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“Is he walking towards his Ranger?”

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It sure feels like that when you step near it and the fuel pump starts going. PS. I don't have the proximity key... ?
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I VERY Carefully snaked my hand down to the module with it running and rocked it back and forth, all that I feel is the slight vibration of the shaft spinning in the module.
PLEASE DO NOT TRY THIS - It is dangerous procedure.
Not as dangerous as crawling underneath a twin Piper with 540cui engines to check something that requires them to be running. Scary, but boy the sound of that exhaust was awesome! I used to be a general aviation mechanic.
 

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Not as dangerous as crawling underneath a twin Piper with 540cui engines to check something that requires them to be running. Scary, but boy the sound of that exhaust was awesome! I used to be a general aviation mechanic.
Still a common practice/ need even in commercial aviation, mostly for leak checks after maintenance.
As long as you keep engine at idle and keep your body inside the safety area it is safe.
It is still a dangerous part of the job and mechanics have made an error and been sucked in - the 737 engine is the most dangerous as the engine inlet is lower to the ground.
 

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As long as you get somewhere close to the OE length, I don't think it matters.
The OE hose is a formed hose, and cannot be purchased separately from Ford, it is part of the Fan Clutch assembly.
So, you have to have a little longer hose to fabricate a replacement.

At one point I thought it was imperative to have an exact match and get the module in the exact mounting position but decided that was not necessary as the module is just a Hall Effect Sensor.
It is picking up rotation speed of the fan from the back of the clutch.
Fan Speed Sensor - it uses this input to tell the PCM what the speed is and then the PCM uses that input to (PWM- Pulse Width Modulate) the internal fluid movement for the actual speed control.

So as far as I can tell, hose length will determine the actual resting position of the module, but it does not affect the actual job of the module as it will still pick up rotational speed.
I bought a foot of 3/8 " fuel line hose this afternoon and will change it tomorrow. Thanks!
 

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Still a common practice/ need even in commercial aviation, mostly for leak checks after maintenance.
As long as you keep engine at idle and keep your body inside the safety area it is safe.
It is still a dangerous part of the job and mechanics have made an error and been sucked in - the 737 engine is the most dangerous as the engine inlet is lower to the ground.
Then, of course, there’s the inlet on the A6….

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Then, of course, there’s the inlet on the A6….

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Luckily, this guy survived...not so much for ramp workers who've walk in front of commercial airlines...wood chippers are no match for turbofans...
 

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This is what I envision every time I am under a B-737 engine that is running.
This was a On-Call Contract Maintenance Event in - El-Passo

I have not seen the full detailed report on why the engine run (that I remember anyway) was needed or if the flight crew ran it above idle, they were at the gate- so if above ide it was not much above it.
If they were following procedures (Safety)
Since this was a Contract Maintenance Event - Most On-Call (Contract) are not Engine Run Qualified so this would have been the Flight Crew performing the Engine Run and the Mechanic down at the engine

Caution: Not for the Squimish

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This is what I envision every time I am under a B-737 engine that is running.
This was a On-Call Contract Maintenance Event in - El-Passo

I have not seen the full detailed report on why the engine run (that I remember anyway) was needed or if the flight crew ran it above idle, they were at the gate- so if above ide it was not much above it.
If they were following procedures (Safety)
Since this was a Contract Maintenance Event - Most On-Call (Contract) are not Engine Run Qualified so this would have been the Flight Crew performing the Engine Run and the Mechanic down at the engine

Caution: Not for the Squimish

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Holy Crap! Probably quick merciful death...Yikes...
 

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Thank you all for the responses. I'll just replace the hose myself.

Duke, I apologize. Despite only being 25, I can never seem to get the search function to show me what I'm looking for. I'll probably spend some time this weekend looking up obscure topics and problems to try to master it. Better to learn it before I'm stuck on the side of the road looking for an answer in the middle of a thread that goes off topic on tailgate dampers.
You’re not alone on search results and I’m 63 and tech savvy. I suck it up and post my question and the Post Patrol Officers quickly point out the errors in my ways but I get an answer.
 

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How much do you want to bet it used to be a metal bracket and someone in Australia did a field repair with a piece of hose and Ford went ?
I don't know how often a solution is like this used in other vehicles/manufacturers but it certainly looks like a Mickey Mouse idea.
 

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This particular hose is not like any return hose I can remember on past cars/trucks. It is gonna be a b***h and a half to access/replace it. Please tell me I’m wrong.
 

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This particular hose is not like any return hose I can remember on past cars/trucks. It is gonna be a b***h and a half to access/replace it. Please tell me I’m wrong.
By the way, that new scout is looking better every day. It’s appalling that I’d have to replace a hose on a 5 year old truck w 35k miles on it.
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