2022 transmission needs "overhaul" - just left the dealer.

[Wandrr]

Easy to find out - look in your door jamb at the sticker:

Thank you!
Once I get the truck back, I'll check it out.

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[ccasanova22]

It’s a night and day difference. Once rebuilt my 22 feels like a different truck.

I think I will drain and flush this trans every 30k from now on, all driveline fluids (rear end and transfer case) every 25-30k also, as I’ve already had 2 of the 3 (rear end, TCase, trans) repaired under warranty.

 

[CP0861]

Just curious- What is your build date?

This is the factor on exactly what they will replace- Valve Body or CDF Drum or combo of both.

I don't think that the build date alone necessarily determines what gets replaced. It puts you in "Procedure Group A" in the TSB, but from there, it's a step by step process. My build date was pre-August 2022. After scanning for DTC's, they perform "Main control valve body step 1". If they determine everything is resolved, they're done. If problems persist, they go to the CDF cylinder.

I had the valve body work done a couple of months ago.....there was a definite and noticeable improvement. I have not had a single hard shift from P to D since. Also, the hesitation has gone away - several times (before repair) after putting it in D, I would hit the gas and get very minimal response. I'd hear the rpms and response in the engine, but the truck would barely more. That hasn't happened since.

However, there are still some quirky shifts....and a few days ago, I put it in R from P, hit the gas like I always do, heard the engine rev up, but the truck didn't budge a single inch. Hit the gas again, truck didn't budge...it actually felt stuck in place. I put my foot on the brake to get my phone out to record video.....maybe 5-10 seconds on the brake.....let off the brake and it rolled back in R and it has been fine since. But even with the hesitation issues I experienced before, it would at least move slightly. This time, I hit the gas twice and it did not budge AT ALL. And I was parked on my slab in front of my garage that is slightly sloped downward.

I'm due for an oil change anyway. Called my service advisor last week to schedule and when he calls me back, I'll be sure to mention it to them so they can check it out again.

I was planning on adding the Ford Performance tune, but after the hesitation the other day, I'm going to hold off.

 

[airline tech]

I don't think the build date alone determines what gets replaced. My build date was pre-August 2022. After scanning for DTC's, they perform "Main control valve body step 1". If problems persist, they go to the CDF cylinder. If they determine everything is resolved, they're done.

As I read the TSB, that's how they will proceed with anyone who has a Ranger with a pre-August 2022 transmission (Procedure Group A in the TSB).

Correct - my build date is Aug 16, so by using the TSB as a reference, I presume I have the updated CDF drum.
So when or hopefully IF I have issues they will only do the valve body.
I am monitoring for owners of the 22 MY to see if the newer drum is actually helping resolve the tranny issue.

 

[Racket]

Correct - my build date is Aug 16, so by using the TSB as a reference, I presume I have the updated CDF drum.

I am monitoring for owners of the 22 MY to see if the newer drum is actually helping resolve the tranny issue.

I'm curious about these stats since I have read one comment on this forum someone claiming the updated CDF is experiencing failures. Hard to imagine that if it was changed out only in the last year and the sample size would be small even if verified. Any rebuilds prior to the change in design would (I expect) simply be the original version.

 

[AghastVenus1]

So I have an update from my dealer on my truck. They are going to completely swap the transmission and put a new one in it. I asked the service advisor that texted me today if there was a specific diagnosis and he said even though there weren't any notes in their system yet, he was pretty sure it was because of the CDF drum. So the new transmission should be the updated design. Now begins the long wait for them to actually GET the transmission ?

 

[Stevedbvik1]

So I have an update from my dealer on my truck. They are going to completely swap the transmission and put a new one in it. I asked the service advisor that texted me today if there was a specific diagnosis and he said even though there weren't any notes in their system yet, he was pretty sure it was because of the CDF drum. So the new transmission should be the updated design. Now begins the long wait for them to actually GET the transmission ?

Interesting. Did they do anything to your truck prior to ordering the new transmission? Like update transmission program or rebuild valve body? I’m asking because the TSB logic tree for your build date is:
1- verify issue and reflash software
2- if issue still exists the rebuild valve body.
3- if issue still exists then do CDF repair or replace transmission.
Sounds to me that they just jumped right to replacing the transmission.
Is your truck still drivable ?
I just went through the TSB fix with my 22 with 15k on it and all they did was reflash to software. Then said if I had further issues then they would proceed with the next steps

 

[AghastVenus1]

Interesting. Did they do anything to your truck prior to ordering the new transmission? Like update transmission program or rebuild valve body? I’m asking because the TSB logic tree for your build date is:
1- verify issue and reflash software
2- if issue still exists the rebuild valve body.
3- if issue still exists then do CDF repair or replace transmission.
Sounds to me that they just jumped right to replacing the transmission.
Is your truck still drivable ?
I just went through the TSB fix with my 22 with 15k on it and all they did was reflash to software. Then said if I had further issues then they would proceed with the next steps

I don't have confirmation, but given how quickly they came to the conclusion I'm pretty sure they went straight to "slap a new one in there." I will say that when I talked to them about it back in October when setting up the appointment, their transmission tech was well aware of the issue even from just the description.

 

[jflogerzi]

So I have an update from my dealer on my truck. They are going to completely swap the transmission and put a new one in it. I asked the service advisor that texted me today if there was a specific diagnosis and he said even though there weren't any notes in their system yet, he was pretty sure it was because of the CDF drum. So the new transmission should be the updated design. Now begins the long wait for them to actually GET the transmission ?

Thats not good. MY22 here to... I really need to get the extend warranty. How many miles on your truck?

 

[Stevedbvik1]

I don't have confirmation, but given how quickly they came to the conclusion I'm pretty sure they went straight to "slap a new one in there." I will say that when I talked to them about it back in October when setting up the appointment, their transmission tech was well aware of the issue even from just the description.

Technically they cannot just jump to replacing the transmission per the TSB. Unless the shop doesn’t have the capability of doing the valve body repair or CDF drum repair. Maybe Ford allows them to just replace the transmission. It would be interesting to know exactly what they’ve done since your first visit with the complaint.

 

[airline tech]

Great News, Personally I feel that this should be the only option outside of trying a reprogram.
Take the old (failing Transmission) rebuild it and then flood the market with the rebuilds for those out of warranty.
Saves Labor Cost to the owner and this is something an owner could do on his own if they chose to tackle it.

 

[AghastVenus1]

Thats not good. MY22 here to... I really need to get the extend warranty. How many miles on your truck?

I've got 17k on the clock. I wasn't experiencing too terribly bad symptoms, but after seeing this thread and the common problems and paying more attention to how it was shifting, I decided to take it in before any major damage could be caused and while I was still under warranty.

Technically they cannot just jump to replacing the transmission per the TSB. Unless the shop doesn’t have the capability of doing the valve body repair or CDF drum repair. Maybe Ford allows them to just replace the transmission. It would be interesting to know exactly what they’ve done since your first visit with the complaint.

Honestly if I get a new transmission with the updated CDF drum out of it then I'm a happy camper. Service advisor also said that both their transmission tech have been with them a long time, so it's possible whomever was inspecting has seen so many of that transmission go through where steps 1 ans 2 of the TSB dodnt actually fix it that he was confident to go directly to replacing. Ill be sure to try and get a summary from them once all is said and done.

 

[puda]

I don't have confirmation, but given how quickly they came to the conclusion I'm pretty sure they went straight to "slap a new one in there." I will say that when I talked to them about it back in October when setting up the appointment, their transmission tech was well aware of the issue even from just the description.

What dealership is this?

 

[AghastVenus1]

What dealership is this?

Germain Ford in Beavercreek Ohio

 

[airline tech]

Technically they cannot just jump to replacing the transmission per the TSB. Unless the shop doesn’t have the capability of doing the valve body repair or CDF drum repair. Maybe Ford allows them to just replace the transmission. It would be interesting to know exactly what they’ve done since your first visit with the complaint.

You are missing one important note of a TSB

NOTE: This article is for information only. Determine the causal part number and use available labor times in Section 7 of the Service Labor Time Standards (SLTS) Manual or claim M-time in accordance with the Warranty and Policy Manual. Causal part number IN in this article refers to the information only status and is not able to be claimed.

A TSB is a general guidance to the technician to resolve the issue, it is not mandatory to follow it verbatim.

Now the main question is the proper communication between the dealer and Ford Corporate.
Ford may force the dealer to back step and perform the other options first.
I am thinking it matters if it is a High-Volume shop then they might get the Green Light for jumping to replacement.

So mainly you the owner are at the mercy of the dealer and what they are willing to do, if they are willing to fight for you to get the proper fix then you are golden if not you are stuck playing the (Band-Aid) repair and let's see what it does after we do this. Bring it back if it acts up.

Now a RECALL is another matter, it MUST be followed verbatim with no deviation.

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