PRE COLLISION ASSIST

[Blue Streak]

You must have the Co-Pilot 360. with the 4.2" productivity screen.
That is the same instrument cluster as the XLT.
The 2.3" Screen looks like this...

I have an XL STX with 101A package. I see nothing showing that I have 360 co-pilot. I will have to look it up to see what it consists of.
This is a shot of my instrument cluster.

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[Floyd]

I have an XL STX with 101A package. I see nothing showing that I have 360 co-pilot. I will have to look it up to see what it consists of.
This is a shot of my instrument cluster.

The option includes the list below..
Do you have the blind spot light in the outside rear view mirror?

Ford Co-Pilot360™
$735 S4
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Introducing Ford Co-Pilot360™ – a suite of driver-assist technologies* that can help you navigate our increasingly crowded roads and highways with greater confidence.

Package includes:
• Auto-High Beam Headlamps
• BLIS® (Blind Spot information System) with Cross-Traffic Alert and Trailer Tow Monitoring
• Lane-Keeping System (Lane-Keeping Aid, Lane-Keeping Alert, and Driver Alert System)

110V AC Power Outlet, Forward Sensing System, and Reverse Sensing System are included when Ford Co-Pilot360™ is ordered.
*Driver-assist features are supplemental and do not replace the driver’s attention, judgment and the need to control the vehicle. Lane-Keeping System does not control steering.

 

[Floyd]

I see you have

I also have an XL STX. I have no light strip. My warning flashes up on the screen between the tach & spedo with audio alert.
Reason I keep hitting my head on the wall when I stop it hurts

On second thought ...I see you have 4WD ... You say FX.
Can we assume you mean FX4?
That would also require the addition of the 4.2 " productivity screen to cover your off road features.
At any rate You do have the 4.2" productivity screen, which does include the integrated collision warning.

The 2.3" screen which is standard on the 2WD XL and STX, does not have that feature and so must include the light strip up by the defrost vent on the top of the dash in front of the driver.
The 2.3" screen is also standard on the non-FX4, 4WD XL series trucks.

At any rate...
Any 2019 Ranger with the 2.3" productivity screen will have the light strip.

 

[Blue Streak]

The option includes the list below..
Do you have the blind spot light in the outside rear view mirror?

Ford Co-Pilot360™
$735 S4
Add
Introducing Ford Co-Pilot360™ – a suite of driver-assist technologies* that can help you navigate our increasingly crowded roads and highways with greater confidence.

Package includes:
• Auto-High Beam Headlamps
• BLIS® (Blind Spot information System) with Cross-Traffic Alert and Trailer Tow Monitoring
• Lane-Keeping System (Lane-Keeping Aid, Lane-Keeping Alert, and Driver Alert System)

110V AC Power Outlet, Forward Sensing System, and Reverse Sensing System are included when Ford Co-Pilot360™ is ordered.
*Driver-assist features are supplemental and do not replace the driver’s attention, judgment and the need to control the vehicle. Lane-Keeping System does not control steering.

No to your question about the mirror and have none of the features listed.

 

[Floyd]

No to your question about the mirror and have none of the features listed.

Yeah It was an after thought about the FX4 package,since I don't think in terms of "Off Road"
You do have the FX4 package then?
Please read my post #116 for my explanation.

 

[Blue Streak]

Yeah It was an after thought about the FX4 package,since I don't think in terms of "Off Road"
You do have the FX4 package then?
Please read my post #116 for my explanation.

I do have the FX4 package. That explains it. So much to figure out. Like physics change this one thing it changes everything else.

 

[Schafies]

UPDATE:
after sending a LOOOOOOONNNNNGGGG email (with many links to ford's video's and brochures).
The salesman's response:
- salesman spent 3-4 hours testing Rangers that were on his lot to figure our this pre collisions system.
- salesman invited me in to drive one of those Rangers for a demonstration....and then he drove my vehicle as well to compare.
DEMO: We were traveling at approximately 40-50mph and really drove up fast and CLOSE (danger close) to the vehicle in front of us before the audible and in-dash, red light warnings alerted. The salesman then had to slam the brakes pretty hard. I'm sure the guy in front of us did not appreciate this at all. This was, in my opinion, WAY to close for comfort. I really would like this alert to happen with more distance between my vehicle and the vehicle in front of me. Also, the system was set to "high" sensitivity. I would have never driven up this close in my personal testing of the vehicle. And it was closer than I recollect from my original test drive (weeks ago) when the system alerted me. We did this demonstration in both one of their un-sold Rangers on their lot and then in my recently-purchased Ranger.

I left satisfied that the system works...but I would really like to increase the distance between vehicles for the alert to sound.


After getting my vehicle off the lot:
I tested it in a parking lot exactly like the test in this video.
Test #1: i was driving at 10 mph in the first test. The system gave me an audible and visual (on the dash cluster NOT on the windshield) and then I quickly slammed on the brakes to avoid injuring my "pedestrian".
Test #2: Driving at 5 mph. the system gave me an audible and visual (exactly like test #1). Then, the system activated the automatic brakes HARD...both me and my passenger were surprised and how the brakes sounded like the were grinding. In the very next instance, i was slamming the brakes. But it was clear to me that the system had activated the brakes be

**I think the reason the Automatic brakes kicked in on this test was because since I was traveling at only 5pmh, I did not put my foot on the brake pedal as soon as I did in test #1 because i had more time between the "threshold" (when the alert first sounded and a collision) distance and an actual collision with the pedestrian. In test #1 (10 mph), i was closing that 'threshold' distance (when the alert first sounded and a collision) at a faster rate. Therefore, I put my foot on the brakes quicker and sooner than i did in test #2 and therefore I did not give the automatic system the chance to activate the brakes**

I was pleased with the time and distance between my vehicle and the "pedestrian" in both test #1 and #2.

However, I think it would be in Ford's (and everyone on the road's) best interest to adjust the "highest" sensitivity level in order to increase the distance between vehicles when traveling at greater speeds typical of roads (as opposed to parking lot speeds).

I hope that made sense.

again: XLT with NO adaptive cruise control.

Made sense to me. Part of the problem with me is that I have experienced the pre collision in a different Ford vehicle (Explorer). The pre collision reacts totally different than what has been described in this forum, I mean totally different, why? I'm certain now that the pre collision is working in my Ranger but reading the descriptions of how some on this forum have experienced it activating is down right scary as hell to me. Again, I have a comparison. In the Explorer set at normal sensitivity it activates in a way I would say, you would expect. None of this, oh damn I wasn't sure it will actually work and you have to hit the brakes, or it did activate but damn I was close, scary close. What is making the pre collision react so differently between, in my case, my two Ford vehicles?

I'm thinking this will be my starting point with my dealer. I will take my Explorer to the dealer, have the discussion with them regarding the differences between it and the Ranger. If I'm not satisfied with that outcome then we'll take the Explorer out and do such a test as Deckburner did with his dealer. Then I will have them take me out in a Ranger and do such test. Hopefully the dealer will be able to explain why one system reacts as expected, and the other reacts it the way it does.

 

[VAMike]

Made sense to me. Part of the problem with me is that I have experienced the pre collision in a different Ford vehicle (Explorer). The pre collision reacts totally different than what has been described in this forum, I mean totally different, why?

Because it's intended as a last-ditch emergency system, and if it activates too often people lose their shit and turn it off, ranting that they drive too well to need any nanny safety systems. If you want something that keeps greater distances so it's more of a general driving aid, get the cruise control upgrade.

 

[DrSafety]

Because it's intended as a last-ditch emergency system, and if it activates too often people lose their shit and turn it off, ranting that they drive too well to need any nanny safety systems. If you want something that keeps greater distances so it's more of a general driving aid, get the cruise control upgrade.

Mike thanks for posting this you did it much more succinctly than I was planning. You are exactly correct if the system activates too frequently people, unfortunately, will be more likely to turn it off.

Human nature seems to have less and less patience for items that annoy us. Case in point is all the posts on how to deactivate auto start/stop function, all because we don't want to hit the switch every time we get in the truck. I am not trying to find fault with that quest just pointing out what we as humans will do to eliminate an annoyance. We all have different tolerances for what and how something annoys us.

I often ask a room full of people how many think you are a good driver, as an example of how strong self-serving bias is in us. Usually, well over 90% of the people raise their hands. I then say statistically speaking 50% of you are wrong and 10% of you are honest. If 90% were good drivers we wouldn't kill over 40,000 people on the road every year.

 

[Schafies]

The pre collision in my Explorer doesn't activate too quickly or too often at all. It has activated while I'm driving it I believe three times in 23,000 miles. One time was a beginning of a visual with the dash light strip, once with a visual/audible, and once with visual/audible/braking.

VAMike - If the adaptive cruise is actually the difference then that's what I have been trying to figure out. I have all along been suspect that is the key difference, but until your post know one has made that statement, or if I missed it in another post I apologize. A lot of brain cell wasted here. Can you explain, or point me in the right direction so I can understand exactly what's going on regarding adaptive cruise or no adaptive cruise that makes the two react differently. I'd appreciate that. Thanks.

Dr Safety - Funny you comment on disabling technology features on vehicles. Case in point, the first long distance trip in my Explorer the adaptive cruise was on by default. The first time it started to do "it's thing" I immediately didn't like it so I turned it off for the remainder of the trip. A year later on another long distance trip I thought I would give it another chance. This time I took the time to familiarize myself a bit better with the system before the trip, then while on the trip I made small adjustments and stuck with it. I now absolutely love it.

Problem is, I had already ordered my Ranger and declined the technology pkg. remembering my first experience with adaptive cruse prior to this second trip. I called the dealer to make an order change to no avail. I had no clue at the time it would make the difference in pre collision as VAMike has now confirmed.

 

[DrummerDave]

Car and Driver tested four vehicles’ collision avoidance systems. The article didn’t answer all the questions raised in this discussion but it did help me understand a bit more about the variables involved. Here’s a link to the article: https://www.caranddriver.com/featur...es-automatic-braking-system-tested-explained/

 

[DrSafety]

Car and Driver tested four vehicles’ collision avoidance systems. The article didn’t answer all the questions raised in this discussion but it did help me understand a bit more about the variables involved. Here’s a link to the article: https://www.caranddriver.com/featur...es-automatic-braking-system-tested-explained/

Thanks for sharing this article. It also appears that there is still a a great need for good driving habits.

 

[DrummerDave]

Thanks for sharing this article. It also appears that there is still a a great need for good driving habits.

Agreed. Don’t bother looking here in Phoenix. There aren't enough good driving habits here to put in tea and ever find it again.

 

[DBaz]

Will never have another vehicle without adaptive cruise

 

[VAMike]

VAMike - If the adaptive cruise is actually the difference then that's what I have been trying to figure out. I have all along been suspect that is the key difference, but until your post know one has made that statement, or if I missed it in another post I apologize. A lot of brain cell wasted here. Can you explain, or point me in the right direction so I can understand exactly what's going on regarding adaptive cruise or no adaptive cruise that makes the two react differently. I'd appreciate that. Thanks.

My point was that collision assist is an emergency system; if you want something where you can tune the distance between you and the car in front of you so that it stops you earlier (in a non-emergency situation) then you can get adaptive cruise.

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