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FYI...Tuned by Unleashed since about 5,000 miles on my 2019 Lariat. Now have 66,000 trouble free miles on it. Well the HVAC blend door brokw but no engine or transmission issues.
Thats fair, but the more I read on here the more it seems like not so much of an "if" as it is a "when"... thats whats frustrating...
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Thats fair, but the more I read on here the more it seems like not so much of an "if" as it is a "when"... thats whats frustrating...
Again, this forum most likley represents less than 5% of all Ranger owners....probably less than that. And what percentage of those on here are having transmission issues?

But you do what you feel is best for you.
 

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All this has me thinking I might avoid a tune on mine since i did get the extended warranty, despite the sales guy saying that a tune shouldn't effect things (yeah right). I love my truck but its really frustrating knowing that the transmission is the weakest link... I might consider trading mine in next year to get something that I don't have to stress about... Annoyingly that might be a Toyota given the prices of F-150's are just freaking stupid these days... But who knows, I might just accept that a built transmission might be in my future too.
I was kind of thinking the same about the tune. Now that I have just over 5,000 miles on it and it's really shifting great, way better than my '19 was. But there are a few times I wished I'd had it tuned. Going up large hills it seems to take a while to finally downshift unless you really lay your foot into it, tuned it seems to be much smoother. I think this and when you're passing someone that extra hp/tq really comes in handy.

FYI...Tuned by Unleashed since about 5,000 miles on my 2019 Lariat. Now have 66,000 trouble free miles on it. Well the HVAC blend door brokw but no engine or transmission issues.
My '19 had 32,000 flawless miles on it (besides the havoc issue too) tuned with the Livernois 91-93 performance tune. I never even had any of the "bucking & surging" issues either but I did but the part just to have it on hand.
 

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All this has me thinking I might avoid a tune on mine since i did get the extended warranty, despite the sales guy saying that a tune shouldn't effect things (yeah right).
There's a good case to be made that a tune will make a transmission last longer due to the firmer shifts.
 

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My '19 had 32,000 flawless miles on it (besides the havoc issue too) tuned with the Livernois 91-93 performance tune. I never even had any of the "bucking & surging" issues either but I did but the part just to have it on hand.
I haven't really had any issues that weren't related to the crap transmission tuning... i've had it lug the engine in waaay too high of a gear in town at like 20, and thats when i've had it buck on me. But that was a one off...
 


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Again, this forum most likley represents less than 5% of all Ranger owners....probably less than that. And what percentage of those on here are having transmission issues?

But you do what you feel is best for you.
You're certainly not wrong there, and I may get over it in a day or so. We'll just see how things go
 

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So.......Add me to the list of transmission failures. I just had mine replaced.

Here are the details or lack of details from Ford.

Milage - 63k. Just 3k over the warranty.

Total Cost - $7,838.26. Ford kicked in with a 60/40 split. Ford paid $4,702.96. I paid $3,135.30.
Why not cover 100% of the cost? I don't know. Why cover any portion of the cost if not covering 100%? I don't know. My guess is that this is Ford acknowledging that there is a problem with the 1080R but not wanting to take full responsibility. Either way I am happy that they chipped in a considerable amount and that I did not have to take on the full financial burden.

Time frame for replacement - Almost 10 WEEKS!!!!!
On April 11th I took my Ranger in to Colley Ford in San Dimas, CA for a diagnostic. I finally picked up my Ranger on June 16th. I cannot understand all the reasons as to why it took so long. 2.5 months is a long time to be without a truck that you're still paying for. On top of that, my registration was due in May. The service tech did communicate via text and voice so that was comforting. Most of the time I had no idea what the status with my truck was.

Warranty - 3 years and unlimited miles. Lame. Does Ford really have so little confidence in this transmission?

Symptoms before replacement - Surging, bucking, and slipping. I tried fixing by replacing that sensor that is recommended on the other threads. It did nothing for me.

Diagnostic - The scope was changed a few different times by Ford. They wanted the dealers initial assessment, then they wanted what essentially consisted of a complete tear down of the transmission but in different phases. They couldn't have just asked for a complete tear down up front to save us all time. Instead they needed various tests run with screenshots and estimates. The approval process is what took the longest.

My Take - Hopefully this helps someone on here understand what to expect if they are out of warranty and experience a transmission failure. I bought mine used with 6k miles on it. I highly suggest the extended warranty for these vehicles. At this point I am reluctant to buy another Ford. I realize that all manufactures have their issues but transmission problems are a big one. I would love a full size truck in the future but I am not all that confident in sticking with Ford.
Drew, check out my post on my recent '19 rebuild. Apparently, there was a recent TSB initiated for the failed part causing my issues. Dont know if any of this helps with your situation. I believe it's this one: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10236680-0001.pdf

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/transmission-repair-work-order.25518/#post-586127
 
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How in the world did you get Ford to cover part of the cost when you were out of warranty???!!! Wish I had that luck...
No idea! The dealer offered to file a claim stating that they may kick in a portion of the cost or all of it. I do feel rather blessed. But at the same time annoyed that it went out in the first place
 
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@DrewKD88 just out of curiosity. Were there any fluid services done before it let go?
None. I called a dealer asking if I could take it in to have the transmission flushed and they said no. The guy would not let me bring it in. He said that it wasn't needed and they were too bust to take me in anyway. Crazy huh!
 
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I think the Drew's quote is a bit high at $7.8K...I had a new transmission installed, radiator + brake line flushed and my total came in at just under $6K tax included...granted, I wouldn't mind that huge discount...mine took one week...
Yes, it is high. I think it's the "California" tax. Just more $$$ for all things California
 
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Question for the OP, did the dealer tell you what specifically went bad with the transmission? Some of the past cases seemed to be the CDF drum. If that's the case for all these failures, there's no amount of preventative maintenance or TSB that's going to prevent the issue from occuring, only luck.
Nope, they said tranny parts were bad. metal in fluid = bad tranny. I think that's why they had to do a complete tear down.
 

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Drew, check out my post on my recent '19 rebuild. Apparently, there was a recent TSB initiated for the failed part causing my issues. Dont know if any of this helps with your situation. I believe it's this one: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2023/MC-10236680-0001.pdf

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/transmission-repair-work-order.25518/#post-586127
The CDF cylinder list of potential failed parts fits with videos I've seen of teardowns where the 10R80 has failed. Looks like Ford will be on the hook for a lot of transmission repairs as the TSBS covers a lot of models.
 

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None. I called a dealer asking if I could take it in to have the transmission flushed and they said no. The guy would not let me bring it in. He said that it wasn't needed and they were too bust to take me in anyway. Crazy huh!
Yea, I think they're gonna get bitten in the ass with this 150k fluid change. Especially people with extended warranties.
 

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The CDF cylinder list of potential failed parts fits with videos I've seen of teardowns where the 10R80 has failed. Looks like Ford will be on the hook for a lot of transmission repairs as the TSBS covers a lot of models.
I'm certainly thinking of taking mine in to see what they'll do if anything now that there is a TSB. Will have to unflash my Livernois tune first though. Mine has a big delay on the 3-4 shift when cold, and sometimes it will randomly hang between gears. It's got a year to come apart if it's going to go since that's when the power train warranty ends.
 

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Yea, I think they're gonna get bitten in the ass with this 150k fluid change. Especially people with extended warranties.
It really depends on how these units are actually failing. I can think of 2 possible failure modes here.

#1. Fluid gets dirty leading to slow response of the system pressure regulator valve. Loss of pressure control causes pressure spikes and abnormal wear on clutches and internal parts which turns in to the reported shredded bits inside the transmission.

#2. CDF drum failure documented by the YouTubers where the CDF drum fails and lets pressure go where it's not supposed to and, same as number 1, broken parts in the transmission.

For case #1, changing the fluid more often could definitely help. For case #2, I don't think it would make a difference.
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