Latest TSB for the 10R80

[Trustable]

Uhhhhh if you had your transmission replaced with the new transmissions, it may appear to have a new and different issue.

https://www.wdbj7.com/2025/03/24/fo...es-potentially-driving-forward-while-reverse/

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[Stevedbvik1]

Uhhhhh if you had your transmission replaced well the new transmissions appear to have a new and different issue.

https://www.wdbj7.com/2025/03/24/fo...es-potentially-driving-forward-while-reverse/

2024 Ranger has the 10R60 not the 10R80. Pretty sure the valve body is different

 

[ctechbob]

2024 Ranger has the 10R60 not the 10R80. Pretty sure the valve body is different

They're different, but not enough to make a difference. A whole lot of parts interchange:

 

[Stevedbvik1]

They're different, but not enough to make a difference. A whole lot of parts interchange:

Yeah, reading the NHTSA report they state that it’s for 10R80’s. They show 2 2024-2025 Rangers that fall into the recall. And 14 Broncos that fall into the recall. A total of 269 vehicles in total are being recalled. But the Rangers and Broncos have 10R60’s. Weird to say the least. It doesn’t state anything about service transmissions or service parts. Time frame appears to be November 2024-February 2025.

 

[Trustable]

2024 Ranger has the 10R60 not the 10R80. Pretty sure the valve body is different

Wait they downgraded the transmission for the new style?? Maybe I’m wrong, but baring the glaring issues with the 10r80s, isn’t it still the stronger transmission? I thought the 10r60s were just in explorers? I don’t pay much attention to ford specs anymore as just not interested in another vehicle from them - so it’s possible I am incorrect in my assumption.

 

[ctechbob]

Wait they downgraded the transmission for the new style?? Maybe I’m wrong, but baring the glaring issues with the 10r80s, isn’t it still the stronger transmission? I thought the 10r60s were just in explorers? I don’t pay much attention to ford specs anymore as just not interested in another vehicle from them - so it’s possible I am incorrect in my assumption.

You are correct. the 10R60 is rated for less power than a 10R80. They probably used the -80 in our trucks as more of a stop gap than anything. The -60 wasn't quite ready, so they dropped a couple clutches out of our -80 and went with it.

In a perfect world the -60 would be fine for our power levels.

 

[Trustable]

You are correct. the 10R60 is rated for less power than a 10R80. They probably used the -80 in our trucks as more of a stop gap than anything. The -60 wasn't quite ready, so they dropped a couple clutches out of our -80 and went with it.

In a perfect world the -60 would be fine for our power levels.

Interesting, thank you! based on the numbers of 10r80s in the full size trucks when I got the ranger, I figured it would be bullet proof with so many other vehicles having it

going to be calling the local dealer this or next week to see if they have the equipment to perform the test outlined in the TSB since they don’t have to actually drive it to tell anymore - as I have most the symptoms, but have just been waiting to have it either explode under warranty, be forced to buy the extended warranty, or be able to find a new vehicle I like to justify dumping it.

 

[shovelhd]

So it looks like they now do a ton of pressure tests to check for internal seal leaks, but they only replace the seals, not the "defective" CDF drum. I also didn't see that there's no escalation procedure, i.e. rebuild or replace the transmission. Did I miss this in all of the test instructions?

 

[shovelhd]

Yep just do it!

Even a diag. would be cheaper than a new/rebuilt transmission.

Did you get your truck back? What did they end up doing?

 

[airline tech]

So it looks like they now do a ton of pressure tests to check for internal seal leaks, but they only replace the seals, not the "defective" CDF drum. I also didn't see that there's no escalation procedure, i.e. rebuild or replace the transmission. Did I miss this in all of the test instructions?

Yes - You Missed it

37. Disassemble the C, D and F clutch assemblies from the CDF cylinder. Discard the CDF cylinder. Refer to WSM, Section 307 01. 38. Assemble the C, D and F clutch assemblies into the new CDF clutch cylinder. Refer to WSM, Section 307-01

 

[got3fords]

Yes - You Missed it

37. Disassemble the C, D and F clutch assemblies from the CDF cylinder. Discard the CDF cylinder. Refer to WSM, Section 307 01. 38. Assemble the C, D and F clutch assemblies into the new CDF clutch cylinder. Refer to WSM, Section 307-01

So this seams a lot less involved than rebuild or replace, it that correct?

 

[Stevedbvik1]

So it looks like they now do a ton of pressure tests to check for internal seal leaks, but they only replace the seals, not the "defective" CDF drum. I also didn't see that there's no escalation procedure, i.e. rebuild or replace the transmission. Did I miss this in all of the test instructions?

They replace the drum if test indicates. Also spell out the steps if tech finds other damage.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

So this seams a lot less involved than rebuild or replace, it that correct?

Target specific repair. But it does state at the beginning of the TSB steps that if the tech notes other issues to repair as necessary and how to code them on the claim.
“NOTE: If internal transmission service is required to address a concern detected with the CDF clutch cylinder following this
article, technicians should carefully inspect and replace other transmission components and flush transmission fluid cooler only as necessary to confirm proper function. Add a new line to the repair order to document any additional repairs needed. M-time can be claimed on the additional repair line to cover labor. Refer to Warranty and Policy Manual for additional information.
A thorough understanding of transmission description and operation will assist the technician with proper diagnosis, inspection, and successful repair of the customer concern.”

 

[Stevedbvik1]

So this seams a lot less involved than rebuild or replace, it that correct?

I also believe that the dealer can get approval to replace the transmission if extra issues are noted for low time/milage vehicles. But thats not specifically stated in the TSB. But there have been transmissions replaced under this TSB according to posts on this forum

 

[Vr22s]

Did you get your truck back? What did they end up doing?

Still at the dealer. After they did the diag., they decided that it wasn't worth the trouble to pull the Transmission apart and see if it could be rebuilt and decided to just order a brand new one.
They are just waiting for the transmission to get there to pull the old one out and install the replacement.


When they did the diag. I asked how they performed it. They said the tech plugged in their scan tool in and drove it around while recording the different pressures within the transmission.
Funny thing is I came picked it up for another week before I dropped it off again for them to work on it and it shifted even worse than when I dropped it off.

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