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The reason they dont have anything for E85 is due to the fact the truck does not have the capability from the factory to run it safely.
Only because it isn’t tuned for flex fuel. The hpfp is the same as on the f150 which is flex fuel. With a tune it’s 100% safe.

they don’t have anything for it because they don’t have the demand and aren’t pushing it like other tuners.
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Only because it isn’t tuned for flex fuel. The hpfp is the same as on the f150 which is flex fuel. With a tune it’s 100% safe.

they don’t have anything for it because they don’t have the demand and aren’t pushing it like other tuners.
You are wrong sir. The HPFP is not the same between the Ranger amd F-150. For one they have differnt engine options. With that said they are going to have differnt operating ranges. The output will be different. Livernois has also shown that for the EcoBoost without the Flex Fuel does not have adequate fuel supply for E85.
 

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You are wrong sir. The HPFP is not the same between the Ranger amd F-150. For one they have differnt engine options. With that said they are going to have differnt operating ranges. The output will be different. Livernois has also shown that for the EcoBoost without the Flex Fuel does not have adequate fuel supply for E85.
You are wrong sir. The HPFP is not the same between the Ranger amd F-150. For one they have differnt engine options. With that said they are going to have differnt operating ranges. The output will be different. Livernois has also shown that for the EcoBoost without the Flex Fuel does not have adequate fuel supply for E85.
Different models, but realistically the same pump. And the ranger hpfp is actually better that the flex fuel pumps on the f150s considering it can sit at 250 bar. Even my xdi evo hpfp is 240 bar and that thing is 1800 out the door. The ranger has more than enough fuel supply for e85.
 

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Different models, but realistically the same pump. And the ranger hpfp is actually better that the flex fuel pumps on the f150s considering it can sit at 250 bar. Even my xdi evo hpfp is 240 bar and that thing is 1800 out the door. The ranger has more than enough fuel supply for e85.
Perhaps you dont understand fuel pumps very well. This rule goes for both mechanical and electric fuel pumps. The higher the pressure the lower the flow. The higher the flow the lower the pressure. Most of the time the factory fuel pumps do not have the adequate flow with high pressure for certain fuel and/or power. This has already been proven for EcoBoost HPFP with non flex fuel.

I'm sure @P. A. Schilke could help with this since he knows a bit more than most of us.
 

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Different models, but realistically the same pump. And the ranger hpfp is actually better that the flex fuel pumps on the f150s considering it can sit at 250 bar. Even my xdi evo hpfp is 240 bar and that thing is 1800 out the door. The ranger has more than enough fuel supply for e85.
Here is a link to Livernois for the HPFP on Primium fuel only on the Mustang 2.3 EcoBoost.
https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP501115
 


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The reason they dont have anything for E85 is due to the fact the truck does not have the capability from the factory to run it safely.
Does every thread on tunes need to devolve into an argument about E85 between the same two people?? Don't you have enough threads already? Not everyone want to or is interested in running E85.
 

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Perhaps you dont understand fuel pumps very well. This rule goes for both mechanical and electric fuel pumps. The higher the pressure the lower the flow. The higher the flow the lower the pressure. Most of the time the factory fuel pumps do not have the adequate flow with high pressure for certain fuel and/or power. This has already been proven for EcoBoost HPFP with non flex fuel.

I'm sure @P. A. Schilke could help with this since he knows a bit more than most of us.
Ranger hpfp is a better option than f150 flex fuel hpfp. F150 can handle e85. Ranger hpfp can handle e85. Note in the pictures the stock hpfp at 250 bar on the ranger and 207 bar on the flex fuel f150.

stock injectors pretty much get maxed out from tune and e85. Want bigger injectors? You’ll need the upgraded hpfp.

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Does every thread on tunes need to devolve into an argument about E85 between the same two people?? Don't you have enough threads already? Not everyone want to or is interested in running E85.
Well... to be fair... we’re on the 100th thread now..

in this performance section there’s a lot of people wanting to make more power. If everyone knew our trucks could handle e85 no problem people can benefit. If people keep pretending our hpfp’ are junk then people can’t benefit. And a civil discussion is not an argument.
 

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Well... to be fair... we’re on the 100th thread now..

in this performance section there’s a lot of people wanting to make more power. If everyone knew our trucks could handle e85 no problem people can benefit. If people keep pretending our hpfp’ are junk then people can’t benefit. And a civil discussion is not an argument.
My question was! Why does EVERY tune thread have to eventually move to a E85 "discussion"? The original question had nothing to do with E85 or the trucks capability to run it until YOU mentioned it. Not everyone doing a tune is interested in turning their truck into a fire breathing beast. Keep the E85 "discussions" to the performance threads where people care.
 

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My question was! Why does EVERY tune thread have to eventually move to a E85 "discussion"? The original question had nothing to do with E85 or the trucks capability to run it until YOU mentioned it. Not everyone doing a tune is interested in turning their truck into a fire breathing beast. Keep the E85 "discussions" to the performance threads where people care.
All I said was I loved livernois until moving to e85 so had to switch. And someone else chimed in.

someone who was thinking e85 could have seen my comment and realized not to go with livernois. And also.. this is a performance thread... now stop crying and move along. What nobody actually cares about is what you’re crying about.
 

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Ford Performance tune “package”, including K&N hi flow air filter, currently on sale for $743.00. (Dealer or other SAE-certified tech install still required for 3yr/36K warranty): Anyone know what 5-Star or Livernois are going for?
I put this tune on mine it works great smooth out the transmission shifts. Gets great mileage and I hand calculate it all the time 18 to 19 in town 20 to 24 on hiway with 285/70R17’s. Noticeable power of difference when you get on it or in sport mode if you drive normal don’t even know any difference.
 

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All I said was I loved livernois until moving to e85 so had to switch. And someone else chimed in.

someone who was thinking e85 could have seen my comment and realized not to go with livernois. And also.. this is a performance thread... now stop crying and move along. What nobody actually cares about is what you’re crying about.
You and your followers are the ones who invaded a none performance related thread. Yes your original post was benign but the result turned cancerous as the E85 discussion always seems to. Not pointing at you directly, but you always seem to be in the middle of it. Maybe it's just your followers the come along with you.

One more thread to cross off my list.
 

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You and your followers are the ones who invaded a none performance related thread. Yes your original post was benign but the result turned cancerous as the E85 discussion always seems to. Not pointing at you directly, but you always seem to be in the middle of it. Maybe it's just your followers the come along with you.

One more thread to cross off my list.
How is tuning a non performance related thread? How is e85 non performance related? How does e85 not pertain to tuning and performance? Am in control of how someone responds to me? Is your crying performance related? You sound like a baby right now.

there is over 10 tuning threads in the 3 most recent pages. And 1 on e85? You’d fit in better in the exterior mods section talking about dampers.
 

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How is tuning a non performance related thread? How is e85 non performance related? How does e85 not pertain to tuning and performance? Am in control of how someone responds to me? Is your crying performance related? You sound like a baby right now.

there is over 10 tuning threads in the 3 most recent pages. And 1 on e85? You’d fit in better in the exterior mods section talking about dampers.
Nice troll trying to use dampers as a deflect, but everyone except a few know it's all fun...:wink:
 
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Nice troll trying use dampers as a deflect, but everyone except a few know it's all fun...:wink:
Way to use dampers as a way to deflect everything else I said in the comment.. this went from a performance post to people acting like children post. Congrats.

of course it’s the guy with 4 damper threads coming to rescue though ?
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