I'm getting my transmission rebuilt or replaced

[gwhalin]

I'm not awake yet.....The lumped together part went over my head. ?

Give it time. I am sure fuel in oil is a symptom of a shit transmission. Right?

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[AzScorpion]

Give it time. I am sure fuel in oil is a symptom of a shit transmission. Right?

Possibly. I'm not saying some don't have legitimate concerns it's just some seem like all out paranoia. IDK I just drive mine and take care of it the best I can. I added the extended warranty right as the 3/36 was about to expire just for added peace of mind. If something happens it happens there's nothing anyone can do. There is nothing out there in todays world that is 100% perfect. Except my dampers of course. ?

 

[IdahoRanger]

How do you keep snow out of the radiator? Asking for a friend.

 

[gwhalin]

Possibly. I'm not saying some don't have legitimate concerns it's just some seem like all out paranoia. IDK I just drive mine and take care of it the best I can. I added the extended warranty right as the 3/36 was about to expire just for added peace of mind. If something happens it happens there's nothing anyone can do. There is nothing out there in todays world that is 100% perfect. Except my dampers of course. ?

I have modded mine so much I can't imagine any warranty is going to cover anything on it. ?‍

 

[dtech]

change that tranny fluid every 12k , nearly as often as recommended oil change . I don't believe they forgot a zero in the article or are confusing an extended engine oil interval.

I wonder if I need to change mine 3x now to remediate missing that 12k interval.

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/causes-automatic-transmission-failure-7-ways-destroy-transmission/

 

[AzScorpion]

How do you keep snow out of the radiator? Asking for a friend.

Easy Steve, move to AZ. ?

 

[Bob902]

change that tranny fluid every 12k , nearly as often as recommended oil change . I don't believe they forgot a zero in the article or are confusing an extended engine oil interval.

I wonder if I need to change mine 3x now to remediate missing that 12k interval.

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/causes-automatic-transmission-failure-7-ways-destroy-transmission/

Seems like a lot of fluid changes. Based on that, I am getting ready for my third change.

 

[dtech]

Seems like a lot of fluid changes. Based on that, I am getting ready for my third change.

I always suspect authors of some of these articles are getting kickbacks, in this case from the mercon makers, with the BMS designers, the battery makers, the tailgate designer.....well some things best left unsaid.

 

[TJC]

What about the fuel in the oil thread. How many are now obsessed with this and how many ran out to smell theirs? I'm not saying "some" have a right to be concerned but you'd think our gas tanks are leaking into the engine bay by some of the posts.

I thought they were crazy too.... until just last week when I checked my oil prior to leaving on a 500 miles trip and my oil level was a 1/2" above the full mark on the dipstick. Now mind you I don't check it often, usually before a long trip or right before and after an oil change. Anyway I took the trip and arrived back home, and first thing in the AM I checked the oil level.... and guess what! it had dropped back down to just a 1/16" over the full mark! Truck was parked in the same location in the garage... and oil was checked after the truck sat all night.

I have a UPR catch can installed on the truck, and had emptied it out when I checked the oil prior to the trip. I check it on a hunch, and the can had almost 3" of "stuff in it! Whatever made the oil level rise was now in the catch can! (I suspect it to be largely water)

Follow the link below to see a picture of the jug with the marks made showing the increase that resulted from that 500 mile trip (15K miles and 15.5K miles). I am not sure if it is gas, or moisture, or both, but it is clear to me that whatever it was boiled/evaporated out of the oil over the long haul trip. When home my trips are limited to 40-50 miles at a time, and most are about 20 miles in duration. The previous check on the catch can only had a trace of oil from the last oil change. There was 1900 miles on the truck since the last oil change and catch can check. So 1900 miles with almost nothing, and the last 500 miles with 2.5"-3" of something. Go figure!

It is also winter and colder, and my catch can seems to catch more of this stuff in the winter. However it was a dry cool day with much lower atmospheric humidity.

So make of it what you will, but something is going on that I do not understand. My 2005 ranger was driven exactly the same way under the same climatic conditions, and has never exhibited this behavior.

Here is the link to the post with pictures.

- T

 

[RedlandRanger]

I thought they were crazy too.... until just last week when I checked my oil prior to leaving on a 500 miles trip and my oil level was a 1/2" above the full mark on the dipstick. Now mind you I don't check it often, usually before a long trip or right before and after an oil change. Anyway I took the trip and arrived back home, and first thing in the AM I checked the oil level.... and guess what! it had dropped back down to just a 1/16" over the full mark! Truck was parked in the same location in the garage... and oil was checked after the truck sat all night.

I have a UPR catch can installed on the truck, and had emptied it out when I checked the oil prior to the trip. I check it on a hunch, and the can had almost 3" of "stuff in it! Whatever made the oil level rise was now in the catch can! (I suspect it to be largely water)

Follow the link below to see a picture of the jug with the marks made showing the increase that resulted from that 500 mile trip (15K miles and 15.5K miles). I am not sure if it is gas, or moisture, or both, but it is clear to me that whatever it was boiled/evaporated out of the oil over the long haul trip. When home my trips are limited to 40-50 miles at a time, and most are about 20 miles in duration. The previous check on the catch can only had a trace of oil from the last oil change. There was 1900 miles on the truck since the last oil change and catch can check. So 1900 miles with almost nothing, and the last 500 miles with 2.5"-3" of something. Go figure!

It is also winter and colder, and my catch can seems to catch more of this stuff in the winter. However it was a dry cool day with much lower atmospheric humidity.

So make of it what you will, but something is going on that I do not understand. My 2005 ranger was driven exactly the same way under the same climatic conditions, and has never exhibited this behavior.
Here is the link to the post with pictures.

- T

My guess is that the reason you have fuel in your oil is due to lots of short trips - the engine never gets fully warm to burn off the gas in the oil and wintertime makes the issue worse. On the longer trip it did, and burned off all the oil that had accumulated. That would be considered normal from what I understand. It is due to the blowby from the turbo and is typical in boosted engines.

The reason your 2005 Ranger did not do it is because it was naturally aspirated (no turbo).

My truck has not suffered from "making oil" but I typically do a bit longer trips and it doesn't normally get too cold here.

 

[AzScorpion]

I thought they were crazy too.... until just last week when I checked my oil prior to leaving on a 500 miles trip and my oil level was a 1/2" above the full mark on the dipstick. Now mind you I don't check it often, usually before a long trip or right before and after an oil change. Anyway I took the trip and arrived back home, and first thing in the AM I checked the oil level.... and guess what! it had dropped back down to just a 1/16" over the full mark! Truck was parked in the same location in the garage... and oil was checked after the truck sat all night.

I have a UPR catch can installed on the truck, and had emptied it out when I checked the oil prior to the trip. I check it on a hunch, and the can had almost 3" of "stuff in it! Whatever made the oil level rise was now in the catch can! (I suspect it to be largely water)

Follow the link below to see a picture of the jug with the marks made showing the increase that resulted from that 500 mile trip (15K miles and 15.5K miles). I am not sure if it is gas, or moisture, or both, but it is clear to me that whatever it was boiled/evaporated out of the oil over the long haul trip. When home my trips are limited to 40-50 miles at a time, and most are about 20 miles in duration. The previous check on the catch can only had a trace of oil from the last oil change. There was 1900 miles on the truck since the last oil change and catch can check. So 1900 miles with almost nothing, and the last 500 miles with 2.5"-3" of something. Go figure!

It is also winter and colder, and my catch can seems to catch more of this stuff in the winter. However it was a dry cool day with much lower atmospheric humidity.

So make of it what you will, but something is going on that I do not understand. My 2005 ranger was driven exactly the same way under the same climatic conditions, and has never exhibited this behavior.
Here is the link to the post with pictures.

- T

I don't think anyones crazy. I was just making a joke about how when that thread came out just about everyone went out to smell theirs. My thought (and it's possible it's wrong) is that this engine is in millions of Vehicles and I haven't seen any that had serious issues from this. Some say it goes away after x amount of miles and/or driving it hard once in a while. IDK I just never gave it much thought and when I check my oil levels they've been fine. I'm OCD and have much more to obsess over. lol

 

[TJC]

My guess is that the reason you have fuel in your oil is due to lots of short trips - the engine never gets fully warm to burn off the gas in the oil and wintertime makes the issue worse. On the longer trip it did, and burned off all the oil that had accumulated. That would be considered normal from what I understand. It is due to the blowby from the turbo and is typical in boosted engines.

The reason your 2005 Ranger did not do it is because it was naturally aspirated (no turbo).

My truck has not suffered from "making oil" but I typically do a bit longer trips and it doesn't normally get too cold here.

I think it is most likely water vapor....but it could be fuel.

I supercharged my 1993 LE Miata, and the oil level stays constant. I'm in the middle of removing the supercharger and upgrading to a turbo to quiet it down. It drones a little too much at highway speeds. That engine was also designed for a turbo early on but Mazda left it off in the Miata application. It has an threaded external oil port to feed the turbo bearings that is blocked.

I do believe that Ford designed the engine with much less ring pressure for several reasons, less friction to meet CAFE standards, and very high boost pressures from the turbo. About the most you can safely boost my Miata is 12psi without re-engineering the engine. Different rings, lower compression, etc. 8PSI-10PSI is as high as I will be going as I beleive going higher will adversely affect engine life.

Diluting engine oil is never a positive attribute, even if Ford considers it "normal" (Whether it is by water, fuel, or anything else). And requiring an automobile to be driven 100 miles to insure oil is not diluted is contrary to CAFE Standards & should be contrary to Engine design goals.

- T

 

[TJC]

I don't think anyones crazy. I was just making a joke about how when that thread came out just about everyone went out to smell theirs. My thought (and it's possible it's wrong) is that this engine is in millions of Vehicles and I haven't seen any that had serious issues from this. Some say it goes away after x amount of miles and/or driving it hard once in a while. IDK I just never gave it much thought and when I check my oil levels they've been fine. I'm OCD and have much more to obsess over. lol

Dave,
It is very easy (for me)to misinterpret written communications. I'm afraid I misunderstood your humorous intent, and was simply attempting to add a data point.

I have changed to a solid driveshaft and my unbalanced tires are magically balanced. No more low speed or high speed shakes or shudders! I actually enjoy driving the truck now. Believe it or not, my transmission seems to be behaving better as well. The truck now comes to a smooth stop. Prior to the change it tended to stay engaged too long, and would disengage just as I came to a stop causing the occupants to surge forward - drove my wife crazy! I have come to believe that the shudder adversely affected the ability of the transmission to adapt, as it is seems to be a different tamed beast now. Both starting and stopping, and high speed >=75mph. I am just now beginning to trust that when I step on the pedals, gas or brakes, the truck will consistently react. It took over 13,000 miles (and a $700 solid 1 piece driveshaft) to achieve this consistency.

I had never had the "fuel in oil" issue and had discounted it... until I saw it myself this last week. And I do think that it is more water vapor than fuel, but I could be wrong.

No matter... I do wish to apologize if I offended. It was not my intent at all. I respect everyone on this list.

- T

 

[AzScorpion]

Dave,
It is very easy (for me)to misinterpret written communications. I'm afraid I misunderstood your humorous intent, and was simply attempting to add a data point.

I have changed to a solid driveshaft and my unbalanced tires are magically balanced. No more low speed or high speed shakes or shudders! I actually enjoy driving the truck now. Believe it or not, my transmission seems to be behaving better as well. The truck now comes to a smooth stop. Prior to the change it tended to stay engaged too long, and would disengage just as I came to a stop causing the occupants to surge forward - drove my wife crazy! I have come to believe that the shudder adversely affected the ability of the transmission to adapt, as it is seems to be a different tamed beast now. Both starting and stopping, and high speed >=75mph. I am just now beginning to trust that when I step on the pedals, gas or brakes, the truck will consistently react. I took over 13,000 miles (and a $700 solid 1 piece driveshaft) to achieve this consistency.

I had never had the "fuel in oil" issue and had discounted it... until I saw it myself this last week. And I do think that it is more water vapor than fuel, but I could be wrong.

No matter... I do wish to apologize if I offended. It was not my intent at all. I respect everyone on this list.

- T

No apology necessary but thanks. I usually try to use emojis because they help to not mis-interpret what I'm saying at times. And sometimes my brain is thinking one thing and my fingers are typing another. lol

I'm glad to hear that the one piece DS helped you. I did follow that thread for a while but haven't been back over there for some time. It is strange how some can have an issue like yours and others with the same built frame don't. Just like the fuel in the oil. I'm not making fun of anyone who has it or checks often I personally don't think about it at all. Now I do change my oil every 5,000 mile which maybe helps? Some say it's throwing money out the window, I feel it's cheap insurance. Everyone has their own way (s) of doing thins and while it may seem wrong to others it's their truck and their decision on how the treat it and spend their money. Have a great weekend!! ?

 

[TJC]

I go 5K miles with full synthetic... thinking of going 5w40 to minimize valve stem buildup.

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