Choose Your Own Adventure Book: Buying a Raptor

[OFC Ranger]

If not mistaken the 3.0 is based of the 2.7. I can't say if it's bigger bore or stroke, but I know it's the same group at the least. What I am curious about is if you do get it what will happen to the current Ranger?

But at end of the day a twin turbo > twin scroll turbo. It it's just an overall bigger base platform to start with and go from there.

As far as my current Ranger I've mentioned in another thread the primary goal is to sell it privately to the right kind of buyer the backup plan is to scavenge universal parts to move over or the backup plan to the backup plan is to drop it back to stock form and sell the parts individually.


Also at the end of the day $5,000 is not exactly wipe your ass money but it doesn't qualify as anything close to being a deal-breaker for me.

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[OFC Ranger]

I would expect not to pay it because it is a production vehicle, not a custom built luxury prerunner. The point of it is to be able to go to Ford, pick out the options, and pay the price of the vehicle. MSRP. What's the point of saying it starts at 58k if it doesn't really start at 58k? Lol

Because the honest truth of the matter that nobody wants to realize is that MSRP has a key magical word in it and until a Ford goes to direct sales the dealership can sell the product how they see fit for better or for worse.

Also the honest truth the very few people won't acknowledge is anger should be directed at Ford not the dealership.

I am all for being able to go online place an order and then simply pick it up without having to deal with all the smoke and mirrors.

But as one of my previous bosses once told me if you s*** in one hand and wish in the other see which one fills up first.

 

[Superdannyboy]

Because the honest truth of the matter that nobody wants to realize is that MSRP has a key magical word in it and until a Ford goes to direct sales the dealership can sell the product how they see fit for better or for worse.

Also the honest truth the very few people won't acknowledge is anger should be directed at Ford not the dealership.

I am all for being able to go online place an order and then simply pick it up without having to deal with all the smoke and mirrors.

But as one of my previous bosses once told me if you s*** in one hand and wish in the other see which one fills up first.

For sure it is a suggested price. Dealerships being franchises can sell it for more or less.

I was just saying that I wouldn't expect to pay more because I would expect to pay MSRP or less which is typically how it goes.

The ranger raptor is badass. Spend whatever you end up spending and have fun. The long travel suspension on my truck is day and night and you should enjoy that from the factory with all of the money your putting at it. Plus the 3.0 is sick and can get tuned way faster than the 2.3 without getting a custom closed deck short block.

I got my truck for 24k in 2019 and put 20k into it so far so I'm not judging you.

Can you explain why the anger should go to Ford and not the dealership? Ford gives the MSRP, but the dealer is the one that marks it up right? What am I missing? I also know that some dealers don't mark up so there's that as well.

 

[OFC Ranger]

For sure it is a suggested price. Dealerships being franchises can sell it for more or less.

I was just saying that I wouldn't expect to pay more because I would expect to pay MSRP or less which is typically how it goes.

The ranger raptor is badass. Spend whatever you end up spending and have fun. The long travel suspension on my truck is day and night and you should enjoy that from the factory with all of the money your putting at it. Plus the 3.0 is sick and can get tuned way faster than the 2.3 without getting a custom closed deck short block.

I got my truck for 24k in 2019 and put 20k into it so far so I'm not judging you.

Can you explain why the anger should go to Ford and not the dealership? Ford gives the MSRP, but the dealer is the one that marks it up right? What am I missing? I also know that some dealers don't mark up so there's that as well.

Because Ford at any time can decide you know what we're not doing it this way anymore and if you want to be part of the new way of doing it then get on board. On the ladder Ford is the top rung. They more or less bare responsibility on some levels ranging from great to minuscule on everything that occurs on the rungs going down

 

[Big Blue]

Well my ego wants a v6 twin turbo. Point me to another ranger with that engine I am all ears.

You just said it, so pay for it. It's your money, hope it makes you happy.

I just stated the real reasons.

 

[Joeiconic]

It’s discouraging that dealers are already anticipating that Ford will be unable to meet the initial demand for the Raptor. Hopefully we can eventually get back to a marketplace where vehicles are readily available to order.

 

[Superdannyboy]

It’s discouraging that dealers are already anticipating that Ford will be unable to meet the initial demand for the Raptor. Hopefully we can eventually get back to a marketplace where vehicles are readily available to order.

I know it's a production vehicle by Ford. Should be producing them like McDonald's sausage biscuits.

They need to hire me to get that plant going. If only it was in the DFW area.

 

[Frenchy]

I know it's a production vehicle by Ford. Should be producing them like McDonald's sausage biscuits.

They need to hire me to get that plant going. If only it was in the DFW area.

The problem comes down to Ford wanting to put the fanciest features on the base model vehicles and releasing new models for eash vehicle. Because of this Ford has it the worst for the chip shortage. When I was at the Nissan Dealer that isn't doing the BS markup I was informed they are only having issues with 3 vehicles. Two were performance specialty vehicles Wich was expected. The other was the versa Wich was a surprise. Everything else isn't a problem.

 

[Jason B]

Id pay it , and maybe more if i really wanted it , its rare , bad ass , everybody wants one whether they admit it or not , so why would one expect NOT to pay above and beyond ? Id just hate to see some rich kids daddy get it for him to do mall burnouts , which is usually how these end up ...

Just because someone else may buy it, doesn't compel me to buy it with ADM. Hell, I wouldn't pay MSRP if I won the $200 million lotto. I'd get it from Granger at 3% under invoice.

Because Ford at any time can decide you know what we're not doing it this way anymore and if you want to be part of the new way of doing it then get on board. On the ladder Ford is the top rung. They more or less bare responsibility on some levels ranging from great to minuscule on everything that occurs on the rungs going down

Ford doesn't really care about ADM. They just want the trucks sold. And if some sucker is willing to pay $5K to $10K ADM, so be it. It sure didn't hinder Bronco sales, won't hurt Raptor sales either.

 

[D Fresh]

Because Ford at any time can decide you know what we're not doing it this way anymore and if you want to be part of the new way of doing it then get on board. On the ladder Ford is the top rung. They more or less bare responsibility on some levels ranging from great to minuscule on everything that occurs on the rungs going down

I'm pretty sure that due to legal agreements and the fact that Ford cannot sell direct to the public their hands are tied.

As much as Ford would like to end ADMs, or as much as they say publicly, they really have no control over it.

Jack, did you even bother asking about X-plan?

 

[D Fresh]

Ford doesn't really care about ADM. They just want the trucks sold. And if some sucker is willing to pay $5K to $10K ADM, so be it. It sure didn't hinder Bronco sales, won't hurt Raptor sales either.

That's not what they're saying publicly.

https://fordauthority.com/2022/06/f...s-100-percent-digital-sales-fixed-prices/amp/

 

[JimJa]

I have no sway with anyone that pays ADM for any vehicle, but I do not understand why someone wanting a vehicle which costs tens of thousands of dollars will not do research to find a dealer that does not mark up their vehicles. And we are typically talking thousands of dollars. For example, San Diego's largest dealer marked up the initial F-150 Raptor $25K. The Focus RS was $7.5K. That's nuts. Suspect the new Ranger Raptor will see $10-$15K mark ups, minimum.

My dealer is in a town of 2,200 people and does not mark up. At my recommendation, my neighbor in WY bought a new Maverick Tremor from my dealer as soon as the order book was open. He received it in about 2 1/2 months. When I asked his wife about the buying experience she said, "If we EVER buy another new vehicle it will be with them. It was the best buying experience I've ever had."

It works like this. You call the dealer go over what you want. He emails to you the order copy he will send to Ford so you are assured the order is exactly what you want. You give the okay (or make changes) and the order is made. Depending on the dealer, he may or may not want a down payment. When the vehicle comes in you are notified and fly/drive out and pick it up. You are issued a temporary travel tag. Sales tax and registration/plate fee is paid in your state when registered. Come with financing or work with the money guy at the dealer. Painless.

 

[OneMore]

And normally I would not either however things change a bit when you get into scarce limited run models and current market conditions. I am under no delusion ADM is nothing more than a ticket to enter early.

I think you have the correct mindset trying to make a deal for the new 2024 Ranger Raptor. You set your goal, the dealer initially met that goal. Now comes the 2nd part. Getting them to honor what you were first told.
Paying 5k over on a very limited availability vehicle is within reason.
Is paying 5k more going to change your life style? Not likely. Will the kids not be able to attend collage? Not likely. Will you go hungry at night because you paid an extra 5k? Not likely.
But, you will have the truck you want. Life is very short and fleeting. Enjoy it while you can.

 

[NotBudule]

If it ever comes in a SuperCab , well , the devil all ready has me on hold , but whatever it would take...

 

[philanderer]

i remember seeing these on the lot with ADM'S. im sure there were people at the time that didnt mind paying it.

i drove one as a rental years ago when my 4g ranger was in the body shop. what a pos

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