Latest TSB for the 10R80

[Vr22s]

What I was told is that they take a used housing and everything else is new. Perhaps a better term is remanufactured. From what I read this should be a much better transmission.

Obviously too early to tell if mine is going to last. But I can certainly tell it shifts so smooth now. Feels like a different truck.

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[Stevedbvik1]

What I was told is that they take a used housing and everything else is new. Perhaps a better term is remanufactured. From what I read this should be a much better transmission.

You’ll be surprised how much better it drives. 9 months in on mine and it’s great

 

[bmidd]

You are correct. the 10R60 is rated for less power than a 10R80. They probably used the -80 in our trucks as more of a stop gap than anything. The -60 wasn't quite ready, so they dropped a couple clutches out of our -80 and went with it.

In a perfect world the -60 would be fine for our power levels.

10R60 is plenty strong for an Explorer ST with 480wtq, it's more than strong enough for the Ranger.

 

[VAMike]

10R60 is plenty strong for an Explorer ST with 480wtq, it's more than strong enough for the Ranger.

The 80 or 60 stand for 800N/m or 600N/m. That's 590lb-ft and 443lb-ft, respectively. The 60 is more than sufficient for the Explorer ST at 415lb-ft and the 80 is grossly overpowered for the 310ft-lb on our rangers. I agree with the commentary that the 10R60 just wasn't ready in 2019, so ford put in the existing 10R80 instead. I was actually happy with that decision as I expected that the 10R80 was over its teething pains having been in the f150 since 2017...but ford decided to play with the internals a bit so it was still kinda a new transmission. And, they still seem to be playing whack-a-mole with the 10R80 on the F150 also. I'm curious to see what new problems they've created for the 10R60.

 

[Langwilliams]

I'm curious to see what new problems they've created for the 10R60.

I'm in the Bronco forums an it doesn't seem to be a topic there so it seems to have been ironed out. The broncos don't tow like the rangers so in the long haul that may show up with the 10r60's in the rangers.

 

[VAMike]

I'm in the Bronco forums an it doesn't seem to be a topic there so it seems to have been ironed out. The broncos don't tow like the rangers so in the long haul that may show up with the 10r60's in the rangers.

The oldest broncos are 4 years old, and they didn't deliver very many in 2021. Volume production wasn't until 2q22, which means they're mostly just starting to hit 3 years. I'd say the jury is still out. I don't think there's really been a correlation between people reporting problems here and heavy towing, so I'm not sure that matters. FYI, there have been 10R60 TSBs for...basically the same crap the've been issuing TSBs for on the 10R80 for 8 years now...

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/attachments/tsb-23-2352-pdf.596433/

FWIW, I still don't know how bad the 10R80 is because we don't have access to good data. There could be a relatively few really noisy people with issues, or they could all be grenades waiting to blow up. We just don't know (which is, in itself, frustrating). The fact that ford now has a diagnostic procedure gives me some hope that they've actually figured out the issue, but I also hoped that after the last several TSBs. Only time will tell. It's also pretty telling that they didn't release the diagnostic procedure until after the 5 year powertrain ran out on the 2019s, and they didn't extend the warranty for something they've known about and have been jerking us around about almost from the start. Quality is job 7 or 8 or something.

 

[bmidd]

The 80 or 60 stand for 800N/m or 600N/m. That's 590lb-ft and 443lb-ft, respectively. The 60 is more than sufficient for the Explorer ST at 415lb-ft and the 80 is grossly overpowered for the 310ft-lb on our rangers. I agree with the commentary that the 10R60 just wasn't ready in 2019, so ford put in the existing 10R80 instead. I was actually happy with that decision as I expected that the 10R80 was over its teething pains having been in the f150 since 2017...but ford decided to play with the internals a bit so it was still kinda a new transmission. And, they still seem to be playing whack-a-mole with the 10R80 on the F150 also. I'm curious to see what new problems they've created for the 10R60.

We had a Valve body replacement on the ST 10R60@ just under 50k. I mashed the gas to merge on a highway and it lit the dash up, went into limp mode and gave us all the warnings. Pulled over, shut off and restarted car and dropped it off the next day. Took 2 weeks to fix.

 

[Zims4x4]

Good Morning All,
So after reading all the transmission issues i have an appointment for may 20th ( earliest they can get me in), mine was built in 06/22 and have about 59000 miles on it. I did install a Fitzstick beginning of the year. Should i put the old factory one back in? or leave it in?

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Good Morning All,
So after reading all the transmission issues i have an appointment for may 20th ( earliest they can get me in), mine was built in 06/22 and have about 59000 miles on it. I did install a Fitzstick beginning of the year. Should i put the old factory one back in? or leave it ?

The dealer had no issues with the Fitzstick when they replaced my transmission under warranty. They actually reinstalled it in the new transmission after they confirmed fluid level with the factory stick. I think they charged me $100 to swap it over and confirm fluid level. Money well spent in my mind.

 

[Chris M]

Sigh.....
I have an appointment to drop mine off Monday, May 5.
While I have not had the severe issues many here have had, I have had some very random weird shifting for several months now and paranoia has begun to run deep in my mind and so here I am with it.

 

[Langwilliams]

Good Morning All,
So after reading all the transmission issues i have an appointment for may 20th ( earliest they can get me in), mine was built in 06/22 and have about 59000 miles on it. I did install a Fitzstick beginning of the year. Should i put the old factory one back in? or leave it in?

If it's easy I probably would to avoid any attempts to deny a claim. You would probably win in the end but might slow down the process an make it a hassle.

 

[Racket]

Good Morning All,
So after reading all the transmission issues i have an appointment for may 20th ( earliest they can get me in), mine was built in 06/22 and I did install a Fitzstick beginning of the year. Should i put the old factory one back in? or leave it in?

Leave it but make sure they understand you want to get it back with any new transmission. It's engineered like a factory part.

 

[got3fords]

Good Morning All,
So after reading all the transmission issues i have an appointment for may 20th ( earliest they can get me in), mine was built in 06/22 and have about 59000 miles on it. I did install a Fitzstick beginning of the year. Should i put the old factory one back in? or leave it in?

I left mine in when I had them flush it, they never said a thing. Even when it had to go back because they over-filled it. They fixed it all up and said nothing about the dipstick.

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