Borne Off-Road Snorkel R&D Thread

[Frenchy]

I'm no engineer, just a milkman, but it seems pretty simple to do.

I would think one could hook powerful vacuum source to the inlet, and measure flow with a MAF.

When you think about it there's probably still more than what you think goes into it for the fact that you have more than just float to look at. You also have to make sure the things going to last. Also with you lovely coronavirus that everyone's been dealing with there have probably been delays in the shop

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[D Fresh]

When you think about it there's probably still more than what you think goes into it for the fact that you have more than just float to look at. You also have to make sure the things going to last. Also with you lovely coronavirus that everyone's been dealing with there have probably been delays in the shop

For sure. As one who gave up waiting for a Bronco I understand that bringing a new product to market in this day and age is difficult to say the least.

Just trying to say that testing flow should be simple enough.

 

[Mishimoto]

Hey Guys,

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you on this question!

It's both simple and a little more complex. @D Fresh isn't wrong about hooking it up to a vacuum source to check the flow, we have a flow bench which we use to do this all of the time. The wrench in our gears at the moment is that the bench testing is great for comparing something like OEM components to our design, but in this application, the results may be skewed. So, to ensure we're getting an accurate read on what this snorkel does when installed is we plan on recording flow/pressure readings during a dyno test. Essentially just making the EcoBoost our vacuum source.

Now for the final wrench in the gears, we're still waiting on a viable production sample to test with. Once our next set of samples arrives, we'll be able to dig more into the flow and pressure data of this snorkel, and we're just as eager as you guys are, promise!

I'll keep you guys posted!

-Nick

 

[TommyAtomic]

Wow. Its hard to complain about them wanting to give accurate numbers.

Actually its quite easy but you sound really stupid like: "Please feed us wildly inaccurate performance numbers that lack any meaningful context."

I'm curious about the snorkel but I'm willing to wait for accurate contextual info.

Regardless, thanks for the update Nick!

 

[Mishimoto]

Hey Guys!

Just wanted to bump this up and let you know that we're still plugging away at this project!

We had a few kinks to work out, but we have our latest sample in the shop, so that means more detailed updates coming soon!

-Nick

 

[Frenchy]

Hey Guys!

Just wanted to bump this up and let you know that we're still plugging away at this project!

We had a few kinks to work out, but we have our latest sample in the shop, so that means more detailed updates coming soon!

-Nick

Hurry up and take our MONEY!!!!

 

[103]

Any chance they will be shipping before November? I am supposed to be doing the High Water Mark Trail again in November. I really want a snorkel that doesn’t require me to cut a huge hole in my fender (at least on the outside).

 

[Mishimoto]

Any chance they will be shipping before November? I am supposed to be doing the High Water Mark Trail again in November. I really want a snorkel that doesn’t require me to cut a huge hole in my fender (at least on the outside).

Right now we're on track to get them out to you guys before then!

-Nick

 

[futat2]

I will be waiting for one......

 

[Brostang]

@Mishimoto you guys should make an option for a "ram air" style scoop that could connect to the engine bay duct. Basically keep the green portion of the cad model, and replace the orange snorkel section with a scoop just on the fender. It would be a nice option for the street truck guys that want the extra air inlet without the off-road styling of a full on snorkel.

 

[Frenchy]

@Mishimoto you guys should make an option for a "ram air" style scoop that could connect to the engine bay duct. Basically keep the green portion of the cad model, and replace the orange snorkel section with a scoop just on the fender. It would be a nice option for the street truck guys that want the extra air inlet without the off-road styling of a full on snorkel.

That would be the benefit of the velocitec(or however it is spelled) intake. It simply creates a forced air intake without any cutting or major modifications!! If I wasnt an OffRoader inwould go that route but water crossings pose a problem

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

Hey Guys!

Sorry for leaving you hanging on the next update! For those who follow our blog, you might have already caught wind of our design plans, but for those who don't, here it is!

To find out more about the design, and everything that we're cooking up for our Ranger Snorkel, make sure that you head over to our Engineering Blog to read up!

As always, feel free to shoot over any questions that you might have!

-Nick

Hey Nick, don't take this the wrong way, but that's a nice looking unit ya got there! lol

I love me some snorkel on an off-roader.

 

[Brostang]

@Frenchy The thing about the Velossa is that it's not increasing the inlet area of the airbox. The box itself still draws air through a small hole. Not saying it wouldn't help, but you cant legally drive at speeds that would create a true ram air effect. The snokel inner duct would be more than doubling the airbox inlet area, and really let the turbo breathe. I just referred to "ram air" to help conceptualize a scoop vs the snorkel, but the intake tract never be pressurized with the turbo impeller gulping air

 

[Frenchy]

@Frenchy The thing about the Velossa is that it's not increasing the inlet area of the airbox. The box itself still draws air through a small hole. Not saying it wouldn't help, but you cant legally drive at speeds that would create a true ram air effect. The snokel inner duct would be more than doubling the airbox inlet area, and really let the turbo breathe. I just referred to "ram air" to help conceptualize a scoop vs the snorkel, but the intake tract never be pressurized with the turbo impeller gulping air

If you are keeping the stock airbox or going with an a f e or something like that then I can understand what you're talking about. If you're one who's considering getting the mishimoto intake already then it would actually be beneficial to have the velocitek because you already have a bigger opening on the box. What you're saying isn't wrong. Just understanding that what you're looking for might not happen

 

[Nopalito]

Nick,
Are you designing your intake to work with the stock air box or will it work with other boxes?

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