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Think your missing some points. For example, my pistol is on me when I'm erect or for very short drives. If not, (long drives), it is attached next to my knee. Whether a magnet, holster, etc., I don't think anyone has the intent of leaving it holstered in a vehicle while away. If I cannot carry it with me when about, it gets locked in my vault in my truck. Plain and simple. The only thing you're limited to is if you mount an actual holster without interchangeable mounts. If if you switch out your carry, that's an issue.

So, if you'd rather pull your gun out of your waist, your crotch or otherwise, rather than have it convenient less than 6 inches from your hand which means, not changing your position or contorting yourself, have at it.

I guarantee my gun will be trained on a target before you say o'oh shite'!
Mine too. If I'm on a short trip it stay holstered but any long trips like the 2 hour drive to Flagstaff a couple weeks back it's on the magnet mount right next to me. Anytime I exit the truck it gets holstered, never left alone. I can grab it off the magnet faster than I can draw it from the holster while seated.
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Mine too. If I'm on a short trip it stay holstered but any long trips like the 2 hour drive to Flagstaff a couple weeks back it's on the magnet mount right next to me. Anytime I exit the truck it gets holstered, never left alone. I can grab it off the magnet faster than I can draw it from the holster while seated.
Especially when us old guys have a spare tire to deal with. :LOL:
 

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I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I'd not bother with vehicle mounted holsters for pistols. It should either be locked up inaccessible in your vehicle or directly on your person. Bear with me while I explain! :D

1. The vehicle is a coffin. If you can't quickly accelerate away from (or over) the threat, you need to exit the vehicle and move to hard cover. It takes no skills for an assailant to engage you while your seated and immobile in your vehicle, all while they have the freedom of movement. They have a fixed aiming point while you will have to track a moving target. Sitting in your car has got to be one of the worse places to get into a gunfight. Get out of the car.

2. Un-assing your vehicle in a gunfight without your gun directly on your person may really suck. If it's fixed to some part of your vehicle's interior, most likely it will stay there when "it" hits the fan and your brain starts trying to figure out what to do and in a hurry. If the gun is on your person, it leaves the vehicle with you during that really bad situation.

3. Good training and practice are invaluable. And in this case, I mean training on how to get out of the holster while seated. Training on how to ditch your seat belt. Training on how to quickly AND safely exit your vehicle with your weapon in hand. Training how to engage in and around your car (VCQB - Vehicle Close Quarter Battle). Training on what parts of your vehicle are good for cover and what parts are only good for concealment. Training how to get on target with your family in the same vehicle with you, without pointing your business end at their pumpkins. Your wife may be a little cross with you afterwards if you make her look down the barrel of your pistol. But with the proper training, you'll be able to get out of the holster while seated, blindingly fast.

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Thank you! Great advice. :)
 

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Mine too. If I'm on a short trip it stay holstered but any long trips like the 2 hour drive to Flagstaff a couple weeks back it's on the magnet mount right next to me. Anytime I exit the truck it gets holstered, never left alone. I can grab it off the magnet faster than I can draw it from the holster while seated.
You can get out of the holster while seated ridiculously fast with practice. And if it's in your holster, your guaranteed to have it on your person when you dump out of that vehicle in a hurry.

As for long times seated in the car while holstered, I can tell you that 12 hour shifts sometimes stretch out to 16 hour shifts in a patrol car on really bad days. With more equipment and less room to maneuver in a car with a duty belt on, we still train our guys how to get that gun out and press the fight without loosing time.

Just trying to provide some helpful information based on some training experience and shooting from in and around cars. Ideally, you'll never have to find out what works and doesn't work!
 


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You can get out of the holster while seated ridiculously fast with practice. And if it's in your holster, your guaranteed to have it on your person when you dump out of that vehicle in a hurry.

As for long times seated in the car while holstered, I can tell you that 12 hour shifts sometimes stretch out to 16 hour shifts in a patrol car on really bad days. With more equipment and less room to maneuver in a car with a duty belt on, we still train our guys how to get that gun out and press the fight without loosing time.

Just trying to provide some helpful information based on some training experience and shooting from in and around cars. Ideally, you'll never have to find out what works and doesn't work!
All your info is very helpful! But as you said we'll probably never be in the situations you guys are. For me the magnet mount is for convenience as I have a bad back and am constantly moving around and adjusting myself while driving on long trips. I've seen the gear you have to wear/carry and I honestly don't know how you do it! Be careful out there and Thank You for all you do! :like:
 

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You can get out of the holster while seated ridiculously fast with practice. And if it's in your holster, your guaranteed to have it on your person when you dump out of that vehicle in a hurry.

As for long times seated in the car while holstered, I can tell you that 12 hour shifts sometimes stretch out to 16 hour shifts in a patrol car on really bad days. With more equipment and less room to maneuver in a car with a duty belt on, we still train our guys how to get that gun out and press the fight without loosing time.

Just trying to provide some helpful information based on some training experience and shooting from in and around cars. Ideally, you'll never have to find out what works and doesn't work!
Don't take me wrong... It is good info.
I gave that up a long time ago and had many chats with a swat cop/chief buddy of mine and other old cop buddies. The difference in my buds are that they are not just cops but gun lovers that take their hobby seriously. Others are happy to just qualify.

These are extremes and IMHO, require extensive training. Like practicing shooting, its a perishable skill. Most do not practice enough, nor know what to do when a situation occurs.
Hell, I know a lot of cops that can't shoot worth a dime and admit it. To quite a few, a gun is just a tool.

I'd rather see folks practice to shoot and at least hit paper. In field training and/or getting vehicle training requires serious stuff. If anyone wants to train that way, God Bless them, but like I said, most John Q Public just carry and hopefully get by with the skills they have.
Here is a ton of companies offering this training.
Cheers..

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All your info is very helpful! But as you said we'll probably never be in the situations you guys are. For me the magnet mount is for convenience as I have a bad back and am constantly moving around and adjusting myself while driving on long trips. I've seen the gear you have to wear/carry and I honestly don't know how you do it! Be careful out there and Thank You for all you do! :like:
I'm lucky! I'm back off the road and in my old job as a full time trainer. Guns, bullets, and coffee!
 

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Don't take me wrong... It is good info.
I gave that up a long time ago and had many chats with a swat cop/chief buddy of mine and other old cop buddies. The difference in my buds are that they are not just cops but gun lovers that take their hobby seriously. Others are happy to just qualify.

These are extremes and IMHO, require extensive training. Like practicing shooting, its a perishable skill. Most do not practice enough, nor know what to do when a situation occurs.
Hell, I know a lot of cops that can't shoot worth a dime and admit it. To quite a few, a gun is just a tool.

I'd rather see folks practice to shoot and at least hit paper. In field training and/or getting vehicle training requires serious stuff. If anyone wants to train that way, God Bless them, but like I said, most John Q Public just carry and hopefully get by with the skills they have.
Here is a ton of companies offering this training.
Cheers..

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk02mV_LeUQAlpExCzyitw-gavTIMYQ:1597239984380&ei=sPIzX6aoEeig5wLlk5bADw&q=tactical+field+gun+training+from+vehicles&oq=tactical+field+gun+training+from+vehicles&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQA1C8hAFYk5QBYNaiAWgAcAB4AIABkAOIAfkXkgEFMy03LjGYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6wAEB&sclient=psy-ab&ved=0ahUKEwimwInP5pXrAhVo0FkKHeWJBfgQ4dUDCAw&uact=5
Yep. It's shocking to me that some agencies only provide their officers with enough rounds to shoot a basic qualifier once a year and that's all anybody shoots!

Some of us really don't care to hone our pistol craft and some of us live it! (Not me, I just enjoy it.)

But as I've found, people do better in some areas and not so good in others. We've got people that can't drive for anything but are gifted in the investigative department. We've got people that can sweet talk folks into doing what we need them to do, but can't investigate their way out of a wet paper bag.

But without the practice, it's just not going to happen. You're right about that. But for someone who wants to take this seriously, a dummy gun in the garage is all you need. Or a place where no one can see you to work the exterior of the car (stacking the A, B, and C pillars gives you a lot of cover!).
 

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Here is an old photo (Ill get one tomorrow of it in the Ranger). This panel goes on the back of passenger from seat. If I need access I just reach over behind the seat and pop it out.

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And its not a holster, but my 13 year old daughter using the Ranger as a shooting platform for my DMR setup. lol

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I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I'd not bother with vehicle mounted holsters for pistols. It should either be locked up inaccessible in your vehicle or directly on your person. Bear with me while I explain! :D

1. The vehicle is a coffin. If you can't quickly accelerate away from (or over) the threat, you need to exit the vehicle and move to hard cover. It takes no skills for an assailant to engage you while your seated and immobile in your vehicle, all while they have the freedom of movement. They have a fixed aiming point while you will have to track a moving target. Sitting in your car has got to be one of the worse places to get into a gunfight. Get out of the car.

2. Un-assing your vehicle in a gunfight without your gun directly on your person may really suck. If it's fixed to some part of your vehicle's interior, most likely it will stay there when "it" hits the fan and your brain starts trying to figure out what to do and in a hurry. If the gun is on your person, it leaves the vehicle with you during that really bad situation.

3. Good training and practice are invaluable. And in this case, I mean training on how to get out of the holster while seated. Training on how to ditch your seat belt. Training on how to quickly AND safely exit your vehicle with your weapon in hand. Training how to engage in and around your car (VCQB - Vehicle Close Quarter Battle). Training on what parts of your vehicle are good for cover and what parts are only good for concealment. Training how to get on target with your family in the same vehicle with you, without pointing your business end at their pumpkins. Your wife may be a little cross with you afterwards if you make her look down the barrel of your pistol. But with the proper training, you'll be able to get out of the holster while seated, blindingly fast.

:D
Mine is always holstered. I train that way. You never know what will transpire when it hits the fan. I choose to have a weapon with me at all times.
 
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Mine is always holstered. I train that way. You never know what will transpire when it hits the fan. I chose to have a weapon with me at all times.
Exactly! I don't want to be scrambling for my gun as I'm trying to un-ass my car!
 

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Does anyone have a good under seat safe they would recommend.

I work at an airport,and can not bring anything on the airfield,so I must leave my babies in the vehicle......

Also had situations where on a school ground,not the thing you can bring in with you.

I have a sub where the ford safe would mount,so looking for other solid options.
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