Not as good as I thought it was. (MPG)

[Adamcarr]

90% of my family works at one of the plants. I was the weird one that went Army instead of wearing nomex all the time.

I've had the luxury of wearing both uniforms. The Army just makes me feel like I have a back of a 50 yr old now(I'm 31 right now).

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[Wytchdctr]

I've had the luxury of wearing both uniforms. The Army just makes me feel like I have a back of a 50 yr old now(I'm 31 right now).

Back is ok; knees are gone. Literally on the right side.

I did not get the mpc (miles per cartridge) I was promised after joining the army.....

 

[BrassSlinger]

This is when I wish I still had my sport bikes! IIRC there's something like 167 corners from Jerome - Prescott.

I live next to the Tail of the Dragon here in Western NC , 318 curves in 11 miles.

Enter if you dare

https://www.nicoclub.com/archives/tale-tail-dragon.html

 

[Muffin1]

The key to getting good mileage with a turbo engine is to keep it out of boost. If you are always mashing the gas you are not going to get good mileage. The 2.3 Ecoboost engine in the Ranger has enough power off boost to easily accelerate with traffic without going into boost so there is no need to use boost for normal driving.

So without any boost gauge how would i know when the turbo is in boost ?(other than the obvious nailing it) Is there a rpm it kicks in? This is my first turbo vehicle so I'm unfamiliar with its attributes.

 

[Dgc333]

So without any boost gauge how would i know when the turbo is in boost ?(other than the obvious nailing it) Is there a rpm it kicks in? This is my first turbo vehicle so I'm unfamiliar with its attributes.

The fact that the Ranger does not have a boost gauge is a big miss on Fords part. They advertise their Ecoboost engines as economical but don't give you the gauge that is needed to realize that economy. I am adding a gauge pod with boost, oil pressure and voltage to my Ranger.

Boost is created by putting a load on the engine. More load equal more exhaust flow which spins the turbo faster resulting in more boost. So mashing the throttle right off idle you will start to see boost below 2000 rpm. If you rev the engine in idle to 4 or 5000 rpm you won't get any boost.

I have been driving a 2.3 Ecoboost power vehicle for the past 6 years and can tell from the sound and acceleration when I am getting into boost but the boost gauge is still the best way to know.

 

[jblc]

They advertise their Ecoboost engines as economical but don't give you the gauge that is needed to realize that economy

Which way does this go? Do you mean that being in boost mode is more economical than non-boost mode? Or that we get the option of lots of power from boost, and the engine is tuned to be more economical in low-power mode without boost?

 

[BassRanger]

There's no point in worrying about being in boost or not, just be smooth and light with your throttle inputs. The truck has an instantaneous fuel economy gauge so you can monitor how your driving is affecting you fuel economy in real time.

 

[dtech]

Dropping the boost gauge was part of the evolution and broader acceptance of turbocharged autos, turbos became smoother, tamer and for many knowing what the boost level is irrevelant.
Of course some want/need to see a needle moving just as some need to have a bov that makes a lot of useless noise. And then there is that artificial cabin noise that reassures us that we aren't really driving a 4 banger.

 

[Muffin1]

The fact that the Ranger does not have a boost gauge is a big miss on Fords part. They advertise their Ecoboost engines as economical but don't give you the gauge that is needed to realize that economy. I am adding a gauge pod with boost, oil pressure and voltage to my Ranger.

Boost is created by putting a load on the engine. More load equal more exhaust flow which spins the turbo faster resulting in more boost. So mashing the throttle right off idle you will start to see boost below 2000 rpm. If you rev the engine in idle to 4 or 5000 rpm you won't get any boost.

I have been driving a 2.3 Ecoboost power vehicle for the past 6 years and can tell from the sound and acceleration when I am getting into boost but the boost gauge is still the best way to know.

Yes i can feel the boost when entering on a highway or need to pass a slower vehicle, just wasn't sure how or if it comes into play while cruising at say 70 or 75 with the CC set, which is about 2000+ rpm, so thanks for the explanation.

 

[Dgc333]

Dropping the boost gauge was part of the evolution and broader acceptance of turbocharged autos, turbos became smoother, tamer and for many knowing what the boost level is irrevelant.

That may be true regarding acceptance of turbo engines. BUT, boost voltage, air/fuel, etc are already on the CAN bus and other Ford products display these measurements in their displays so the programing exists to display it. It is a big miss on Fords part to not give the owner the option of displaying the items they want.

 

[dtech]

Yeah I'd agree having it as an option would make sense, others on here point out things Ford "missed" are stuff like a heated steering wheel . Pretty clear they made some decisions in the re-intro and have stayed the course as far as adds but with robust sales made numerous deletes.
Wouldn't be surprised if 6G has a boost gauge display option, heated steering wheel option and so on.
I had a number of Saabs that had boost gauges, Saab removed them from the 1999 9-5 but but them back a few years later, can't say I really cared one way or another.

 

[CB750F]

Just put it in a display so I can see it, probably get tired of it after few days.

 

[BassRanger]

It doesn't really make sense for Ford to clutter up their menus with a bunch of data and gauges that the vast majority of drivers neither need nor desire to see. Boost, AFR, etc. are about as relevant to the average driver as injector duty cycle, spark advance, or commanded lambda. There's just no practical reason for Ford to offer monitoring of this data.

 

[dtech]

Just put it in a display so I can see it, probably get tired of it after few days.

Kind of like paddle shifters, I think I 1st had them on a 2004 Saab, used them a few times when car was new and then decided to let the auto box do it's thing.

 

[Dgc333]

It doesn't really make sense for Ford to clutter up their menus with a bunch of data and gauges that the vast majority of drivers neither need nor desire to see. Boost, AFR, etc. are about as relevant to the average driver as injector duty cycle, spark advance, or commanded lambda. There's just no practical reason for Ford to offer monitoring of this data.

But they see fit to "clutter up" the menu with with off-road gauges which I would say is less relevant than a boost gauge to the vast majority of drivers. I have been driving off road for over 30 years and have never been in a situation that the gauges would have been useful but I am glad they are there for those that can use them.

All these parameters can be made available without any clutter by putting them under a sub-menu. If you are not interested you don't have to go to the sub menu. Better yet do what Ford did with the digital Mustang dash and allow the driver to configure the dash to display what they want to see. Even the digital dash in my wife's 14 Dart and the display between the speedo in my wife's 21 Jeep can be configured to display different parameters in different places on the display. Both the Dart and Jeep have a sub-menu that have the traditional parameters that are not available at all in the Ranger.

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