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Here's the past 3,000 or so miles

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65% Highway, of that more than half at 75mph

Winter fuel and lots of warm-up for the cold over the past few months

Mods: Velocitech Big Mouth, K&N Drop-in, 93 octane
ok, 93 octane.... bear with me folks.
Background, I work for one of the biggest oil and gas companies globally, in the gasoline and distillate distribution end at a Terminal (where refineries ship products to).
If you have a specific tune 93/94 and 91 are probably a good choice because the engine is tuned for it. You may actually find a better savings in the wallet by running 89 (or whatever mid grade you pick) as you will have the mpg offset with the price difference at the pump.

some 93/94 will contain ethanol so be aware of this fact as some times it is 91 boosted to 93/94 by way of ethanol, in which case that specific station if they sell 91 will probably have ethanol in the 91 as it would be 93/94 blended down at the dispenser with 87.

mid grade is a smart choice because you will probably only have 5% ethanol (depending on how it’s blended) and a higher ppm of fuel additives (DCA or known as deposit control additive)

gas buddy (website) has a generally consensus that She’ll Silver (mid grade) is the best for MPG vs cost. If 93/94 is giving you an extra 1MPG is it worth it for the.25-.40 cents more (based on costs where I am)?

I have also found that mid grade seems to give me the best mpg on the highway. Octane (and this is a very dumb science version) only helps really with engine knock and in small high compression engines. The eco beast can sort of fall in there. The biggest benefit to premium (91/93/94) gasoline is actually the higher volume of other additives that are blended in.

also there is such a thing as summer and winter gas. The vapour pressure is different. In winter (in cold snowy climates) the vapour pressure of regular base can be up above 107kPa, where as in the summer (maybe not in the desert) the VP needs to be around 40kpa or so. That’s for regular, premium will be even lower. This is to help prevent vapour locking and makes starting easier etc....

In short you do you boo boo and if 93/94 is your jam giver but you may actually be not saving anything. Again I find for me Mid grade has given me the best MPG. If I only gain a few points in the MPG the extra cost may offset all those extra mpg. There is a case and a place for those higher octane gasoline’s for sure but be aware that you may not actually be getting what you think or want
 

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Filled up our FX4 SuperCab today. Ran the numbers manually and was pleasantly surprised to see 27.6 mpg.

Pretty much exclusively cruise control driving,
6,574 ft accumulative elevation gain,
306 miles,
6:40 Hours,
11.079 gallons,
91 Octane Shell Top Tier Fuel
We have a little over 16,000 miles on the truck
 
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Filled up our FX4 SuperCab today. Ran the numbers manually and was pleasantly surprised to see 27.6 mpg.

Pretty much exclusively cruise control driving,
6,574 ft accumulative elevation gain,
306 miles,
6:40 Hours,
11.079 gallons,
91 Octane Shell Top Tier Fuel
Shell V-Power = one of the highest additive treatment rates and no ethanol.

High elevation you will see better performance with a premium gasoline generally due to the vapour pressure of said gasoline. I am not 100% sure of kPa for higher elevations or what the exact VP schedule for the US is. It could, as it is in the provinces, be a state regulated thing. In a drier climate (desert/high elevation) ethanol in fuel won’t be as bad as it would be in a more humid area, but you’d probably want a higher grade fuel due to the better (lower) vapour pressure. Again if you find one brand or grade works best for you stick to it.

also pro tip, I avoid corporate stations (Costco for example). May be cheaper but there’s also a reason. Also city vs highway will make a differences as well. If I am bombing around town and not really getting up to speeds, regular is fine for me. Highway, mid grade is my go too.

I don’t know as much about the brands and regs down in the US, so really it’s whatever flavour you think works for you.
 


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Only supposed to get 19/19 so this isn't bad for being brand new with almost no miles.
Really? Very interesting.

Thinking this through... so the Tremor package (Really just a lift kit and bigger tires) takes the Ranger FX4 from a 20/24 mpg vehicle and dropps it down to a 19/19 mpg vehicle?

That kind of answers the question about how much a lift and bigger tires effect mpg.

In town I can see how the heavier tires would be an issue... but cruising down the highway? I mean once you have momentum.. 5 mpg hit seems unlikely no bigger than the Tremor wheel and tires package are.
 

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Shell V-Power = one of the highest additive treatment rates and no ethanol.....
According to data I found online:
" Shell V-Power ranges from 91 to 93 octane both with and without added ethanol. It just varies from station to station, and it's up to the station owner whether or not to sell pure gas. "
 

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According to data I found online:
" Shell V-Power ranges from 91 to 93 octane both with and without added ethanol. It just varies from station to station, and it's up to the station owner whether or not to sell pure gas. "
Is that for the US? So far in Canada Shell is not adding ethanol to V-Power. Also V-Power in Canada is only 91. Like I said I am not 100% sure for the USA. Some states may also have regulations on ethanol. Also the station owner (again in Canada) does not have a choice, it’s a recipe that is programmed at the bulk terminal that the load comes from. The only ethanol in V-Power is whatever is left in the hose from the previous person at the pump, like maybe a few litres of regular were in last (unless V-Power has its own hose and nozzle).

What’s the source of that quote?

Also again, ethanol won’t kill your eco boost engine. Not good for 2 strokes tho.
 

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Leave the Traction Control off unless you need it ie: Rain, mud. It puts some drag on the motor. Check your mileage that way, see if it helps.
Regards
Didn't go back through all the thread, but are you saying to hold the traction control button for 5 seconds at start to turn it off completely? And, that needs to be done every start?
 
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Didn't go back through all the thread, but are you saying to hold the traction control button for 5 seconds at start to turn it off completely? And, that needs to be done every start?
You don’t have to hold it for 5 seconds, just push it and the icon will show ...when I start I push the s/s off and traction control off ...2 touch’s ..
and I don’t have a damper...:like:
 
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You don’t have to hold it for 5 seconds, just push it and the icon will show ...
Thanks. I'll try it. I'm getting around 19, but that's mainly city driving, and I'm only on my second tank at ~450 miles. I filled up with 93 on my second tank.
 
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You don’t have to hold it for 5 seconds, just push it and the icon will show ...when I start I push the s/s off and traction control off ...2 touch’s ..
Just pushing it only toggles Traction control. Pushing and holding will toggle AdvanceTrac. @Tom_C
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