Fuel in oil

[r1ch999999]

I’ve only used 93 but then again I have 590 miles on it.

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[Da Ranger]

What really has me worried besides the heavy stench of gas is the fact that the oil doesn’t stick to the dipstick at all but drips off of it like water. I am at 5100 miles on the original oil. Hopefully will get some answers Monday afternoon when I take my truck in.

 

[fordman89]

What’s everyone with fuel in their oil running for octane?

87 since day one.

 

[Dmax]

87 since day one.

91 since day one. Costco gasoline.

seems more people having this issue. Escalate to corporate will make the solution much easier for everyone in the end. Dealers have no incentive to explore the issue. Just say it’s normal and then fix it if it messes up. The proactive thing is to make the dealer aware but get corporate fully aware/involved. Some dealers not so easy to deal with obviously.

 

[RangersLTW]

Just checked my Ranger that was purchased new 12/31/19. 1400 on the odometer. It too is overfilled and smells of gasoline. The dipstick, like others have mentioned, drips drops of the assumed oil/gas mixture. I checked our companies 2017 Expedition with the Ecoboost that has 27k on the odometer, it also smells of gasoline and is dripping off the dipstick. Is this an Ecoboost issue or, like others have mentioned, an overly aggressive fuel pump issue?

EDIT: Ranger engine build date is August 20, 2019. Went and checked another company vehicle, a GMC Acadia with the 3.6. No smell of fuel at all. Collected the paper towel from the GMC and grabbed two more towels to confirm the difference between the Ranger and the Expedition. Both the Ranger and the Expedition definitely smell of fuel. To add a question regarding a diagnostic test on the oil, will showing proof through Blackstone help with warranty issues, especially the Bumper to Bumper? Or if a failure occurs within the powertrain warranty are we still covered regardless of the suspected fuel in the oil? I have never owned a new vehicle nor have I dealt with dealers for my other vehicles I have previously owned. Thanks,

 

[Dmax]

Just checked my Ranger that was purchased new 12/31/19. 1400 on the odometer. It too is overfilled and smells of gasoline. The dipstick, like others have mentioned, drips drops of the assumed oil/gas mixture. I checked our companies 2017 Expedition with the Ecoboost that has 27k on the odometer, it also smells of gasoline and is dripping off the dipstick. Is this an Ecoboost issue or, like others have mentioned, an overly aggressive fuel pump issue?

Thanks for follow up with other ecoboosts. No matter how this ends it seems like oil change every 3k-5k miles is a must for the long term holder of a Ranger

 

[Roaring Gorilla]

Ok, so I just read through this thread and thought I had better go check my oil. My truck has been sitting three days in an uninsulated garage because I had it parked after I had the check engine light come on this last Monday and the truck wasn't driving, in my view, like it should be.

To reiterate, my oil has been sitting for cold for three days. I popped open the hood and immediately I smelled fuel under the hood. I pulled out the dipstick and sure enough, it smelled like gasoline. I wiped it clean, reinserted, and checked my oil level again. My oil was above the maximum hole level and smelled like gas. I dabbed my fingers in the substance and went inside. I asked my girlfriend to smell my fingers (not like that!) and sure enough even she said it smelled like gas! To make sure I wasn't absolutely crazy, I popped the hood of my girl's CRV and sure enough, her oil smells like... oil.

I already was having my truck serviced because of my maintenance lights Monday morning. I was thinking that I should bring this issue up to the dealership? I don't want to be laughed out of the building or viewed like I am crazy. I am already very fearful the dealership isn't going to find much wrong with my truck in the first place. Hope anyone has some good insight for me on this. Thanks.

 

[Wade]

Ok, so I just read through this thread and thought I had better go check my oil. My truck has been sitting three days in an uninsulated garage because I had it parked after I had the check engine light come on this last Monday and the truck wasn't driving, in my view, like it should be.

To reiterate, my oil has been sitting for cold for three days. I popped open the hood and immediately I smelled fuel under the hood. I pulled out the dipstick and sure enough, it smelled like gasoline. I wiped it clean, reinserted, and checked my oil level again. My oil was above the maximum hole level and smelled like gas. I dabbed my fingers in the substance and went inside. I asked my girlfriend to smell my fingers (not like that!) and sure enough even she said it smelled like gas! To make sure I wasn't absolutely crazy, I popped the hood of my girl's CRV and sure enough, her oil smells like... oil.

I already was having my truck serviced because of my maintenance lights Monday morning. I was thinking that I should bring this issue up to the dealership? I don't want to be laughed out of the building or viewed like I am crazy. I am already very fearful the dealership isn't going to find much wrong with my truck in the first place. Hope anyone has some good insight for me on this. Thanks.

If her CRV has the 1.5 liter turbo, that is a vehicle that is extremely notorious for extreme fuel dilution in the oil. So not surprising that hers would also smell like gas.

 

[Roaring Gorilla]

If her CRV has the 1.5 liter turbo, that is a vehicle that is extremely notorious for extreme fuel dilution in the oil. So not surprising that hers would also smell like gas.

Her's actually smells like oil. Sorry if that was unclear.

Mine definitely smells like gasoline in the oil.

 

[Wade]

Her's actually smells like oil. Sorry if that was unclear.

Mine definitely smells like gasoline in the oil.

Oh no totally clear, my reading comprehension just needs work

 

[Wade]

Just checked my Ranger that was purchased new 12/31/19. 1400 on the odometer. It too is overfilled and smells of gasoline. The dipstick, like others have mentioned, drips drops of the assumed oil/gas mixture. I checked our companies 2017 Expedition with the Ecoboost that has 27k on the odometer, it also smells of gasoline and is dripping off the dipstick. Is this an Ecoboost issue or, like others have mentioned, an overly aggressive fuel pump issue?

EDIT: Ranger engine build date is August 20, 2019. Went and checked another company vehicle, a GMC Acadia with the 3.6. No smell of fuel at all. Collected the paper towel from the GMC and grabbed two more towels to confirm the difference between the Ranger and the Expedition. Both the Ranger and the Expedition definitely smell of fuel. To add a question regarding a diagnostic test on the oil, will showing proof through Blackstone help with warranty issues, especially the Bumper to Bumper? Or if a failure occurs within the powertrain warranty are we still covered regardless of the suspected fuel in the oil? I have never owned a new vehicle nor have I dealt with dealers for my other vehicles I have previously owned. Thanks,

I would say that having the oil analysis results is good for dealing with Ford corporate, and especially good to have if it turns into a lemon law issue. However the dealer probably won't accept it for anything. They are going to fight tooth and nail to not have to do anything, because they have other more obvious jobs that could take up their time and result in easy warranty work checks from Ford or from paying customers. However, if you have a really good relationship with your dealer, things might be different.

 

[RangersLTW]

Good deal thanks for the replies. I just ordered a kit from Blackstone and it should be here in about 1-2 weeks. With the Ranger oil already smelling of gasoline at 1400 miles should I be concerned enough to get the oil changed ASAP or continue driving as I have? I also have a few road trips planned to rather remote areas and would prefer to not get stranded. Is there any driving habits or issues that would cause more or less fuel to build up in the oil in the meantime before the Blackstone kit arrives? I have heard mentions of cold starts and remote starts being supposed contributing factors to gasoline buildup.

 

[Dmax]

If taking it in to dealer. Take pics of dipstick cold. Then, when you go in should be higher. The crankcase is over filled. No Bueno. That should be the issue as well as oil smell

 

[Doc]

Good deal thanks for the replies. I just ordered a kit from Blackstone and it should be here in about 1-2 weeks. With the Ranger oil already smelling of gasoline at 1400 miles should I be concerned enough to get the oil changed ASAP or continue driving as I have? I also have a few road trips planned to rather remote areas and would prefer to not get stranded. Is there any driving habits or issues that would cause more or less fuel to build up in the oil in the meantime before the Blackstone kit arrives? I have heard mentions of cold starts and remote starts being supposed contributing factors to gasoline buildup.

Change it ...take another sample cya.
Regards

 

[MINI Ranger]

If taking it in to dealer. Take pics of dipstick cold. Then, when you go in should be higher. The crankcase is over filled. No Bueno. That should be the issue as well as oil smell

A good point that I haven't read in this thread is the downside of overfilled crankcase, especially in modern engines. In the old days, overfilling was blown off with "no problem, it'll burn off", and in the old days that's what happened. The PVC valve was replaced regularly as a maintenance item.

My experience with MINI turbocharged engines and overfilled crankcases was that those engines would develop carbon on the backs of the valves and require expensive repairs requiring intake manifold removal and blasting the carbon away with abrasives.
The excess oil in the engine would flood the oil separator system and allow liquid oil into the intake manifold which would then enter intake and cook onto the backs of the valves. Some blamed this on Direct Injection fuel systems, but the difference between port injection and direct injection is how the fuel enters the combustion chamber. Port injection tends to self clean the backs of the intake valves, where direct injection enters directly into the combustion chamber, so no cleaning or cooling affect from atomotized fuel spray.
I still have not found the answer to how the Ranger dipstick is marked. Mine has two holes and a hatched area that starts at the lower hole and stops before the top hole. The owners manual does not picture my dipstick and instead shows hatched area stopping at upper hole.
Is the upper hole full mark or the top of the hatched area? Ive had two dealer oil changes and one was at top of hatch, the other was between top hatched area and upper hole.
With fuel added to my oil, it is above upper hole when checked after sitting overnight.

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