Transmission - Lubeguard

[TJC]

I just completed an engine oil change and transmission fluid change. I let the truck sit overnight and again pumped out 7.5 Quarts of fluid. This is exactly the same amount of fluid I removed on the first fluid change when I let the truck sit overnight. On my 2nd fluid change I did not let the truck sit overnight and only managed to remove ~6 quarts.

For the last 7K miles my transmission has been behaving normally.

It was late in the evening so I stopped before refilling the transmission. But LubeGard Platinum is going back in with the new fluid this morning. I think I'll be over 90% fresh fluid when this 3rd pass of fluid change is completed later today.

Thanks again to those who helped me save my transmission.

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[muzicman0]

I was finally able to get the fill tube installed and put in the Lube Guard Platinum [I'm the OP].

Gotta say, don't really notice a difference after a few days. Still get hard shifts when the engine is cold. Also, occasional (not sure how to describe this) slow shifts.

I had my transmission rebuilt by my dealer about a year ago (I think it was May or June of last year).

But, at least this project is done, and hopefully it will make maintenance easier in the future.

I'll also say that I had a real hard time getting the 15 oz of fluid out of the transmission. The hoses that came with the pump were just ever so slightly short. Or at least that is my theory on why I had issues.

Getting the fill tube on wasn't too difficult, but man there isn't much room down there!

 

[Loweredon33s]

I was finally able to get the fill tube installed and put in the Lube Guard Platinum [I'm the OP].

Gotta say, don't really notice a difference after a few days. Still get hard shifts when the engine is cold. Also, occasional (not sure how to describe this) slow shifts.

I had my transmission rebuilt by my dealer about a year ago (I think it was May or June of last year).

But, at least this project is done, and hopefully it will make maintenance easier in the future.

I'll also say that I had a real hard time getting the 15 oz of fluid out of the transmission. The hoses that came with the pump were just ever so slightly short. Or at least that is my theory on why I had issues.

Getting the fill tube on wasn't too difficult, but man there isn't much room down there!

I added the red bottle Friday, I can’t say I’m unimpressed but also can’t say it isn’t placebo.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

I was finally able to get the fill tube installed and put in the Lube Guard Platinum [I'm the OP].

Gotta say, don't really notice a difference after a few days. Still get hard shifts when the engine is cold. Also, occasional (not sure how to describe this) slow shifts.

I had my transmission rebuilt by my dealer about a year ago (I think it was May or June of last year).

But, at least this project is done, and hopefully it will make maintenance easier in the future.

I'll also say that I had a real hard time getting the 15 oz of fluid out of the transmission. The hoses that came with the pump were just ever so slightly short. Or at least that is my theory on why I had issues.

Getting the fill tube on wasn't too difficult, but man there isn't much room down there!

Just curious but what exactly did the dealer do/replace when they did the “rebuild “

 

[muzicman0]

Just curious but what exactly did the dealer do/replace when they did the “rebuild “

Here is a copy of the text from the Invoice:

2. VERIFIED CUSTOMER CONCERN. ON ROAD TEST FELT TRANSMISSION HAVING ERRATIC SHIFTS ON 3-5
AND 4-6 SHIFTS. PERFORMED EEC TEST, NO DTC'S PRESENT. UPDATED PCM AND PERFORMED RELEARNS.
CONCERN IS STILL PRESENT. CHECKED FLUID LEVEL AND CONDITION. FLUID IS AT PROPER LEVEL BUT
SMELLS BURNT AND HAS LIGHT DEBRIS. TRANSMISSION REMOVAL REQUIRED FOR FURTHER DIAGNOSIS.
REMOVED NECESSARY COMPONENTS TO REMOVE TRANSMISSION. REMOVED TRANSMISSION AND
MOUNTED TO BENHCH. PERFORMED TEAR DOWN OF TRANSMISSION. ON TEAR DOWN FOUND CDF DRUM
BUSHING SHIFTED DAMAGING RING GEAR SHAFT AND SEALS. FOUND PLANETARY CONTAINER CYLINDER
SPLINES GROOVED. FOUND FORWARD DRUM SPLINES GROOVED. FOUND A,F,E CLUTCHES BURNT. CLEANED
TRANSMISSION CASE AND OVERHAULED TRANSMISSION, REPLACED ALL DAMAGED PARTS AND REPLACED
ALL SEALS. PRESSURE TESTED A,B,E CLUTCHES, ALL APPLY PROPERLY. FOUND VALVES BINDING IN VALVE
BODY, OVERHAULED VALVE BODY, ALL VALVES MOVE AND RETURN FREELY NOW, INSTALLED NEW
SEPARATOR PLATE AND CHANNEL PLATE. REINSTALLED PUMP, VALVE BODY, AUXILARY PUMP, FILTER, AND
PAN/GASKET. FLUSHED TORQUE CONVERTER AND REINSTALLED. REISNTALLED TRANSMISSION TO VEHICLE
WITH MP GREASE ON PILOT HUB. REINSTALLED ALL REMOVED PARTS WITH NEW ONE TIME USE HARDWARE.
FILLED TRANSMISSION TO PROPER LEVEL WITH NEW FLUID. CELARED TRANSMISSION ADAPTIVE TABLES
AND PERFORMED ADAPTIVE RELEARNS. ROAD TESTED VEHICLE, ALL SHIFT POINTS GOOD, ENGAGES INTO
PRND SMOOTH. REPAIRS COMPLETE.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Here is a copy of the text from the Invoice:

2. VERIFIED CUSTOMER CONCERN. ON ROAD TEST FELT TRANSMISSION HAVING ERRATIC SHIFTS ON 3-5
AND 4-6 SHIFTS. PERFORMED EEC TEST, NO DTC'S PRESENT. UPDATED PCM AND PERFORMED RELEARNS.
CONCERN IS STILL PRESENT. CHECKED FLUID LEVEL AND CONDITION. FLUID IS AT PROPER LEVEL BUT
SMELLS BURNT AND HAS LIGHT DEBRIS. TRANSMISSION REMOVAL REQUIRED FOR FURTHER DIAGNOSIS.
REMOVED NECESSARY COMPONENTS TO REMOVE TRANSMISSION. REMOVED TRANSMISSION AND
MOUNTED TO BENHCH. PERFORMED TEAR DOWN OF TRANSMISSION. ON TEAR DOWN FOUND CDF DRUM
BUSHING SHIFTED DAMAGING RING GEAR SHAFT AND SEALS. FOUND PLANETARY CONTAINER CYLINDER
SPLINES GROOVED. FOUND FORWARD DRUM SPLINES GROOVED. FOUND A,F,E CLUTCHES BURNT. CLEANED
TRANSMISSION CASE AND OVERHAULED TRANSMISSION, REPLACED ALL DAMAGED PARTS AND REPLACED
ALL SEALS. PRESSURE TESTED A,B,E CLUTCHES, ALL APPLY PROPERLY. FOUND VALVES BINDING IN VALVE
BODY, OVERHAULED VALVE BODY, ALL VALVES MOVE AND RETURN FREELY NOW, INSTALLED NEW
SEPARATOR PLATE AND CHANNEL PLATE. REINSTALLED PUMP, VALVE BODY, AUXILARY PUMP, FILTER, AND
PAN/GASKET. FLUSHED TORQUE CONVERTER AND REINSTALLED. REISNTALLED TRANSMISSION TO VEHICLE
WITH MP GREASE ON PILOT HUB. REINSTALLED ALL REMOVED PARTS WITH NEW ONE TIME USE HARDWARE.
FILLED TRANSMISSION TO PROPER LEVEL WITH NEW FLUID. CELARED TRANSMISSION ADAPTIVE TABLES
AND PERFORMED ADAPTIVE RELEARNS. ROAD TESTED VEHICLE, ALL SHIFT POINTS GOOD, ENGAGES INTO
PRND SMOOTH. REPAIRS COMPLETE.

Did it shift like this before the pan/fluid/dipstick swap?

 

[muzicman0]

yes. But I didn't do a pan or fluid swap, just pulled out 15 oz of fluid and replaced with Lube Guard. (oh, and added the new dipstick of course)

With that said, I believe (can't be certain that it wasn't a placebo affect) that right after the transmission work by the dealer it was better, but within a couple months I was noticing the harder shifts again.

 

[got3fords]

I added the red bottle Friday, I can’t say I’m unimpressed but also can’t say it isn’t placebo.

Pretty sure the recommended LG Platinum is in a gray bottle.

 

[TJC]

How many miles on the transmission since the rebuild?

I first noticed my transmission acting up at 5,000 miles. Very subtle but real, and by 12,000 miles I was very concerned. The shifts were still not terrible 90% of the time, but every now and then I's get a real banger! By 18.000 miles I was ready to unload the truck.

In a last ditch effort to avoid selling, I pumped out 7.5 quarts of fluid, replaced with new fluid, and installed LubeGard Platinum. 99% better, but still had a slight roughness when shifting from 3 to 4. Drove it 3,000 miles and performed another fluid change. Transmission was better yet, adding another 6oz of LubeGard Platinum, and the transmission shifted perfectly, just like when I first bought it new!

7,000 miles later (25,000 miles on the truck) it was still shifting fine, I performed an engine oil change, and sucked out another 7.5 quarts of transmission fluid. Drove the truck 75 miles this morning without a hiccup, this was urban, then interstate, then country roads back to home.

Perfect!

I used the last of my ULV with this transmission change. Gonna be purchasing a couple of cases when it goes on sale again at NAPA. I am hoping to get 25K miles between transmission fluid changes, but at the very first sign of trouble I will be changing the fluid again... and adding LubeGard Platinum.

This worked for me.

 

[Burnt Money]

I replaced the Filter and added LubeGuard yesterday. The truck shifts a lot smoother. I’m at 86k miles. I also tow a lot. I sucked out 5qts a few weeks ago and replaced with fresh fluid. I was hoping between that and the fluid and filter change it would be mostly new fluid. The element in the filter was black. The fluid was very dark as well. I’m also running the Livernois tune for the last 81k miles. Probably should have changed the fluid and filter 40k miles ago lol.

 

[5thranger]

Pretty sure the recommended LG Platinum is in a gray bottle.

The 15 oz bottle is gray there is a 5 or 6 oz bottle that might be red.

 

[Loweredon33s]

The 15 oz bottle is gray there is a 5 or 6 oz bottle that might be red.

The red is also recommended but not considered “as advanced”

 

[got3fords]

The red is also recommended but not considered “as advanced”

Yep, all "Platinum" products are in gray bottles.
https://lubegard.com/products/platinum/

 

[ctechbob]

The red is also recommended but not considered “as advanced”

Mine didn't like the red as much as it liked the platinum. I tried them both before making the platinum recommendation.

Well, I say I tried them both. What actually happened is I ran out of platinum and had the red on hand that I was using in my Honda cars. Wasn't near as smooth as the platinum, so I used up the rest of the red in the Honda's and eventually switched them over to that Platinum as well. My Accord is already on trans #3 at almost 300k, but it is the known shit transmission. The Acura is approaching 200k on the original.

 

[Loweredon33s]

Mine didn't like the red as much as it liked the platinum. I tried them both before making the platinum recommendation.

Well, I say I tried them both. What actually happened is I ran out of platinum and had the red on hand that I was using in my Honda cars. Wasn't near as smooth as the platinum, so I used up the rest of the red in the Honda's and eventually switched them over to that Platinum as well. My Accord is already on trans #3 at almost 300k, but it is the known shit transmission. The Acura is approaching 200k on the original.

I actually read your post on another forum about this, it’s why I tried it.

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