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I'd like to hear back what you avg after getting the speedometer recalibrated for the tire size. I usually avg around 22 in warm weather an 19-20 in the winter. I don't hammer it often but it is fun so I do it a few times a week. I plan on lifting my ranger 2-2.5" an adding 265/70/17 tires an I'm watching the tire weight to be as close to the factory weight as possible. I have the livernois tuner an ran the 87-89 tune for about 1500 miles an have run the 91-93 for the last 3000 or so. seems like I get the same mileage out of both tunes. I think it might be because I don't have to get on the gas as much to get the acceleration I want. It might be a fraction better with the tune than stock but getting the power increase without a mpg penalty makes the tune worth the price IMO. Livernois won't claim an mpg improvement because they say there are so many veritables in driving style, use an fuel quality it would be hard to prove.

You should put a fuel economy tracker or speedometer app on your phone...fill the truck up an track mileage with an app an figure out the mpg that way. I had a Harley without a speedometer an I used my phone as one until I got the feel for the speeds I was going. I never used the tripometer feature though.
I'll let you know. It might be a while. Not an easy sales pitch to my wife to get wheels and tires right after buying the truck so I might just run through these tires and then switch to some AT's. What kind are you going to go with? I'm leaning towards Toyo's or Cooper's.
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I was referring to filling up, tracking the miles by gps an filling up again to get a more accurate mpg.

I'm looking at this one...it's not a long wear tire but divide the price by miles expected it's a good deal. I don't haul much or offroad much so I don't need a tough tire.
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/trailfinder-all-terrain/p/32707

here's the front runner: https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/nitto-terra-grappler-g2

this one is 2 lbs lighter than the nitto so it's in consideration https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/toyo-tire-open-country-a-t-iii

according to tirerack.com my current factory tire is 34 pounds.

if you plan on serious off roading you might want to deal with a heavier tire an take the hit so you don't damage the sidewall.
 
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I was referring to filling up, tracking the miles by gps an filling up again to get a more accurate mpg.

I'm looking at this one...it's not a long wear tire but divide the price by miles expected it's a good deal. I don't haul much or offroad much so I don't need a tough tire.
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/trailfinder-all-terrain/p/32707

here's the front runner: https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/nitto-terra-grappler-g2

this one is 2 lbs lighter than the nitto so it's in consideration https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tires/toyo-tire-open-country-a-t-iii

according to tirerack.com my current factory tire is 34 pounds.

if you plan on serious off roading you might want to deal with a heavier tire an take the hit so you don't damage the sidewall.
I'm definitely eyeing the Toyo's. I have some friends that swear by them. I don't do crazy off-roading but definitely a lot of rough dirt roads and trails here in Utah + the snow so I want some decent tread.

I'll use my phone to track my next fill-up. That will be a good baseline as I hunt some extra MPGs
 

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What is the best bang for your buck to aid MPG?
Try using the cruise control and using it a lot, even in town.

I use ours all the time and Ranger Smith has averaged over 25 mpg, we now have over 13,000 miles on the truck.

Also, via using "resume", the truck will teach you what rate of acceleration you should be doing to get up to speed and maintain good mpg.

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I hate to open up this can of worms again. But you'll improve your mileage buy changing your motor oil, transmission fluid and diff fluids to Amsoil. Plus you should see a power improvement when you do put the pedal down.

On another note regarding mileage. You problem is equivalent to someone's peave I saw on YouTube. Except his was with towing. He was excited that his Ranger could tow 7500 lbs..,...until he did lol. That lil 2.3 can pull it, but his mileage suffered big time. As it does towing with anything. But his Ranger towing mileage was horrible.
 


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I hate to open up this can of worms again. But you'll improve your mileage buy changing your motor oil, transmission fluid and diff fluids to Amsoil. Plus you should see a power improvement when you do put the pedal down.

On another note regarding mileage. You problem is equivalent to someone's peave I saw on YouTube. Except his was with towing. He was excited that his Ranger could tow 7500 lbs..,...until he did lol. That lil 2.3 can pull it, but his mileage suffered big time. As it does towing with anything. But his Ranger towing mileage was horrible.
Transmission fluid doesn't need changed until 100,000 miles. But, OK, I'll bite.

Let's assume the OP won't change the transmission fluid, but will change the motor oil and differential fluids.

Will the improvement in mpg save the OP enough money in gasoline to offset the price difference between using Amsoil versus Ford recommended Motorcraft lubricants?

If the answer is no, what benefit is Amsoil to the OP?
 

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I hate to open up this can of worms again. But you'll improve your mileage buy changing your motor oil, transmission fluid and diff fluids to Amsoil. Plus you should see a power improvement when you do put the pedal down.

On another note regarding mileage. You problem is equivalent to someone's peave I saw on YouTube. Except his was with towing. He was excited that his Ranger could tow 7500 lbs..,...until he did lol. That lil 2.3 can pull it, but his mileage suffered big time. As it does towing with anything. But his Ranger towing mileage was horrible.
Ah, I was wondering how long before the Amsoil sales pitch. Didn't take too long only 19 posts. Now we get a performance increase as well as better mileage. Does it keep my truck cleaner as well.:shock:
 

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I do almost 100% of my driving around town and seemingly all short trips my commute to work is right at 2 miles each way and the grocery store is about 1.5 miles. I also have a bit of an aggressive driving style. With that said when I was checking my MPG it was about 14mpg, not a big deal since a tank of gas will last me 3-4 weeks. I have taken a few trips and did notice highway driving my MPG jumped right up to 21-23mpg. I chocked it up to the Ranger just isn't real economical in town, or at least for me it isn't, but I bought a truck and not a Prius and I really enjoy driving the Ranger.
 

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OP please report back with your findings as to what helped or didn't help when you get the opportunity to try something

Lighter tires will help heavier rotating mass will take more power to get going. Another big thing is driving for the conditions ahead by anticipating lights or people stopping or turning in front of you . I know easier said then done. The longer you can keep the truck rolling vs, stopping then rolling again will help out a bunch as well. Idling and City driving are 2 big MPG killers on this truck.

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Transmission fluid doesn't need changed until 100,000 miles. But, OK, I'll bite.

Let's assume the OP won't change the transmission fluid, but will change the motor oil and differential fluids.

Will the improvement in mpg save the OP enough money in gasoline to offset the price difference between using Amsoil versus Ford recommended Motorcraft lubricants?
First off, a lawyer wrote 100 000 drain interval in your owner's manual. Not a
If the answer is no, what benefit is Amsoil to the OP?
Transmission fluid doesn't need changed until 100,000 miles. But, OK, I'll bite.

Let's assume the OP won't change the transmission fluid, but will change the motor oil and differential fluids.

Will the improvement in mpg save the OP enough money in gasoline to offset the price difference between using Amsoil versus Ford recommended Motorcraft lubricants?

If the answer is no, what benefit is Amsoil to the OP?
First off, a lawyer wrote 100 000 drain interval in your owner's manual lol. Not an oil specialist.
Manufacturers oils are subpar at best. It's just a contracted out item. Car companies are huge, but not big enough that they refine they're own oil. Your getting blended fluids, synthetic and conventional (crude) in the bottle.
To answer your question, Yes, you save with Amsoil. With its extended drain intervals alone. It's 100% synthetic. Other cost savings include the fact that it maintains its viscosity at operating temps. (Others don't). That gives you better fuel economy, and power. It stays cooler at operating temps compared to other oils. It's synthetic detergents keep sludge out of your engine/trans/diffs which improves fuel economy.
 

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First off, a lawyer wrote 100 000 drain interval in your owner's manual lol. Not an oil specialist.
Manufacturers oils are subpar at best. It's just a contracted out item. Car companies are huge, but not big enough that they refine they're own oil. Your getting blended fluids, synthetic and conventional (crude) in the bottle.
To answer your question, Yes, you save with Amsoil. With its extended drain intervals alone. It's 100% synthetic. Other cost savings include the fact that it maintains its viscosity at operating temps. (Others don't). That gives you better fuel economy, and power. It stays cooler at operating temps compared to other oils. It's synthetic detergents keep sludge out of your engine/trans/diffs which improves fuel economy.
Ford states 10,000 mile motor oil change interval (or once a year) for Motorcraft synthetic blend. What does Amsoil state for the oil change interval?

I'd like to put some actual numbers together to see if an owner really does save.
 

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This spring I'm going to change the rear diff fluid to moble 1 syn. The threads on here say it's really dirty after 10-12 k of miles most likely from break in. So far I've probably driven 30 miles total in 4 wheel drive. The posts said the front fluid looked like new so I won't change that until next spring.

I've heard good things about the ford trans fluid but I won't wait 100 K to change it, probably around 50K.

I know they run engineering tests on all the change intervals but I think some of the bean counters get involved in it too. Showing 10K oil changes an 100K trans fluid changes an lifetime coolant they can pitch it as a low maint cost vehicle. European makers show even longer oil change intervals....I don't know if it's a cost saver to them or a green vehicle thing...their oil has different specs an costs a lot more per quart.
 

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First off, a lawyer wrote 100 000 drain interval in your owner's manual lol. Not an oil specialist.
Manufacturers oils are subpar at best. It's just a contracted out item. Car companies are huge, but not big enough that they refine they're own oil. Your getting blended fluids, synthetic and conventional (crude) in the bottle.
To answer your question, Yes, you save with Amsoil. With its extended drain intervals alone. It's 100% synthetic. Other cost savings include the fact that it maintains its viscosity at operating temps. (Others don't). That gives you better fuel economy, and power. It stays cooler at operating temps compared to other oils. It's synthetic detergents keep sludge out of your engine/trans/diffs which improves fuel economy.
Wow! Spoken like a true Amsoil fan boy, do you pay dues to be in that club or is just toting the company line enough.

First off, how do you know who wrote the fluid drain intervals with or without what technical input? Calling manufacturer oils subpar is a pretty broad and blatant statement. Yes the Ford recommended oil is a synthetic blend not a full synthetic oil. Yes car companies do not own refineries and neither does Amsoil, Their fluids are blends of products from various producers.

Second, you claim change intervals in excess of manufacture listed numbers. That can be a warranty breaker. Where is the testing data from independent sources to support/verify this. Most of us use full synthetic oil anyway so that is a non-argument. The rest of the statements in this paragraph are company claims that you have not shown us any third party independent verification for.

Most of the us who care about our vehicles enough to even consider paying the price for Amsoil products do not even think of running our fluids to the manufactures change intervals, much less the ones you are claiming. They don't wear out they get dirty. Amsoil will not, can not, stay any cleaner than any other oil/fluid brand. The contaminants are what causes extra unnecessary wear and tear.

As I was taught in my Kepner Tregoe training, without data you don't have a problem and one data point does not make a trend. So, unless you can give us scientific third party evidence of all you claims. Please quit toting it as some kind of miracle fluid that nobody else has.

Sorry to everyone for ranting, maybe it's the isolation, but this really gets to me. Give me facts and not seat of the pants impressions. I quest it is the retired designer/engineer in me.
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