Just updated to Sync 3.4 on my Ranger 2019

[RedlandRanger]

During this lockdown Ive been very tempted to do the update. If I do, when the genuine update comes how will we go from the leaked to genuine version?

Its just software - it would be another upgrade. You can apply the 3.4 upgrade over and over if you want. Just like if it doesn't work you can go back to 3.3. That is slightly harder since it seems they made some formatting changes for 3.4, but it is still easily possible. It's all software - which is good and bad.

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[bkosh84]

Does anyone know how to reactivate the Climate screen on an XLT? Everything I used hasn't worked (both as-built edits and enable/disable ways in Forscan). I used the APIM that was uploaded to the other topic and it worked, but it also fubar'd to many other things (namely it fubar'd my sound settings to where they couldn't be edited).

Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Mandelbloom]

Thinking of updating as well....but if it’s really gonna be out soon I will try and be patient and get then”official” update

 

[LA_F150]

Usually that indicates either a configuration problem or some issue with the language not matching the nav data. Shoot me a PM with a screengrab of the IVSU Versions diag screen.

UofM- I am wondering if you can try to help me with a very perplexing issue. I noticed your credentials and am hoping you can point me in the right direction. I recently installed a Sync3 v3.4 system w/ 8" screen, non nav, (K series hardware mfd late 2019), into my 2018 F150 - Everything with the install works fine. except, my SiriusXM will not operate properly. My original Sync3 Lite system with 4" screen came with Sirius and that works. The puck antenna insalled is dual gps / Sirius. With this new 2019 mf'd ACM it has SiriusXM and HD Radio.

Basically I think I am missing a config somewhere in the APIM or ACM that allows SiriusXM proper communication. When I go to the Sirius source in screen, it does not display any content, entering a direct channel like 0 or 2 gives me "invalid channel" response. my Sirius presets are blank, pressing one of the Sirius presets gives "invalid channel". in the Sync3 screen's Sirius settings, the ESN value field is blank.

I am getting good sat connectivity, verified by checking the APIM diagnostics area for sat signal / position. Frankly I have spent hours on this, researched a multitude of asbuilt files for 2019-2020 F150's with SiriusXM and ensured my new asbuilt files were properly and similarly configured and have all necessary new data rows. I called Sirius and they said it should work to at least get the preview channels and view ESN. Do you have any thoughts on what may be required in asbuilt data settings for the newer hardware? I thought it may have been a setting issue with APIM 7D0-08-01 xxx* xxxx xxxx governing X40 SDARS type, but I have tried all possible values with no success. I do know that a setting of 0 or A completely shuts off my GPS and Sat connectivity. I thought 6 might be appropriate. Let me know what other information I can provide. I am experienced with Forscan programming and am a systems engineer by trade.

 

[UofMEngineer]

UofM- I am wondering if you can try to help me with a very perplexing issue. I noticed your credentials and am hoping you can point me in the right direction. I recently installed a Sync3 v3.4 system w/ 8" screen, non nav, (K series hardware mfd late 2019), into my 2018 F150 - Everything with the install works fine. except, my SiriusXM will not operate properly. My original Sync3 Lite system with 4" screen came with Sirius and that works. The puck antenna insalled is dual gps / Sirius. With this new 2019 mf'd ACM it has SiriusXM and HD Radio.

Basically I think I am missing a config somewhere in the APIM or ACM that allows SiriusXM proper communication. When I go to the Sirius source in screen, it does not display any content, entering a direct channel like 0 or 2 gives me "invalid channel" response. my Sirius presets are blank, pressing one of the Sirius presets gives "invalid channel". in the Sync3 screen's Sirius settings, the ESN value field is blank.

I am getting good sat connectivity, verified by checking the APIM diagnostics area for sat signal / position. Frankly I have spent hours on this, researched a multitude of asbuilt files for 2019-2020 F150's with SiriusXM and ensured my new asbuilt files were properly and similarly configured and have all necessary new data rows. I called Sirius and they said it should work to at least get the preview channels and view ESN. Do you have any thoughts on what may be required in asbuilt data settings for the newer hardware? I thought it may have been a setting issue with APIM 7D0-08-01 xxx* xxxx xxxx governing X40 SDARS type, but I have tried all possible values with no success. I do know that a setting of 0 or A completely shuts off my GPS and Sat connectivity. I thought 6 might be appropriate. Let me know what other information I can provide. I am experienced with Forscan programming and am a systems engineer by trade.

Looks like 6, maybe 2 should be it. I don't work with the ACM config values though, so I'm not sure if anything needs to be changed there. My rigged up bench it's 2, my vehicle with the latest ACM it's 6. If you're not configured for X40, with a new ACM, then yeah it flat out won't work at all. Try 2 to start.

 

[LA_F150]

Looks like 6, maybe 2 should be it. I don't work with the ACM config values though, so I'm not sure if anything needs to be changed there. My rigged up bench it's 2, my vehicle with the latest ACM it's 6. If you're not configured for X40, with a new ACM, then yeah it flat out won't work at all. Try 2 to start.

Thank you for your reply, sincerely appreciated. 2 was the default value and present in several comparable 2019/2020 asbuilt files - So I rolled with that one first and was not getting a resolution. I tried 4, 6 and 7 (as well as all other values, for the sake of trying), with no better result. After each change I did a forced apim reset, a master screen reset, and an acm reset.

Interestingly, 2 uses some different settings than 6. I am not sure what "MS new" means vs "MS legacy", or "MN enabled" vs "MN disabled", or "CCS enabled / disabled". Is there any way you can find out if there are other asbuilt settings which control SiriusXM operation in the ACM or APIM? The ACM was brand new and had never been installed in a vehicle before, if that helps. Spoke with Sirius, gave them the SDARS EIN (KN8NADRE) and they did not see any issue with it. They were able to send a refresh signal to the unit.

2=MN enabled, MS Legacy, X40: X40 SDARS, CCS disabled
6=MN enabled, MS New, X40: X40 SDARS, CCS disabled

wondering- would the gateway module have any role in the inter-ACM/APIM communication for SiriusXM? still running the stock 2018 GWM, no changes there.

these are my present ACM and APIM values:

APIM 7D0
;Block 1
7D00101 2A2A00070034
7D00102 00290404808B
;Block 2
7D00201 55530103C046
7D00202 02408080001D
7D00203 400521
;Block 3
7D00301 0000010300DF
;Block 4
7D00401 000014030E01
7D00402 0000DD
;Block 5
7D00501 1A681A683819
7D00502 A482
;Block 6
7D00601 704E
;Block 7
7D00701 420033000054
7D00702 0000029A007C
7D00703 005656FF008C
7D00704 C8AA
;Block 8
7D00801 0002000000E2
7D00802 0000070010F8
;Block 9
7D00901 0000000000E1
7D00902 0000000000E2
7D00903 0000000000E3
7D00904 0000000000E4

ACM 727
;Block 1
7270101 1001180A91F4
7270102 0105FF000036
7270103 000000600092
;Block 2
7270201 5B8C
;Block 3
7270301 1446
;Block 4
7270401 0000005553DB
;Block 5
7270501 0012006C00B2
7270502 C60120017A97
7270503 01D4022E023D
7270504 8802E2033CE2
7270505 039603F004C8
7270506 4A0012006C01
7270507 00C601200122
7270508 7A01D4022EBA
7270509 028802E203AD
727050A 3C039603F00B
727050B 044A001200A4
727050C 6C00C6012098
;Block 6
7270601 01C602011615
7270602 020116020152
7270603 8E0201B2007A
7270604 01C602023E41
7270605 000246020285
7270606 6200026A0008
7270607 0162000112B1
7270608 00013A000178
7270609 5A00016E0006
727060A 01BA0001C2C2
727060B 0001EA000131
727060C 1600017E00DB
727060D 00FA02016EB2
727060E 0001C200010C
727060F 3A00026A00EF
72706H0 01BA0001EEF4
72706H1 00023E00018C
72706H2 EA00010E0045
;Block 7
7270701 0008002E006C
7270702 10000D002C80
7270703 005B004900DC
7270704 970037007A81
7270705 000D002C0073
7270706 5B00490009E8
7270707 0012003E008C
7270708 73002600C399
7270709 000900120059
727070A 3E00730008FE
727070B 002E00100084
727070C 97008C0052BC
;Block 8
7270801 404182034481
7270802 85064788099B
7270803 4A8B0C4D8EF5
7270804 0F509112538F
7270805 9415569718E9
7270806 599A1B5C9D43

 

[UofMEngineer]

Interestingly, 2 uses some different settings than 6. I am not sure what "MS new" means vs "MS legacy", or "MN enabled" vs "MN disabled", or "CCS enabled / disabled". Is there any way you can find out if there are other asbuilt settings which control SiriusXM operation in the ACM or APIM? The ACM was brand new and had never been installed in a vehicle before, if that helps. Spoke with Sirius, gave them the SDARS EIN (KN8NADRE) and they did not see any issue with it. They were able to send a refresh signal to the unit.

2=MN enabled, MS Legacy, X40: X40 SDARS, CCS disabled
6=MN enabled, MS New, X40: X40 SDARS, CCS disabled

MN is "Mobile Navigation". MS is some CAN messaging difference, but no idea what. CCS is the connected services. That's why my guess went with 'try 2' as it should toggle on just the X40 setting and leave everything else at default. Unfortunately I don't have the ACM diag decoder, so can't provide much more assistance.

 

[LA_F150]

MN is "Mobile Navigation". MS is some CAN messaging difference, but no idea what. CCS is the connected services. That's why my guess went with 'try 2' as it should toggle on just the X40 setting and leave everything else at default. Unfortunately I don't have the ACM diag decoder, so can't provide much more assistance.

Got it- thank you for your time on this. Is CCS important for anything going forward? Are we talking Fordpass-related connectivity data or something else?

 

[UofMEngineer]

Got it- thank you for your time on this. Is CCS important for anything going forward? Are we talking Fordpass-related connectivity data or something else?

That's for the FordPass UI items and the like IIRC.

 

[LA_F150]

That's for the FordPass UI items and the like IIRC.

good to know. thanks again, if it is ok I may have another question or two in the coming days. would it be alright if I hit you up again? basically everything I learn I write down and share it with others on the various forums as similar questions come up, or, i will document an install / mod and provide full detail for others to read. I always try to pay it forward.

 

[UofMEngineer]

good to know. thanks again, if it is ok I may have another question or two in the coming days. would it be alright if I hit you up again? basically everything I learn I write down and share it with others on the various forums as similar questions come up, or, i will document an install / mod and provide full detail for others to read. I always try to pay it forward.

Feel free.

 

[SubVet]

Anyone updating is still doing it manually. The actual Ford provided USB/OTA update is a few weeks out last I heard.

I did it manually. I'm running sync 3.4

 

[Mandelbloom]

Any word if this update is still coming soon? Also is ForScan required to get climate back ? Or is that only some people .

 

[SOHK_Alumni]

Have Sync 3.4 build 20021 on an older APIM w/nav installed in my gray 2019.

Probably 70% of time I get a Navigation fault message on startup, yet Nav works perfectly. Thinking its a timing issue in the software and maybe when the official build hits the street, that will eliminate the fault.

I love the UI presented in 3.4, but think I'll leave my blue '19 on 3.3 for now.



Confirmed -- If using the remote to unlock the doors as I walk up to the truck, no Nav fault. If I use the prox/handle to unlock, climb in and start the truck, get the Nav fault every time.

Not sure if Forscan knowledge base has anything on APIM boot timing but I'm sure there's a config setting somewhere!

 

[UofMEngineer]

Any word if this update is still coming soon?

I'll update when I know it's actually getting switched on.

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