THLONE
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BRAKES: Proper operation and spelling. When you lose power brakes or brake fluid the brakes will feel different, but will still work. The pedal will go down farther or feel harder. Push harder or further.
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Not sure how you expect a hydraulic system to function without the fluid and pressure that moves the piston... Without fluid and pressure you have no brakes outside the cable-operated parking brake.BRAKES: Proper operation and spelling. When you lose power brakes or brake fluid the brakes will feel different, but will still work. The pedal will go down farther or feel harder. Push harder or further.
Come on Thom... it's an internet forum... not English class, and it's Saturday.BRAKES: Proper operation and spelling. When you lose power brakes or brake fluid the brakes will feel different, but will still work. The pedal will go down farther or feel harder. Push harder or further.
Unless the dealership put every new vehicle on a lift and did a safety inspection, there is no way they could have found the issue. Is that realistic? I'd say no.Fixed!!!!
Front brake hose was rubbing against mag.
We now know it takes 3000 miles to go through the front brake hose.
Wheels were never off.
No idea how it happened?
I'll go with damaged in transport.
New hose will come in next week, will have a loner, Escape.
My question is, we pay for them to do prep work before delivery to us, right, so they should have caught this.
So, what does the forum say?
1 - Cause?
2 - Delership responsibility?
Oh, that is right, everybody hung over and not checking any breaks. LOLCome on Thom... it's an internet forum... not English class, and it's Saturday.
I just meant most folks are tired of hearing their boss harp on them all week about stuff... and they don't want a spelling lesson once they log on to their favorite forum.Oh, that is right, everybody hung over and not checking any breaks. LOL
Thanks. I stand corrected! I should know better. Research, Research, Research.are we sure we dont have an indication?? the spread of false information is an embarrassment
So @CB750F since you stated "No Level Sensor" you might want to have them check that at the dealership while it's there.Ebrake worked fine.
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No level sensor.
Now we have a rodeo.are we sure we dont have an indication?? the spread of false information is an embarrassment
But how do you know this is accurate? Our owners manual suggests we have a cigar lighter, among the other errors that have been pointed out. Certainly enough to anger Phil into telling us about that aspect of his job at Ford.are we sure we dont have an indication?? the spread of false information is an embarrassment
Conversely if the front brake circuit fails - as in the OPs case you notice it and quickly. Loaned my Saab to my brother and he brings it home one night saying " I think there is something wrong with your brakes" Well a front flexible line was slashed - and the there wasn't much fluid left nor braking , can't believe he even made it home. Moron. Took nearly a week to get the part as nobody local stocked them - extremely rare occurrence.Hi Folks,
This is a summary of FMVSS 105 as it is way too complicated to post here. This is from the Haynes manual.
"By 1967, it was mandated by the Federal Government that all vehicles use a dual-brake master cylinder, with separate circuits in case of the failure of a line or other issue. The resulting dual circuit master cylinders typically have two separate chambers that separate the front and rear brake circuits, though some still are split diagonally.
This type of system prevents the total loss of braking action in the event of the system being compromised. The brakes still work even in the event of one seal in the master cylinder going bad, or a pressure leak in the system.
Either systems will stop the vehicle with only one circuit operating, and prevent an accident, though stopping distances are much greater. More than 75% of your braking is done with the front wheels, so if the rear brakes fail you may not even notice."
Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired
My thoughts exactly!Sure... feed the lawyers and sue Ford for an accident that didn't happen. Then complain why the cost of vehicles and other things by major corporations get so dang expensive.
... From my racing days any debris on the road don’t straddle. If unavoidable drive over it with the tire and hope for the best. ...