this also include any and all TSB's relating to the Trans including the reflash needed on PCM's and such?

 

[Tracy Bowman]

I had to have my PCM replaced and it was covered under powertrain warranty.

 

[sandog]

OP, Sorry to hear about your Ranger issues. My 2019 had the battery go dead a few weeks ago at 23K, replaced under warranty. But otherwise it's been great.
Once the factory warranty expires, I have an extended warranty as well.
If you are planning on keeping the truck for years, the extended warranty makes sense, one $3700 repair bill would be bad enough, but imagine several.

The 2019's aren't really a first year production are they ? Being that Ford has been making these 5th Gen Rangers in other countries since 2011 ?

 

[JesseS]

Whenever I take my vehicle in to the dealer for anything I ask if there are any TSB's that are current that haven't been applied. If you ask they will tell you and do them, if you don't ask they will never get done unless there is a problem related to the TSB and you are still under warranty. You have 5/60 on the driveline so the tranny issue is covered. As for the heater box you are more than likely out of luck unless you have an extended warranty.

 

[Floyd]

I assume it has the climate control. Does anyone know if the HVAC in the XL/STX shares the same box?
Believe it or not they wanted $2400 to replace the blend door on the Climate control on my FIL's Continental nearly 25 years ago.
When people quit fixing their own cars, the manufacturers quit caring about repairability.

 

[kieefer]

Kinda curious of how your heater worked prior to failure?
I know venting to floor heat is pretty non-existent in my truck and my overall opinion of the ventilation system sucks compared to my 97.

 

[Floyd]

OP, Sorry to hear about your Ranger issues. My 2019 had the battery go dead a few weeks ago at 23K, replaced under warranty. But otherwise it's been great.
Once the factory warranty expires, I have an extended warranty as well.
If you are planning on keeping the truck for years, the extended warranty makes sense, one $3700 repair bill would be bad enough, but imagine several.

The 2019's aren't really a first year production are they ? Being that Ford has been making these 5th Gen Rangers in other countries since 2011 ?

So do you happen to know if that it is the same HVAC?

 

[Floyd]

With truck resale being so wild right now, I’ve had offers at $6k over what I paid for this thing, so I’d rather dump it and buy something else then deal with something that’s going to give me more problems. For me, these many manufacturing defects under 50k is a bad sign. The slop in the drive line doesnt give me much faith that this truck will go much farther than 100k miles.

So ... What are you going to buy?
A TOYOTA?

 

[MagneticRanger]

I assume it has the climate control. Does anyone know if the HVAC in the XL/STX shares the same box?
Believe it or not they wanted $2400 to replace the blend door on the Climate control on my FIL's Continental nearly 25 years ago.
When people quit fixing their own cars, the manufacturers quit caring about repairability.

If it's in the same year range of 2019/2020 built on or before July 30, 2022 I would have to say yes.

My replacement was done on my 2019 XLT (Scab) with 300a package which was manually controlled climate control. (This truck was base model...so probably not far off from what you would find in an XL/STX)

This issue isn't actually anything to do with theblend door itself....but moreso with a warping of the entire HVAC case which contains the blower motor/fan etc.

The warping may cause a sticking of the blend door from functioning (opening closing)...or cause undue stress on the actuator motor which also may lead to failure of the actuator motor so the blend door will not open or close either.

There are videos of individuals replacing the actuator which may or may not be a temporary fix.....but the reality is IF the HVAC casing has warped replacing the actuator would just be a temporary solution.

That's why it mentions in the SSM about this issue if the issue is diagnosed as such the entire box/casing is replaced to avoid repeated repairs eg. actuators over and over again.

I'd imagine a dual climate control system in a truck is the same HVAC box/casing amongst all others just with independently operated actuators for blend door operation....I could be totally wrong on that...I don't know enough about the HVAC system tbh

 

[dtech]

Although I have a Lariat if I had a choice I'd opt for manual climate controls, I've experienced issues with ACC in both of my 9-5 Saabs and other auto maskers have had issues with ACC .Like a good many other components in todays auto the size and the weight reductions have sometimes resulted in integrity issues.

A SSM bulletin is a long ways off from causing a NHTSA safety recall , I would advise out of warranty owners with issues to make sure they work with Ford in the hope of getting some financial assistance. Myself I do not believe in the value o x warranties.

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