Anyone consider a V8 swap yet?

[mgallo13]

Just figured yall would like this!

forgot where this was posted on here, but I believe I broached the subject of a godzilla swap v a coyote swap and I decided after weighing the pro's and con's that yes.

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[D Fresh]

forgot where this was posted on here, but I believe I broached the subject of a godzilla swap v a coyote swap and I decided after weighing the pro's and con's that yes.

Barra swap.

Gotta keep 'er Australian.

 

[Venom_z89]

 

[bill_AUS]

Honestly if I were to do a swap on the truck it would be the 3.2l diesel from Ford? Why you ask? Well they already have it in Australia and it works well!! I wish they would have put it in as an option here but who can say why. I got to drive a Transit with the 3.2l and I could tell the power output is nice and can work well for the Ranger.

The 3.2 isn't exactly a stellar engine, they can be a bit of a wildcard reliability wise. Some last a long time, others blow up in the first 50,000km. The turbochargers are also weak on them post 2015 (the bearing was made smaller). Combine that with an oil pump that doesn't prime itself and the oil drains back (you've got 15 minutes to change the oil otherwise you won't have oil pressure). It wasn't offered in the US because it is about to be discontinued for the rest of the world also. You'd hate it:
It doesn't make much power, uses a reasonable amount of fuel (22 mpg vs 28 for the 2L BiTurbo) and is pretty agricultural as far as refinement is concerned. The new 2L BiTurbo diesel is a far nice engine to drive and own, especially with the 10 speed (I've got one of each in the family).

 

[Trigganometry]

I would think if you did a front level in one of our Rangers and then dropped in a V8 with all the additional hardware that you yield you a factory delivered height stance again.

Would be fun though!

 

[Frenchy]

The 3.2 isn't exactly a stellar engine, they can be a bit of a wildcard reliability wise. Some last a long time, others blow up in the first 50,000km. The turbochargers are also weak on them post 2015 (the bearing was made smaller). Combine that with an oil pump that doesn't prime itself and the oil drains back (you've got 15 minutes to change the oil otherwise you won't have oil pressure). It wasn't offered in the US because it is about to be discontinued for the rest of the world also. You'd hate it:
It doesn't make much power, uses a reasonable amount of fuel (22 mpg vs 28 for the 2L BiTurbo) and is pretty agricultural as far as refinement is concerned. The new 2L BiTurbo diesel is a far nice engine to drive and own, especially with the 10 speed (I've got one of each in the family).

I actually got to drive a Transit van out here in the United States with the 3.2 L. Mind you I did pay attention to the powerband and I actually liked it. It had what was known as a Workhorse power plant. With that said it is a truck that we have so a Workhorse power plant would actually be pretty nice. How efficient was it out here? Pretty good in the transit so I could imagine similar results with the 3.2 l in the Ranger. But doesn't mean I wouldn't be opposed to having the two liter biturbo out here either since we already have a 4-cylinder and that would fit directly and without any other issues.

 

[Frenchy]

One thing to also consider with diesel. Most diesel owners out here in the United States or what I like to call yuppies that don't know anything. Why is that? Well because they don't understand that a diesel is designed to work. When you buy a truck that has a big V8 Diesel chances are the truck doesn't weigh enough to really load the engine up enough for it to work that's why you get that massive tell rating and I'm sure the same rule applies out there in Australia and other countries that have diesel. Now you're asking what about the vehicles like Volkswagen that have 4 cylinder turbo diesels and do just fine? Well the car is real damn heavy and the engine is very small. Car manufacturer get the right calculations to make that engine last for a long time without having to add extra weight. With that said that's probably the reason why we have the buy turbo diesel option for the ranger across the world. Actually I wish you was brought out out here in the United States but it is what it is.

 

[bill_AUS]

With that said that's probably the reason why we have the buy turbo diesel option for the ranger across the world. Actually I wish you was brought out out here in the United States but it is what it is.

The other thing to remember, diesel engines are more expensive to manufacture and across most of the US diesel is more expensive than gasoline. In Australia, diesel fuel is usually cheaper, and in some remote areas you can't buy petrol/gasoline at all.
Diesel also has some pretty tight emissions rules in the US, which doesn't help. In Australia our Rangers don't need DEF, as the rules are less tight on NOx emissions.

Given the F-150 Power Stroke is no longer available, I'd say the chances of a diesel Ranger or Bronco being released in the US are effectively zero.

 

[bill_AUS]

You better start saving your pennies Alex, the Power Stroke 3L is at this point almost certainly going to be in the next Ranger and Everest.

 

[Frenchy]

The other thing to remember, diesel engines are more expensive to manufacture and across most of the US diesel is more expensive than gasoline. In Australia, diesel fuel is usually cheaper, and in some remote areas you can't buy petrol/gasoline at all.
Diesel also has some pretty tight emissions rules in the US, which doesn't help. In Australia our Rangers don't need DEF, as the rules are less tight on NOx emissions.

Given the F-150 Power Stroke is no longer available, I'd say the chances of a diesel Ranger or Bronco being released in the US are effectively zero.

Higher maintenance? Absolutely. Higher cost in fuel? Depends on where you are in the US. DEF? For new trucks(cant remember when it started) unfortunately true and it isnt a perfect system.

With that said Diesel can still be worth it in the US and anywhere else depending on what you are using it for.

So in a sense you are not wrong

 

[bill_AUS]

Higher maintenance? Absolutely. Higher cost in fuel? Depends on where you are in the US. DEF? For new trucks(cant remember when it started) unfortunately true and it isnt a perfect system.

With that said Diesel can still be worth it in the US and anywhere else depending on what you are using it for.

So in a sense you are not wrong

I totally get that a diesel would be a great option for a number buyers in the US, but it's probably a pretty small % unfortunately. And the fact you can't import one doesn't help anything (under 20 years or whatever).

 

[bill_AUS]

From what I can tell this article is probably barking up the right tree:

https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-news/2023-ford-ranger-raptor-to-use-twin-turbo-3-0-litre-v6-report

 

[JohnnyO]

Considering & actually HAVING the capital and or skills to do such a thing are two COMPLETELY different things lol.

I've CONSIDERED having a supermodel girlfriend before, however... we come back around to having the required capital and skills ?

That's the thing. With late model cars the main issue isn't bolting in a different engine, it's getting all the electronics to work.
1. Do you have a degree in electrical engineering?
2. Do you have cubic dollars to drop it off at Roush or Brenspeed and have them do the swap?

 

[SteelWheelDeplorable]

V8 would be cool, but i'm going the other direction to make my Ranger slower lol.
Looking at how hard it would be to swap in a Kubota, 4BT or Cummins R2.8 and converting to a manual transmission, Im sure it'll be very hard haha.

 

[project.tessie.19]

Honestly, I think a Coyote swap would be easier than a 3.5 or 2.7 EB. As big as the 'yote is, the twin turbos and piping eat up space in a hurry.

Exhaust manifold clearance will likely be the make/break issue.

For those that think the 5G Ranger's engine bay is tight, try stuffing a 302 into the previous US Ranger! The 303 is only 19" wide and still is a stupid tight fit.

Plenty of room for the top half but dumb stuff like a water pump, oil pan and exhaust get problematic.

There’s been a few guys who have done it already. one of the guys is in australia with a 2019 ranger. they didn’t have to cut anything to make it happen. they actually sell them and they sell the plans. they were to make all of the electronics work as well. super cool build.

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