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I just took my new 2020 XLT FX4 in for its initial 5k oil change to the dealer. I used 11,000 for pass points for the change which is cool.

I noticed that the oil life was at around 54% when I took it in. This would imply that Ford recommends oil changes around every 9-11,000 miles.

Does this sound like an interval which is too much? I can't imagine that Ford would be recommending intervals which are too long given that they could make more money with shorter intervals. Thoughts?
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I just took my new 2020 XLT FX4 in for its initial 5k oil change to the dealer. I used 11,000 for pass points for the change which is cool.

I noticed that the oil life was at around 54% when I took it in. This would imply that Ford recommends oil changes around every 9-11,000 miles.

Does this sound like an interval which is too much? I can't imagine that Ford would be recommending intervals which are too long given that they could make more money with shorter intervals. Thoughts?
You've got to understand, the maint. schedule comes from marketing not engineering. I use synthetic and the IOLM @ 75%. That's just what I do.
 
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You've got to understand, the maint. schedule comes from marketing not engineering. I use synthetic and the IOLM @ 75%. That's just what I do.
If the MX schedule comes from marketing why would they lengthen the MX intervals if that shorts the service departments money? That seems counterintuitive?
 

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If the MX schedule comes from marketing why would they lengthen the MX intervals if that shorts the service departments money? That seems counterintuitive?
You're speaking dealer level vs corporate. Frankly thats not their main consideration. Corporate marketing is concerned with convincing you that ALL you will have to do is an occasional oil change for 100k miles and cost of maint is Very low. Engineering also provides a severe service schedule that damn near anything you do( frequent short trips or dusty conditions etc) is then required.
 


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You're speaking dealer level vs corporate. Frankly thats not their main consideration. Corporate marketing is concerned with convincing you that ALL you will have to do is an occasional oil change for 100k miles and cost of maint is Very low. Engineering also provides a severe service schedule that damn near anything you do( frequent short trips or dusty conditions etc) is then required.
I can see that point of view and that makes sense. However, wouldn't the electronic "oil life" thing take into consideration the short trips and cold weather that could make oil more inefficient?
 

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I’ve had a multitude of vehicles. Those with dino oil got changed at 5k. Those with synthetic got changed either at 7.5k or 10k. Oil analysis from multiple companies always suggested oil change interval could be extended. Now I’ve never been a person that subjected the vehicles to harsh conditions, this is just what has worked for me. Everyone needs to make their own decision on what works best for them. Take care
 

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I can see that point of view and that makes sense. However, wouldn't the electronic "oil life" thing take into consideration the short trips and cold weather that could make oil more inefficient?
It's algorithm can take some of that into account. You have an FX4 and I assume some offroad. It has no way of knowing that you are on a dusty offroad trail or driving thru a mall parking lot. I don't believe any of us here are stretching it too far.
 
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It's algorithm can take some of that into account. You have an FX4 and I assume some offroad. It has no way of knowing that you are on a dusty offroad trail or driving thru a mall parking lot. I don't believe any of us here are stretching it too far.
Good points, I appreciate all the feedback! I do a little offroading, nothing to write home about. I do like all the input though!
 

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Turbos are hard on oil. Direct injection is hard on oil. Mostly 7500 or so for me, when I was commuting 110 miles a day, I’d go 10k because the oil was barely 2 months old before I’d get there.
 

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You've got to understand, the maint. schedule comes from marketing not engineering. I use synthetic and the IOLM @ 75%. That's just what I do.
As an engineer, who has set a handful of maintenance schedules on products I create and work on, I disagree with your claim based purely on my professional experience. I tend to trust the recommended maintenance schedule on pretty much anything. They designed the product, so they know the best about what needs to be done when and how often. They've done the exhaustive testing and know what's best. Ford wouldn't publish a schedule that would damage or not meet the regulations and requirements for the vehicle. No ethical engineer would allow numbers to be published which would put the user at risk.

In the end, it's your truck and you can ultimately do what you want. Change everything every 1000 miles if you want. It's your time and money. But as an engineer, I'm perfectly comfortable just following the published maintenance schedule in the manual, online, and what the truck tells me needs to be done.
 

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I just took my new 2020 XLT FX4 in for its initial 5k oil change to the dealer. I used 11,000 for pass points for the change which is cool.

I noticed that the oil life was at around 54% when I took it in. This would imply that Ford recommends oil changes around every 9-11,000 miles.

Does this sound like an interval which is too much? I can't imagine that Ford would be recommending intervals which are too long given that they could make more money with shorter intervals. Thoughts?

Oil manufacturers rate their oil to go that long. If you live in a hot and dusty (desert) area, that would shorten that interval, so would off-roading. Keep in mind though, oil is cheap, engines aren't. Peace of mind goes a long way.
 

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Ford States in the owners manual that the oil changes can(key word) go up to 10,000 miles depending on conditions. Personally I prefer to do 5,000 mile oil changes with my truck and thats just to keep things in shape.
 

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It’s positively foolish to think a 2.5l na engine In a fusion should have the same oil change interval as a 2.3l di turbocharged engine in a truck which both are using the same oil.
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