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Based on what exactly? Your 'feeling'?
10k is the max under ideal driving conditions. Let's make some assumptions.
  • An oil change is $75
  • You will keep your truck for 200k miles
If a 5000 mile oil change extends the life of the truck by 3.75%, or 7500 miles, the *20* extra oil changes paid for themselves. According to a great deal of anecdotal evidence, for example this video: more frequent oil changes are the number one way to extend the life of an ecoboost. I for one will pay an extra $112.50/year (I drive 15000 miles per year) for a chance to extend the life of my engine.

Remember, Ford has an interest in advertising longer oil change intervals. It lowers the TCO on paper, and as long as it doesn't cause a failure during the warranty period, there is no direct financial impact. The reality is even if the failure occurs at 150k instead of 250k, no one really thinks twice about an engine failure in a vehicle with 150k miles.
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10k is the max under ideal driving conditions. Let's make some assumptions.
  • An oil change is $75
  • You will keep your truck for 200k miles
If a 5000 mile oil change extends the life of the truck by 3.75%, or 7500 miles, the *20* extra oil changes paid for themselves. According to a great deal of anecdotal evidence, for example this video: more frequent oil changes are the number one way to extend the life of an ecoboost. I for one will pay an extra $112.50/year (I drive 15000 miles per year) for a chance to extend the life of my engine.

Remember, Ford has an interest in advertising longer oil change intervals. It lowers the TCO on paper, and as long as it doesn't cause a failure during the warranty period, there is no direct financial impact. The reality is even if the failure occurs at 150k instead of 250k, no one really thinks twice about an engine failure in a vehicle with 150k miles.
Realistically modern engines don't fail. The rest of the vehicle rots away, or becomes economically unviable LONG, LONG before the engine would have a catastrophic failure. And of those catastrophic failures those caused by the oil being changed at the manufacturers recommendation rather than 5k, is 0%. Okay maybe 0.0000000001%. But if it makes you feel better, then go for it. Modern engines fail from gross neglect, or aging components, not from rod journal debris. Changing the oil at the vehicles calculated recommendation is not neglect and will get the engine to outlast the vehicle. Turbos assemblies are also relatively cheap (3-4 oil changes of cost), and easy to access and swap, since that was your primary concern.
 

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Talk about a placebo effect. You should see how smooth it shifts, when you add new wiper fluid.
Added new wiper blades to our Focus ST last month. Picked up another 15 HP easy.
 

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10k is the max under ideal driving conditions. Let's make some assumptions.
  • An oil change is $75
  • You will keep your truck for 200k miles
If a 5000 mile oil change extends the life of the truck by 3.75%, or 7500 miles, the *20* extra oil changes paid for themselves. According to a great deal of anecdotal evidence, for example this video: more frequent oil changes are the number one way to extend the life of an ecoboost. I for one will pay an extra $112.50/year (I drive 15000 miles per year) for a chance to extend the life of my engine.

Remember, Ford has an interest in advertising longer oil change intervals. It lowers the TCO on paper, and as long as it doesn't cause a failure during the warranty period, there is no direct financial impact. The reality is even if the failure occurs at 150k instead of 250k, no one really thinks twice about an engine failure in a vehicle with 150k miles.
Spot on with the advertised TCO comments. Every manufacturer does it. Cars, heavy duty trucks, construction equipment, you name it.
 


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ok nearing 50k miles and getting ready to tow the TT on Saturday, decided to change the rear diff fluid, found it to be in good shape, albeit slightly darker than brand new stuff but that's to be expected, no chunks of metal, small amount of metallic goop on the drain plug.
Also had checked the ATF some time ago and other than it being 10 ~ 12 oz low that too is in good shape, might change it around 60k depending on the color.
Not about to join the over maintainer club and definately will never consider using amsoil, engine gets Wally Mart syn and is very contented - oh yeah the diff fluid is genuine Wally Mart as well.
 

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All my talk about over maintaining.

I got to looking through my maintenance log.

I completely missed my 30,000 diff change. So I now have 50,000 miles on my fluid in there. The good thing is, I'm confident that it is ok since I'd changed it at 12k to get the break-in metals out. It will get changed before our trip to FL on Friday.

I say all of that to say. If you're an 'over maintainer' and you brain fart and miss a service, there's a very good possibility you're still within 'normal' service limits.
 

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All my talk about over maintaining.

I got to looking through my maintenance log.

I completely missed my 30,000 diff change. So I now have 50,000 miles on my fluid in there. The good thing is, I'm confident that it is ok since I'd changed it at 12k to get the break-in metals out. It will get changed before our trip to FL on Friday.

I say all of that to say. If you're an 'over maintainer' and you brain fart and miss a service, there's a very good possibility you're still within 'normal' service limits.
I’m an over maintainer because my job is to fix broken and worn out cars everyday from lack of maintenance and I don’t want my Ranger fall into that category?.
 

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I maintain items that are supposed to explode, dont want that to happen to my vehicles. So over maintenance is good peace of mind.

My buddy did say my old f150 with 268k was probably the best maintained f150 in the world. I think I might be one of these people.
 

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I go by what the dealer sticker, that oil percent gauge and the manual say.
I just don't care enough about it. I unload my vehicles pretty much after I pay them off which is rea close with this ranger.
Prior to joining the local car wash, I might have drove through a car wash twice a year.
Couldn't tell you the last time I drug out a hose and bucket of soap. :p
 

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Another thing I just thought of, prompted by something the OP Mentioned. It totally depends on where you are in the country as well. Here in the South, we can keep cars for decades and not have issues. My 2003 Accord doesn't have a speck of rust anywhere on it and I'm confident I could remove any of the bolts with the correct sized socket and they would come right out.

If I lived in PA, that car would have been in the crusher after 10 years and it wouldn't have made any sense to be strict about the maintenance intervals. As it sits, it just crossed 300k. The paint and interior look like hell, but it still runs like a dream.
 

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Gonna stoke the flames!!!!

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I for diff, engine, graphene, spray, tire shine, oil filter, everything, and often!
 

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OMG! None of you amateurs are doing a drain and fill on the air in your tires (don't forget the spare!). Every 2 years or full solar eclipse, MINIMUM!!! And use the dry Nitrogen too.
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