Tim H.
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please....wheres this 5000mile recommendation.....
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A Hyundai dealer here once refused to address our transmission problem because they claimed New England was extreme conditions. I took it to an independent shop, turns out it wasn't even transmission fluid in it. A call to the Hyundai number got me an apology and a lifetime warranty on the transmission. Not that it mattered, the HVAC system crapped out at 100k miles and the cost was more than the vehicle was worth.
Very helpful and just validates what I have been doing in the desert over 20 years on any vehicle. Folks in MN on the other end of the spectrum same deal. This is just common sense. To each their own, no judgement, but at least you found documentation for those reluctant to take a deeper dive into the good book.
"When to expect the OIL CHANGE REQUIRED message"
My general understanding is that the monitors can take into account information that's available to the vehicle's computer, like engine revolutions, temperatures, etc. In a lot of cases it ends up acting like a timer because much to everyone's chagrin, most people aren't "extreme" users even though everyone wants to be above average. I'm aware that some folks speculate that it's nothing but a timer in order to rationalize their voodoo maintenance schedule. Again, people can certainly do whatever they want, but if their rationale is a belief that ford doesn't know what it's doing and its engineers are incompetent and/or lying, then it doesn't make much sense in my mind for them to buy a ford.doesnt that indicate that the sensor system has some tech behind it and does more than just count the days as some have eluded to in past posts
Correct, thanks for reading."When to expect the OIL CHANGE REQUIRED message"
Did you look at what constitutes severe usage according to Ford?again, I'm not disputing that there is schedules for severe and extreme usage.
the thread was started based on a 5000mile normal use criteria.
TJ, did you get this out of the manual?
Yes...under “Scheduled Maintenance” then “Normal Maintenance”TJ, did you get this out of the manual?
Thanks. The 2019 Owners Manual presents the information in a different manner, not a singular chart.Yes...under “Scheduled Maintenance” then “Normal Maintenance”
100% Correct my friend , I;m a qualified diesel mechanic of 35 years, the long haul trucks my employer has are changed every 20,000 as recommended and survive with engines untouched for the 650,000 when they are replaced with new rigs.As an engineer, who has set a handful of maintenance schedules on products I create and work on, I disagree with your claim based purely on my professional experience. I tend to trust the recommended maintenance schedule on pretty much anything. They designed the product, so they know the best about what needs to be done when and how often. They've done the exhaustive testing and know what's best. Ford wouldn't publish a schedule that would damage or not meet the regulations and requirements for the vehicle. No ethical engineer would allow numbers to be published which would put the user at risk.
In the end, it's your truck and you can ultimately do what you want. Change everything every 1000 miles if you want. It's your time and money. But as an engineer, I'm perfectly comfortable just following the published maintenance schedule in the manual, online, and what the truck tells me needs to be done.
My 2020 Ford Ranger manual does not have that page under the scheduled maintenance section.