And There I was at the Charging Station

[Old NaCl]

You can make just about any carbureted(sp?) engine run on propane. That was a popular modification in the old Toyota (84 and older) rock crawler groups.

My did it with a 80s (maybe 84) era Econoline think it was inline 6. We used a ball valve to control speed with a 100lb propane tank strapped behind the drivers seat.
Looking back was not the safest thing to do.

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[NotBudule]

Exactly the reason he does 't accept PMs.

Now , Tito , on the other hand , he gets pretty chatty late at night (when dads asleep I think he can reach the scotch ! ) He's pretty cool , one you through his tough exterior , he doesn't get the "CAP LOCK" thingy either , always yelling , but TOM DEE gets a pass so why not Tito ?


( I bet Phil unblocks me now boys !!!)


Please excuse my April Foolery, it's a big day for me !

 

[Figarou]

Finally found what I was looking for. A close up of the tank itself.

It's CNG. Compressed Natural Gas. Not propane.

And here's an article that debunks the rumor that the vehicle was electric.

https://www.thejournal.ie/did-an-electric-car-explode-killing-someone-in-uzbekistan-6033127-Mar2023/

 

[Wytchdctr]

I didn't think anything is more dangerous or environmentally detrimental than owning an EV .

Riding a cow with mad cow disease that also has serious gas issues.

 

[got3fords]

The school buses in my hometown in Ohio ran on LPG in the 70's and 80's. It was nice, no nasty diesel exhaust smell.

 

[Cmar]

I had both a Ford Falcon and a Bronco that were converted to LPG ( propane) back in the 1980's and 90's. They both cost me practically nothing to run. At that time a significant amount of Australia's petrol came from undersea wells in Bass strait, between Australian mainland and the island state of Tasmania - where Tassie devils reside.
Anyway apparently this crude was excessively "gassy" and in those days they practically gave propane away as an unwanted waste product, and there was no government tax on it. Unfortunately the stupid government decided this wasn't right and decided to tax it - when used as auto fuel, at the same rate as petrol and diesel. This practically overnight killed off a large aftermarket conversion industry, and stopped people using a safe, clean burning fuel. Ford over here at that time even released an LPG only Falcon model. Taxi owners bought them in droves, with clean burning propane, and the durable Ford Barra 4.0 straight 6 in taxi use it wasn't unknown to literally get 1,000,000 kilometers out of one without a rebuild. It will never recover now as e-vehicles have effectively fill that gap and propane has gone back to being camping fuel.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

I had both a Ford Falcon and a Bronco that were converted to LPG ( propane) back in the 1980's and 90's. They both cost me practically nothing to run. At that time a significant amount of Australia's petrol came from undersea wells in Bass strait, between Australian mainland and the island state of Tasmania - where Tassie devils reside.
Anyway apparently this crude was excessively "gassy" and in those days they practically gave propane away as an unwanted waste product, and there was no government tax on it. Unfortunately the stupid government decided this wasn't right and decided to tax it - when used as auto fuel, at the same rate as petrol and diesel. This practically overnight killed off a large aftermarket conversion industry, and stopped people using a safe, clean burning fuel. Ford over here at that time even released an LPG only Falcon model. Taxi owners bought them in droves, with clean burning propane, and the durable Ford Barra 4.0 straight 6 in taxi use it wasn't unknown to literally get 1,000,000 kilometers out of one without a rebuild. It will never recover now as e-vehicles have effectively fill that gap and propane has gone back to being camping fuel.

Hi Cam,

I use propane in my enclosed area of backyard as a weed burner as I do not use chemicals in areas where our Tortoise, Tito, roams... I use a plumbing torch to burn the offending weeds.

best,
Phil

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

I had both a Ford Falcon and a Bronco that were converted to LPG ( propane) back in the 1980's and 90's. They both cost me practically nothing to run. At that time a significant amount of Australia's petrol came from undersea wells in Bass strait, between Australian mainland and the island state of Tasmania - where Tassie devils reside.
Anyway apparently this crude was excessively "gassy" and in those days they practically gave propane away as an unwanted waste product, and there was no government tax on it. Unfortunately the stupid government decided this wasn't right and decided to tax it - when used as auto fuel, at the same rate as petrol and diesel. This practically overnight killed off a large aftermarket conversion industry, and stopped people using a safe, clean burning fuel. Ford over here at that time even released an LPG only Falcon model. Taxi owners bought them in droves, with clean burning propane, and the durable Ford Barra 4.0 straight 6 in taxi use it wasn't unknown to literally get 1,000,000 kilometers out of one without a rebuild. It will never recover now as e-vehicles have effectively fill that gap and propane has gone back to being camping fuel.

Natural Gas and Propane conversions were a thing for a while in Alberta in the late 70s. Taxi companies and large fleet operators were the big early adopters and Propane became the standard conversion. It was certainly pricey and the ROI for a single vehicle would have been a long wait.

There were government incentives for converting but I think they lifted the one for natural gas when they realized folks didn’t have to fill up through a distribution network where the fuel was being taxed and could simply fill their vehicles from their home’s natural gas line with the proper appliance.

 

[GTGallop]

Pardon my ignorance, but you have to charge a propane car? Just assumed it was EV

Internet being what it is, and this coming form overseas...
I've heard of the word "charge" being used with other pressurized gasses like Freon. I'm thinking something got lost in translation between the Uzbek words for filling with fuel and the EV Craze.

But it did look like the battery was connected to something so maybe the 12v battery was under going some testing / maintenance?

 

[NeilP]

Before I retired and escaped CA, I worked for the CHP as a MCS-1. One part of my job was to inspect & certify the school buses in my area. CNG was becoming the latest earth saving measure that CARB was shoving down the throats of the school bus industry.

Those CNG buses were a joke. The tanks were pressurized up to 3600 PSI, and on the school bus, they were mounted under the body. (Talk about a IED under your feet) The tanks were wrapped in many layers of fiberglass to help restrict how much the tanks would (flex) expand when refilled. There was a lengthy check list of things that had to be examined on a regular basis. If there was an impact mark (from a rock etc) it had to be measured and documented. If it was of a specific diameter or depth, the tank had to be removed and destroyed. If I recall correctly, the tanks had a 20 year life span and it would cost more than the bus was worth to replace them. They tried using a couple of them on field trips but quickly discovered that they could not make the round trip of 160 miles. Refueling them took several hours and the compressor station was out of commission more than it was in service.

 

[Kristina]

A month ago we had here one CNG car explosion. Seat. The balloon was found 200 meters from car, a driver inside got out without injuries.

About LP, propane. My car runs with it plus petrol. Very low cost driving.
Some people even combine PHEV and LP which in some cases is not very good idea and later fixing the car is not cheap. But who listens before the trouble is real.

CNG car explosion.



In this article you find closer video how the driver leaves car.

https://auto.geenius.ee/rubriik/uudis/video-tallinnas-plahvatas-tanklas-soiduauto-cng-balloon/

 

[GitRDone]

Off topic, but I was at a Wawa recently and noticed charging stations in the back where two Teslas were parked. One of the owners approached me to borrow some jumper cables. Now that's ironic, I told him. Not sure he got the joke though. Darn millenials.

 

[subquark]

Yup.

And here's how you can put a "charge" on your credit card. ?

Dang, where can I get that credit card charger?

Ever since joining this forum, my credit card's been running on empty!

I assume it's a USB-C(ash)?

 

[subquark]

Yeah same here. I laughed only because it looked like something you'd see in a cartoon.
The guys safely separated by a solid wall but then gets hit by by debris bouncing back at him from a fr wall. The screen shot image of him up in the air with arms and legs splayed out looked comical.
Hopefully, he's OK. Looks like it hit him broadside and just scared the bejeesus out of him.

Edit...yikes, I didn't realize he died

I thought for sure it was a fake video, sheesh!

 

[dtech]

Ultimately I view it

Internet being what it is, and this coming form overseas...
I've heard of the word "charge" being used with other pressurized gasses like Freon. I'm thinking something got lost in translation between the Uzbek words for filling with fuel and the EV Craze.

But it did look like the battery was connected to something so maybe the 12v battery was under going some testing / maintenance?

Perhaps it was a "one size fits all" type of fueling station

Finally found what I was looking for. A close up of the tank itself.

It's CNG. Compressed Natural Gas. Not propane.

And here's an article that debunks the rumor that the vehicle was electric.

https://www.thejournal.ie/did-an-electric-car-explode-killing-someone-in-uzbekistan-6033127-Mar2023/

What's that hissing sound I'm still hearing, can't be the cng tank anymore - could it be air escaping from the anti EV crowd balloons ?

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