My perfect Ranger with an imperfect transmission...

[ccasanova22]

Geez, the way that legalese reads even a Ford Performance Tune would then be considered an “alteration” as it’s a Ford branded modification but from a different Ford Motor Company brand/division!

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[yamahaSHO]

You’d think Ford would update the transmission profile considering all of the complaints.

They did make minor updates in the tune, but it looked to be more like completing some tables they forgot to put anything in, or extremely minor changes that won't really affect the driving experience. This was comparing a stock 2019 vs a 2022 map.

 

[Msfitoy]

Perhaps this is what I'm looking for?

https://parts.ford.com/content/dam/...sandTransmissionsLimitedWarrantyStatement.pdf

Yup...the service manager sent me the same info I already found (above)...they could've just told me that from get go and saved me a ton of typing....

 

[OFC Ranger]

Geez, the way that legalese reads even a Ford Performance Tune would then be considered an “alteration” as it’s a Ford branded modification but from a different Ford Motor Company brand/division!

And if you make owners of the Ford Performance tune aware of this 95% of the time they get super butt-hurt and defensive. A realization they have been duped sets in.

I've sort of found enjoyment on doing this on Ranger FB group pages.

 

[ccasanova22]

And if you make owners of the Ford Performance tune aware of this 95% of the time they get super butt-hurt and defensive. A realization they have been duped sets in.

I've sort of found enjoyment on doing this on Ranger FB group pages.

Since many have claimed the FP warranty keeps their powertrain warranty, why don’t they go to their dealer and ask what happens when a non-OEM (as in, Ford original tune) is installed. I’m told “vehicle calibrations that are aftermarket” can void the 5/60k powertrain and yes, the FP tune is an aftermarket calibration!

Now if you had the Ford Protection Plan PowertrainCARE warranty that’s probably up to the arbitrator, but I’m willing to bet short of something minor like a diff leak they will say the FP tune caused the major failure and you’re out of luck. (Turbo, trans, etc.)

Guess you could try to hire an army of lawyers but in the majority of cases, you’ll lose. Sucks but it’s what it is…

 

[OFC Ranger]

Since many have claimed the FP warranty keeps their powertrain warranty, why don’t they go to their dealer and ask what happens when a non-OEM (as in, Ford original tune) is installed. I’m told “vehicle calibrations that are aftermarket” can void the 5/60k powertrain and yes, the FP tune is an aftermarket calibration!

Now if you had the Ford Protection Plan PowertrainCARE warranty that’s probably up to the arbitrator, but I’m willing to bet short of something minor like a diff leak they will say the FP tune caused the major failure and you’re out of luck. (Turbo, trans, etc.)

Guess you could try to hire an army of lawyers but in the majority of cases, you’ll lose. Sucks but it’s what it is…

The other caveat is the supposed warranty attached to the ford tuner that is 36k / 3 year is tied to the original purchase date of the truck.

 

[Frenchy]

Since many have claimed the FP warranty keeps their powertrain warranty, why don’t they go to their dealer and ask what happens when a non-OEM (as in, Ford original tune) is installed. I’m told “vehicle calibrations that are aftermarket” can void the 5/60k powertrain and yes, the FP tune is an aftermarket calibration!

Now if you had the Ford Protection Plan PowertrainCARE warranty that’s probably up to the arbitrator, but I’m willing to bet short of something minor like a diff leak they will say the FP tune caused the major failure and you’re out of luck. (Turbo, trans, etc.)

Guess you could try to hire an army of lawyers but in the majority of cases, you’ll lose. Sucks but it’s what it is…

The Ford Performance tune doesnt keep the powertrain warranty entirely intact. It lowers it to a 3 year 36,000 mile warranty. Already spoke with Ford and Ford Performance about it. As for the extended warranty it becomes a "Grey Area" since many extended warranty companies will not honor warranty with aftermarket parts installed.

As for a different tune from Livernois or other companies it becomes a "Grey Are" from the moment its installed. Why? Simply for tye fact that it isnt a certified tune from Ford. That said the failure still has to be proven for the tune being the cause.

 

[ccasanova22]

That makes sense, however if your 10R80 loses an output shaft or your 2.3 EcoBoost throws a rod and they say “the added boost from your aftermarket calibration” pushed the motor/trans past its limits, beyond the design capabilities, it’s gonna be hard to prove that the tune did NOT cause the issue…

 

[Joeiconic]

Must be.
I just rolled 20,000 over the weekend. It'll take me forever to catch up with you.

Me too. I’m at 20,280 and it turns two years old next week. So I’m only about 8 years from 100,000 ?. I usually get bored and trade around 5-6 years so I doubt I will make it.

 

[Joeiconic]

If I could magically build my own setup, I'd prefer an 8 or 6 speed behind the 2.3 ecoboost personally. The 8 speed out of my former Colorado ZR2 would be perfect in my mind for everyday driving. That 8 speed was nice from my experience, but I know others had issues. The 10 speed really only shines when towing in tow/haul mode in my humble opinion. In regular drive mode it skips 2 gears normally so only using 8 of the 10 99% of the time.

Agreed, I’ve had several vehicles with an eight speed transmission and that’s the sweet spot IMO.

 

[RangerAl87]

Question? Our powertrains are covered for 5yrs/100kmiles? is the transmission not part of the powertrain?

I understand that I'm just guessing where he "got that from"

Sorry guys, I was thinking of my wife's Kia warranty when I wrote this. Please dont throw me infront of a train.

 

[Jason B]

Since many have claimed the FP warranty keeps their powertrain warranty, why don’t they go to their dealer and ask what happens when a non-OEM (as in, Ford original tune) is installed. I’m told “vehicle calibrations that are aftermarket” can void the 5/60k powertrain and yes, the FP tune is an aftermarket calibration!

Now if you had the Ford Protection Plan PowertrainCARE warranty that’s probably up to the arbitrator, but I’m willing to bet short of something minor like a diff leak they will say the FP tune caused the major failure and you’re out of luck. (Turbo, trans, etc.)

Guess you could try to hire an army of lawyers but in the majority of cases, you’ll lose. Sucks but it’s what it is…

But the difference is that it's a Ford authorized aftermarket tune.

 

[Frenchy]

But the difference is that it's a Ford authorized aftermarket tune.

It is true that Ford authorized the tune. It still considered a gray area with the aftermarket extended warranties even through Ford because they can deny any warranty on the powertrain just because of the tune

 

[ccasanova22]

But the difference is that it's a Ford authorized aftermarket tune.

I read the FP warranty paperwork and it says any damage caused by the FP tune will be covered by FP if the New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover, hence it makes it sound like they can deny a claim under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty due to the FP tune…

 

[Frenchy]

I read the FP warranty paperwork and it says any damage caused by the FP tune will be covered by FP if the New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover, hence it makes it sound like they can deny a claim under the New Vehicle Limited Warranty due to the FP tune…

And dont forget that the warranty from Ford Performance is effective from the Vehicle warranty start date. Not the time of install.

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