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[Bluebeastsrt]

Uh

Well it is funny reading for . There is another saying "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it".

Speaking of thinking. What did you think of yhe video?

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[Tiny]

I rest my case, I'm out

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Well it is funny reading for . There is another saying "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink it".

There is a closely related saying. "you can lead a horse to drink, but you cannot make him water"

 

[Bluebeastsrt]

I rest my case, I'm out

You Didnt watch it. Your here trying to be one of the cool kids. Typical followers in this thread. I don't want to think about anything. I just want to be one of the boys. Like millenials on twitter.

 

[jsphlynch]

Uh

Speaking of thinking. What did you think of yhe video?

You mean the video where some guy talks about how a 40-year-old non-turbo non-GDI engine was run on ethanol after the carburetor was changed to make it possible?

 

[Tiny]

I'll play one last time. You get me wrong Big D, I thought about it For about a minute and I concluded the Ford manual wins. Also, I follow my own path no one else's; and because I and others disagree with your assessments it does not make us wrong or you right, do whatever makes you happy, it is your truck. I am content to keep my truck stock, except for a few cosmetic accessories and know why; I am FORD--"Freakin Old Retired Dude" and happy to be alive and able to enjoy my beautiful truck. So no millennial here, I have 2 of those and by the way they have forged there own paths and are quite successful.

Big D, it's your truck, do what you want, spend what you want, drive it as hard as you want, enjoy it as much as you can. In the end it is all only about what satisfies you and puts a smile on your face. Enjoy, be happy, stay healthy. Over and definitely out!!

 

[Bluebeastsrt]

You mean the video where some guy talks about how a 40-year-old non-turbo non-GDI engine was run on ethanol after the carburetor was changed to make it possible?

Yes. And and if an old engine has no ill effects from the fuel in a torture test. You'd think A modern engine like the ecoboost should do at least as well as the 2.3 they used in the test. So yes that video.


And cliff note for all that refuse to watch. They test 5 different typed of fuel in the video.
Gasoline
E10
100% ethanol
Methanol blend
100% Methanol.
Steady state to see how they effect engine wear on a 2.3 litter engine.

And the first 3 fuel types show the exact same wear on engine components. Who woulda guessed?

 

[Frenchy]

Yes. And and if an old engine has no ill effects from the fuel in a torture test. You'd think A modern engine like the ecoboost should do at least as well as the 2.3 they used in the test. So yes that video.

I think you missed the part where he said it was a modified vehicle........ As said the vehicle had to be modified in order to run Ethanol..... If you think your truck is excluded from needing modifications you are wrong. A vehicle that is not designed for the high Ethanol fuels will always need some kind of modifications to run Ethanol. Our trucks specifically say E0 to E15. Any more than that and you will cause damage if vehicle has not had the necessary modifications done.

 

[FoD]

Gee, reading threads on which grade of fuel to use is almost as much fun as threads talking about which motor oil to use or what size tires would be best.

I'm out of this thread...

or the benefits of adding a tailgate damper...

 

[Bluebeastsrt]

I think you missed the part where he said it was a modified vehicle........ As said the vehicle had to be modified in order to run Ethanol..... If you think your truck is excluded from needing modifications you are wrong. A vehicle that is not designed for the high Ethanol fuels will always need some kind of modifications to run Ethanol. Our trucks specifically say E0 to E15. Any more than that and you will cause damage if vehicle has not had the necessary modifications done.

What needs to be modified to run ONE Extra gallon of ethanol mixxed with 87 octane on the ecoboost? You seem to have all the answers. So please save me from myself. Are we still going with the fuel system is maxed out in its current stock state? Or are we going with the pcm is to stupid to compensate for a few more percentage points of ethnol in fuel? Just curious frenchy? Are you tuned? Did you need a bigger fuel pump or injectors? When you picked up 30 rear wheel horse power? Because if you didn't. I think we can rule out that the fuel system cant handle an extra single gallon of ethnol blended to 87.I know the manual says to only run e10 to e15. But it also say an aftermarket tune voids my warranty. Hmmmmm

 

[Big Blue]

I'll play one last time. You get me wrong Big D, I thought about it For about a minute and I concluded the Ford manual wins. Also, I follow my own path no one else's; and because I and others disagree with your assessments it does not make us wrong or you right, do whatever makes you happy, it is your truck. I am content to keep my truck stock, except for a few cosmetic accessories and know why; I am FORD--"Freakin Old Retired Dude" and happy to be alive and able to enjoy my beautiful truck. So no millennial here, I have 2 of those and by the way they have forged there own paths and are quite successful.

Big D, it's your truck, do what you want, spend what you want, drive it as hard as you want, enjoy it as much as you can. In the end it is all only about what satisfies you and puts a smile on your face. Enjoy, be happy, stay healthy. Over and definitely out!!

What he said!

From my following of this argument, and that is what it turned into, is between running 100% E85 and Big D's mix of a couple of gallons of E85 and 17 gallons of 87 octane E10. I think we can ALL agree Running straight E85 in a stock truck is not a good thing. If I did the math right his mix makes it about E18, not sure where the octane shakes out. I little higher than reccomennded but not terrible. I'm not sure if the hassle is worth cost savings or minimal performance gains you'll see with a stock truck.

So can't we agree to disagree and get back to some more productive discussions this forum was meant for. Let Big D do his mix thing, let the rest of us fill-up with our overpriced 91-93 premium, and all of us enjoy the ride .

 

[Big Blue]

What he said!

From my following of this argument, and that is what it turned into, is between running 100% E85 and Big D's mix of a couple of gallons of E85 and 17 gallons of 87 octane E10. I think we can ALL agree Running straight E85 in a stock truck is not a good thing. If I did the math right his mix makes it about E18, not sure where the octane shakes out. I little higher than reccomennded but not terrible. I'm not sure if the hassle is worth cost savings or minimal performance gains you'll see with a stock truck.

So can't we agree to disagree and get back to some more productive discussions this forum was meant for. Let Big D do his mix thing, let the rest of us fill-up with our overpriced 91-93 premium, and all of us enjoy the ride .

Yay! A like from both sides, I think that deserves a dancing Turkey, Wink-Wink, Tracy

 

[Rviator]

To get back to the real subject of this thread....
I filled up with Sunoco premium today at about 1/4 tank after running mid-grade fuel exclusively. I am a doubter as to the benefits of premium under normal driving conditions so we shall see. In order to minimize the fuel dilution effect I'll fill with premium at the next fill up as well. I doubt I'll feel any any real difference over the next few weeks though.

 

[Doc]

I'm running low on popcorn . . .

I just put him ( BB ) on ignore....

 

[Frenchy]

To get back to the real subject of this thread....
I filled up with Sunoco premium today at about 1/4 tank after running mid-grade fuel exclusively. I am a doubter as to the benefits of premium under normal driving conditions so we shall see. In order to minimize the fuel dilution effect I'll fill with premium at the next fill up as well. I doubt I'll feel any any real difference over the next few weeks though.

Give a little bit of time. If anything my switch was from 87 to 91 and I got to see the difference on my second tank. Now im not talking a difference you would see with a tune but the better overall response and increased MPG(1-2 at best) was worth the price to me. I hope you get to see similar benefits as well.

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