My perfect Ranger with an imperfect transmission...

[Racket]

Yeah, if you actually need a heavier duty part, that's why Ford made the 10R140. But wait, nexgen has something to say about that also: https://nextgendiesel.com/blogs/transmissions-101/ford-10r140-transmission-problems-solutions

Their criticisms of the 10R140 seem oddly familiar, like someone just did a search and replace on a generic whine piece.

I read through that and now I just hope the 10 speed holds together until my extended warranty expires - and beyond.

The article comes off as a sales pitch for what would be an $8500 custom trans in our trucks or their $3500 'bolt on' valve body kits.

I'm on the fence about high capacity fluid pans since it would take longer for the trans to come up to temp, then whether bigger trans coolers would add more problems than solve one. From what I've read Ford says the tranny is good for around 475 HP and 1000 ft lbs torque (oh to dream). A boutique built Ranger with that kind of performance would be the target I'm sure.

Double Edit (from their 'how to extend the life' article) Dave?

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[Cmar]

Yeah, if you actually need a heavier duty part, that's why Ford made the 10R140. But wait, nexgen has something to say about that also: https://nextgendiesel.com/blogs/transmissions-101/ford-10r140-transmission-problems-solutions

Their criticisms of the 10R140 seem oddly familiar, like someone just did a search and replace on a generic whine piece.

Not to diss the company but they made an error in the line about Ford spending heaps of money designing 10R80 predecessor.

The 6R80 was in fact a German ZF 6HP26 design used in many European vehicles, and built under licence by Ford with very minor modifications. Most of the modifications centered around changing clutch material components and clamping pressures etc for use in heavier vehicles like Rangers, F150's and to make them compatible with Fords Mercon fluid range.

 

[ctechbob]

Not to diss the company but they made an error in the line about Ford spending heaps of money designing 10R80 predecessor.

The 6R80 was in fact a German ZF 6HP26 design used in many European vehicles, and built under licence by Ford with very minor modifications. Most of the modifications centered around changing clutch material components and clamping pressures etc for use in heavier vehicles like Rangers, F150's and to make them compatible with Fords Mercon fluid range.

I have quietly wished that Ford/GM would just have used the ZF8 like everyone else on the planet. It is proving to be a very very good box from the looks of it. Surely they could have made do with 2 fewer speeds.

 

[VAMike]

It's amazing how quickly we can get to 10 pages of bs for a statistical anomaly. Ford's been selling what? half a million of these transmissions per year for half a decade? The vast majority of them are working fine. (Which is the problem with the voodoo "solutions": statistically, the transmission was going to be fine anyway--which means someone swearing that their unnecessary mod made the difference is a useless anecdote.)

 

[TJC]

It's amazing how quickly we can get to 10 pages of bs for a statistical anomaly. Ford's been selling what? half a million of these transmissions per year for half a decade? The vast majority of them are working fine. (Which is the problem with the voodoo "solutions": statistically, the transmission was going to be fine anyway--which means someone swearing that their unnecessary mod made the difference is a useless anecdote.)

We all pick our poison.

1 death in 100 million doesn't amount to much, unless it is you, then it 100% matters.

 

[VAMike]

We all pick our poison.

1 death in 100 million doesn't amount to much, unless it is you, then it 100% matters.

of course it matters to the person who gets the anomaly, but 10 pages of voodoo to avoid the same thing is ridiculous.

 

[Blmpkn]

of course it matters to the person who gets the anomaly, but 10 pages of voodoo to avoid the same thing is ridiculous.

Voodoo?


Clearly the 10r80 was a massive mistake.. last ford I ever buy I tell ya what.

 

[AzScorpion]

Voodoo?


Clearly the 10r80 was a massive mistake.. last ford I ever buy I tell ya what.

Massive mistake? Take this forum alone where we have just over 15,000 members and I only recall a handful saying they've have transmission issues. Now take the hundreds of thousands (maybe more) that are in the F150 and other vehicles and you're bound to get some failures. If it were a wide spread issue we'd be hearing a lot more about it and I'm sure this 10R80 would've been redesigned by now.

Best thing to do is let Sid get his Ranger to the dealer and let them diagnose it so all us arm chair mechanics can go back to worrying about more important things. Like should I get a second damper? ?

 

[Jason B]

How unfortunate to have such a failure. IMO, since it not a warranty issue, I wouldn't take it to Ford unless you are set on getting a new one. AFAIK, Ford dealerships don't rebuild transmissions. They will likely farm it out, tack on 30% and pass the cost to you. I'd prefer to take it to a transmission shop that specializes in just transmissions.

 

[Blmpkn]

Massive mistake? Take this forum alone where we have just over 15,000 members and I only recall a handful saying they've have transmission issues. Now take the hundreds of thousands (maybe more) that are in the F150 and other vehicles and you're bound to get some failures. If it were a wide spread issue we'd be hearing a lot more about it and I'm sure this 10R80 would've been redesigned by now.

Best thing to do is let Sid get his Ranger to the dealer and let them diagnose it so all us arm chair mechanics can go back to worrying about more important things. Like should I get a second damper? ?

I was being sarcastic ?

People need to smoke a big fat joint and relax.

I've never been on a forum with so much concentrated paranoia. Really. Relatively sure the levels of paranoia around here are infinitely higher than what would be found on like... a forum dedicated to Alex Jones or something ?

 

[AzScorpion]

I was being sarcastic ?

People need to smoke a big fat joint and relax.

I've never been on a forum with so much concentrated paranoia. Really. Relatively sure the levels of paranoia around here are infinitely higher than what would be found on like... a forum dedicated to Alex Jones or something ?

My sarcastic meter isn't working well today. lol

 

[Jason B]

I was being sarcastic ?

People need to smoke a big fat joint and relax.

I've never been on a forum with so much concentrated paranoia. Really. Relatively sure the levels of paranoia around here are infinitely higher than what would be found on like... a forum dedicated to Alex Jones or something ?

No way I am putting anything into my lungs. But Edibles help.

 

[IdahoRanger]

Massive mistake? Take this forum alone where we have just over 15,000 members and I only recall a handful saying they've have transmission issues. Now take the hundreds of thousands (maybe more) that are in the F150 and other vehicles and you're bound to get some failures. If it were a wide spread issue we'd be hearing a lot more about it and I'm sure this 10R80 would've been redesigned by now.

Best thing to do is let Sid get his Ranger to the dealer and let them diagnose it so all us arm chair mechanics can go back to worrying about more important things. Like should I get a second damper? ?

The mice problem seems to be more common than transmissions.

 

[VAMike]

The mice problem seems to be more common than transmissions.

and much more likely to result in actually critical problems, like hantavirus

 

[Chris M]

Who is Alex Jones?

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