Which is the best catch can

[les101ca]

I've seen several different threads on catch cans (Mishimoto, Ford, UPR, etc.) but is one really better, or worse, than the others? I haven't seen a thread that compares them. At least I know that with the orange clips on the hoses you do break them to get them off. I'm leaning towards the Ford version because it mounts up front which doesn't interfere, or require extra modifications, due to the relay box for the Tremor upfitter switches. Thanks in advance....

PS I've had my 2023 Lariat Tremor for 11 days now having driven it from Northern California to Central Texas. After reading the various forum topics there are too many good suggestions on how to spend any excess cash you have ;-)

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[Msfitoy]

Probably not necessary...at least in my case...112K miles and motor is smooth as day one...

 

[OFC Ranger]

None of them they are a snake oil product.

I'm still trying to figure out after all these years how people randomly decide they need this product for their vehicle.

Ask yourself this why does a Ford accessory Branch offer this for sale but it's not included from the factory? Because it's only design is to part your wallet with your money

 

[Dr3wDrop]

I like my UPR can.

 

[RedDakooter05]

Well since money is obviously not an issue for you, any of them will be the same.
They all basically mount the same with the exception of the ford one since it's for the driver side only.

I have a cheap unit from amazon, and I just used fuel lines and UPR connectors. $50 total. It works just about the same as the overpriced $300+ ones.


edit: Only times I catch stuff is when it's not terribly hot out; I don't get anything during summer. Being in texas, I don't see you really needing it.

 

[les101ca]

OFC Ranger I found a video you might enjoy. Its rather long but the guy is pretty good at walking you through the "catch can porn" as he calls it. Its a few years old but I think he kind of aligns me with your response. Thanks again.

The truth about oil catch cans: Should you fit one to your car? | Auto Expert John Cadogan - YouTube

 

[JohnnyO]

I'd get the Ford unit because it will be OE quality. After a couple years a lot of folks are complaining that the hoses are brittle and cracking on the aftermarket ones.

 

[The Last Ranger]

None of them they are a snake oil product.

I'm still trying to figure out after all these years how people randomly decide they need this product for their vehicle.

Ask yourself this why does a Ford accessory Branch offer this for sale but it's not included from the factory? Because it's only design is to part your wallet with your money

I believe Ford doesn't install on these new vehicles because not everyone would want to be bothered emptying it, not to mention its added cost . So ask yourself why would Ford make the product for our vehicles, Its because of the design of the ecoboost engines. They make them for mustangs and the F150 also. I do believe this and yes I have one on my Ranger and will empty soon when I do my iol change.

 

[OFC Ranger]

I believe Ford doesn't install on these new vehicles because not everyone would want to be bothered emptying it, not to mention its added cost . So ask yourself why would Ford make the product for our vehicles, Its because of the design of the ecoboost engines. They make them for mustangs and the F150 also. I do believe this and yes I have one on my Ranger and will empty soon when I do my iol change.

Of course they make them for other engines, why limit the pool of people who you can trick into giving you money?

Because of the design of the ecoboost engine? How does this even make logical sense? If it was required for the engine to function properly or longevity it would have been included in the design by the original engineers.

 

[Jacob]

Dang people are sucking down the haterade today.
So I’ve had mine since roughly month two with my truck. 98k miles and I dump my can every 2-3k miles depending on time of year. Winter it catches a ton of water.
everyone can have their opinions regarding them. At the end of the day, those that have them see what they catch and know “yay it’s in my can and not on my valves”

now I went with aftermarket. I’ve been happy with my mishimoto can. Install was a pain but it’s well made and easy to clean. Options weren’t as prevalent as they are now. Knowing ford makes one, I’d probably go with ford if I could do it again. ??

 

[The Last Ranger]

Of course they make them for other engines, why limit the pool of people who you can trick into giving you money?

Because of the design of the ecoboost engine? How does this even make logical sense? If it was required for the engine to function properly or longevity it would have been included in the design by the original engineers.

All I know is after reading a bunch of articles, removing water and other gunk from the engine is better than allowing it to cause issues with the turbo's and valves. I just choose to believe these devices help with engine care but its okay if you feel differently so you have the right not to purchase one.

 

[dtech]

If I'm not mistaken the product Ford sells is an oil separator and returns

OFC Ranger I found a video you might enjoy. Its rather long but the guy is pretty good at walking you through the "catch can porn" as he calls it. Its a few years old but I think he kind of aligns me with your response. Thanks again.

The truth about oil catch cans: Should you fit one to your car? | Auto Expert John Cadogan - YouTube

another garbage youtube video, oh I forgot when I put mine on to have a reputable installer do it and buy as he suggests "additional liability insurance." in case the catch can wrecks the engine, complete and baseless fud. Yes it's debatable how effective a catch can really is, but a number of mfg including Ford are using dual injection and one of the main reasons for doing so is to wash the intake valves, this clown or so called expert totally ignores this basic fact regards gdi engines and it is a fact that intake valve deposits generally build up more on gdi engines, true that issues owing to this aren't a pandemic . I think I prefer the Ford tech malupo or whatever his name is to this biased jackass.

 

[NotBudule]

Sport mode eliminates the need for a catch can , at least that's the theory I'm testing for the foreseeable future ...

 

[TJC]

Of course they make them for other engines, why limit the pool of people who you can trick into giving you money?

Because of the design of the ecoboost engine? How does this even make logical sense? If it was required for the engine to function properly or longevity it would have been included in the design by the original engineers.

Re: Because of the design of the ecoboost engine?
Yes! Direct Injection (Ecoboost included) engines of all brands leave carbon deposits on intake valves. That is a definable repeatable fact and all the major manufacturers know it.

Ford has been fighting this engineering issue for years, and basically gave up and added port injection back into the design for the V6 engines. I predict they will do the same for the 4 cylinder engines soon enough.

The real question - Does a catch can stop or slow the buildup? I can safely state that it does not make it worse and may very well make if better.

Re: "Ford States..." or "Ford Sells..."
Ford didn't include an accessible transmission dipstick. It is not even an option.

"It is not necessary. "The transmission fluid never needs to be changed. It will last the life of your transmission."​

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Believe the Ford statement above at your own peril.

You may or may not believe catch cans are necessary, but don't use Ford as the arbiter one way of the other. They are not a neutral third party. Their interests are not aligned with your interests.

"Ford states" holds about as much validity as "Ford sells". Ford will state and sell anything this side of a lawsuit in pursuit of profit.

Re: "I have this many miles and my engine runs smooth as butter"
Mileage is only one variable in the equation. Regular maintenance, Oil type, Gas type, Climate, Driving patterns, Trip length, and a lot more variables play into the carbon buildup growth rate. Some may never see the problem, esp if they don't keep vehicles long term. Others will be going in at 40K-60K miles for a walnut blasting.

 

[Rp930]

Re: Because of the design of the ecoboost engine?
Yes! Direct Injection (Ecoboost included) engines of all brands leave carbon deposits on intake valves. That is a definable repeatable fact and all the major manufacturers know it.

Ford has been fighting this engineering issue for years, and basically gave up and added port injection back into the design for the V6 engines. I predict they will do the same for the 4 cylinder engines soon enough.

The real question - Does a catch can stop or slow the buildup? I can safely state that it does not make it worse and may very well make if better.

Re: "Ford States..." or "Ford Sells..."
Ford didn't include an accessible transmission dipstick. It is not even an option.

"It is not necessary. "The transmission fluid never needs to be changed. It will last the life of your transmission."​

​

Believe the Ford statement above at your own peril.

You may or may not believe catch cans are necessary, but don't use Ford as the arbiter one way of the other. They are not a neutral third party. Their interests are not aligned with your interests.

"Ford states" holds about as much validity as "Ford sells". Ford will state and sell anything this side of a lawsuit in pursuit of profit.

Re: "I have this many miles and my engine runs smooth as butter"
Mileage is only one variable in the equation. Regular maintenance, Oil type, Gas type, Climate, Driving patterns, Trip length, and a lot more variables play into the carbon buildup growth rate. Some may never see the problem, esp if they don't keep vehicles long term. Others will be going in at 40K-60K miles for a walnut blasting.

Still haven’t seen proof it’s necessary on a Ranger. Haven’t seen any reported problems at 40-60K miles. Nothing.

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