Upgraded Cold Air Intake System Scoop from aFe

[Shomare]

Ordered mine last week, super fast shipping. Install couldn’t be any easier

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[Msfitoy]

 

[mark_anderson_us]

Hi John,

Hey...they can send me one and say tested by a Ford Engineer. ?

A bit of a back story. I was on a flight back from our Arizona Proving Grounds and there was a news paper in the seat pocket left behind from another passenger. In the middle section was a full page ad for a REVOLUTIONARY FUEL ECONOMY IMPROVEMENT Device. It was cutting edge technology called Gas Wiz. I was amused and took the paper back to Dearborn. I showed it to my boss and he said to order two for testing. These were little propellers mounted under the carburetor. So we tested them and these things did diddle squat but they had a downside...Carburetor Icing...A dreaded phenomenon that we strove to eliminate on all Ford products. So I called Gas Wiz to inofrm they failed, but they did not care. Guess what their ads then said Tested By Ford. ?????? They failed miserable, but guess what...they were Tested By Ford. Lesson Learned. Whole thing was a pyramid scam to sell distributorships...not Gas Wiz. Sheesh!

These Forums are causing my long term memory to recount experiences I had thought were long forgotten!

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

LOL - you're a mine of inside info Phil. If I'm ever down your way, I'm buying you dinner!

Brings back not so happy memories of when I road a buddy's Ducati in the winter

 

[mark_anderson_us]

all very interesting but not cool if you have to open hood to see it. What does it look like with hood closed

 

[Msfitoy]

all very interesting but not cool if you have to open hood to see it. What does it look like with hood closed

What color is the forest when you're not there? ?

 

[Frenchy]

What color is the forest when you're not there? ?

Pink with purple polka dots?! Lol

 

[mark_anderson_us]

What color is the forest when you're not there? ?

Is that the same 'if a man says something and there's no-one around to hear him, is he still wrong?"

 

[Msfitoy]

Is that the same 'if a man says something and there's no-one around to hear him, is he still wrong?"

That's what my wife might say lol

 

[mark_anderson_us]

That's what my wife might say lol

indeed!

 

[Racket]

I have the Velossa Tech Big Mouth and aFe in tandem and was preoccupied with getting better gas mileage. Found out Winter Blend fuel went on sale right before I got the Magnum and it doesn't provide as good fuel mileage. I was going to try to speculate why my hand calculated MPG's took a hit and how the aFe could cause that but I guess it's the seasonal change in gas formulation that apparently even we in sunny South Florida get too.

 

[importfighter01]

If you remove the radiator shroud / cowl and hold it up to the hood you can see how much of a restriction the .75in tall air path between the air scoop inlet to the 6x2 Air feed hole in the radiator shroud / cowl is. All intakes using the factory air feed from the radiator shroud / cowl area yield 6-8 hp. The factory air scoop is not a restriction as the Mishimoto intake eliminates the S shape of both the factory and aFe air scoops and still only yields 6-7 whp. Regardless of intake design they all yield the same power because they are all restricted by the design of the radiator shroud / cowl air feed.

So what happens if you don’t use the radiator shroud / cowl for your air feed source? The Injen intake (no longer made) dyno’d 13 hp / 14tq because it was an open cone filter under the hood with no restrictive air path to get to the intake pipe. Issue with that design is you are sucking in hot air so that 13hp is greatly diminished when the hood is closed (maybe why they don’t make it anymore).

https://www.cspracing.com/injen-pf9...rinkle-black-pf-cold-air-intake/inj-pf9071wb/



Not saying the aFe scoop is not a nice piece, just that the restrictive air feed design in the radiator area is the biggest problem to greater power gains from an intake perspective. I’ve looked into cutting a 3in hole in the radiator shroud / cowl in front of the air scoop inlet so the air feed doesnt pull through the narrow slit between the scoop and radiator shroud / cowl factory feed hole, but while it’s totally doable it would be warm air as there is a gap under the radiator shroud / cowl and the metal radiator support is covers.

The best option I’ve found that requires no cutting is to fit a 3in 90deg silicone elbow under the headlight and draw cold air from the lower bumper area. Now that I’ve insulated my factory airbox from heat soak (lowered idling IATs by 30deg and driving IATs by 15deg) I’ve been able to achieve a consistent 4 deg above ambient temp drawing air from that area.

Again aFe piece seems well designed just crappy that the factory air flow path to feed the scoop is less than ideal keeping that part from achieving its full potential.

 

[Frenchy]

If you remove the radiator shroud / cowl and hold it up to the hood you can see how much of a restriction the .75in tall air path between the air scoop inlet to the 6x2 Air feed hole in the radiator shroud / cowl is. All intakes using the factory air feed from the radiator shroud / cowl area yield 6-8 hp. The factory air scoop is not a restriction as the Mishimoto intake eliminates the S shape of both the factory and aFe air scoops and still only yields 6-7 whp. Regardless of intake design they all yield the same power because they are all restricted by the design of the radiator shroud / cowl air feed.

So what happens if you don’t use the radiator shroud / cowl for your air feed source? The Injen intake (no longer made) dyno’d 13 hp / 14tq because it was an open cone filter under the hood with no restrictive air path to get to the intake pipe. Issue with that design is you are sucking in hot air so that 13hp is greatly diminished when the hood is closed (maybe why they don’t make it anymore).

https://www.cspracing.com/injen-pf9...rinkle-black-pf-cold-air-intake/inj-pf9071wb/



Not saying the aFe scoop is not a nice piece, just that the restrictive air feed design in the radiator area is the biggest problem to greater power gains from an intake perspective. I’ve looked into cutting a 3in hole in the radiator shroud / cowl in front of the air scoop inlet so the air feed doesnt pull through the narrow slit between the scoop and radiator shroud / cowl factory feed hole, but while it’s totally doable it would be warm air as there is a gap under the radiator shroud / cowl and the metal radiator support is covers.

The best option I’ve found that requires no cutting is to fit a 3in 90deg silicone elbow under the headlight and draw cold air from the lower bumper area. Now that I’ve insulated my factory airbox from heat soak (lowered idling IATs by 30deg and driving IATs by 15deg) I’ve been able to achieve a consistent 4 deg above ambient temp drawing air from that area.

Again aFe piece seems well designed just crappy that the factory air flow path to feed the scoop is less than ideal keeping that part from achieving its full potential.

Yes the factory snorkel thing is a bit weird and afe did make an improvement of sorts but if you get the scoop from velocitech then you can greatly improve that intake. Now if you dont feel like spending your money on that then it is ok but just understand that a company has already made a product that works and helps the trucks overall.

 

[importfighter01]

Yes the factory snorkel thing is a bit weird and afe did make an improvement of sorts but if you get the scoop from velocitech then you can greatly improve that intake. Now if you dont feel like spending your money on that then it is ok but just understand that a company has already made a product that works and helps the trucks overall.

For sure the Velossatech helps overcome the crappy air feed design to feed the air box scoop, but it only has it greatest effects at higher speed. If launching from a dead stop the the Velossatech cant help until halfway through your 1/4 mile run. If you aren’t trying to go as fast as possible then the factory design is a non-issue, I’m simply approaching this from a max power regardless of vehicle speed situation.

 

[sbreech]

I'm quite sure the AFE scoop doesn't do a whole lot for performance, but I'm confident that it compounds upon the other small improvements we do overall. Plus, the red looks pretty dang good with the hood open. It pretty much matches the red battery cover. ?

 

[Racket]

Took a long trip over the last couple weeks and watched my MPGs. I can't say the aFe combined with the Velossa Tech provided any extra benefits over the VT Big Mouth by itself, but perhaps over a broader environment it does? The aFe is a solid one piece and the stock Ford is a leaky two piece with some restrictions molded in to the opening.

It still seems like a nice accessory, not too outrageously priced.

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