What did you do WITH your Ranger today?

[5thranger]

I installed the PPE deep pan on my 23 with 9,000 miles. Went ahead and replaced the filter too. I have the #30 Fitzstick prototype and I’m so glad lol. It took right about 8.5 quarts to fill it and I added a 15 ounce bottle of Lubeguard Platinum. I also reset the adaptives, so I’ll give it some time to “relearn”. Note the lack of an auxiliary pump since it’s came with the factory without auto stop-start.

Are you a Ford technician? Just curious what a Ford dealership service department says about pan and dipstick.

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[Andrew27]

Are you a Ford technician? Just curious what a Ford dealership service department says about pan and dipstick.

No, I’m a technician at my family owned independent shop. I do all the maintenance on it, so I’m not too worried what they think lol.

 

[5thranger]

No, I’m a technician at my family owned independent shop. I do all the maintenance on it, so I’m not too worried what they think lol.

Just curious if it came to warranty work.

 

[Andrew27]

Just curious if it came to warranty work.

Yeah I’ve wondered that too. I plan to have it as my daily driver for at least the next decade, so I see it as maintenance/parts to help it last longer than without. Makes sense to me anyway?.

 

[OGMix376]

Did you discuss the possibility of a can of whoop ass being opened on him?

Hahaha no I didn’t have too, he knows he can’t take it there with me and be successful, so it hasn’t been needed for me to “puff my chest so to speak.”.. honestly he’s a good guy just kinda selfish and lazy at times. But it’s always in the back pocket as an absolute last resort.

 

[5thranger]

Hahaha no I didn’t have too, he knows he can’t take it there with me and be successful, so it hasn’t been needed for me to “puff my chest so to speak.”.. honestly he’s a good guy just kinda selfish and lazy at times. But it’s always in the back pocket as an absolute last resort.

Sounds like every B-I-L I have had.

 

[OGMix376]

Just curious if it came to warranty work.

I spoke to a service writer at the ford store in Morgan hill ca. (not the service manager.) he was telling me that it’s highly likely that ford co will try to argue the pan could be the cause of trans failure and the same with the fitzstick.. he was just a service writer not the manager.. so his word may not be final.. taking to the one of the service techs said it would be awesome if the ranger had a transmission dipstick?.. long story short.. it’s highly likely you get in a bit of a battle with a warranty claim with ford trying to say the trans failed due to a aftermarket modification and snake their way out of the claim..but it could be argued that it can’t be proven the pan or dipstick had anything to do with the failure as well.. anyway it’s annoying that it’s a concern because that PPE and MBS dipstick are the business ? looking forward to eventually getting both.

 

[AzScorpion]

I spoke to a service writer at the ford store in Morgan hill ca. (not the service manager.) he was telling me that it’s highly likely that ford co will try to argue the pan could be the cause of trans failure and the same with the fitzstick.. he was just a service writer not the manager.. so his word may not be final.. taking to the one of the service techs said it would be awesome if the ranger had a transmission dipstick?.. long story short.. it’s highly likely you get in a bit of a battle with a warranty claim with ford trying to say the trans failed due to a aftermarket modification and snake their way out of the claim..but it could be argued that it can’t be proven the pan or dipstick had anything to do with the failure as well.. anyway it’s annoying that it’s a concern because that PPE and MBS dipstick are the business ? looking forward to eventually getting both.

It's pretty sad that they can even try and argue about something that should've been stock (Fitz stick) would/could void the warranty!

 

[LawnMM]

Just curious if it came to warranty work.

Speaking with the service guy I've dealt with he's of the opinion if the change caused the failure they're off the hook.

We were discussing all the aftermarket lifts guys install. So if you do that and blow your ball joints, not really on Ford to warranty the joints when you altered the suspension and didn't take care to do supportive work like control arms to avoid taxing linkage and such. Made sense to me.

I spoke to a service writer at the ford store in Morgan hill ca. (not the service manager.) he was telling me that it’s highly likely that ford co will try to argue the pan could be the cause of trans failure and the same with the fitzstick.. he was just a service writer not the manager.. so his word may not be final.. taking to the one of the service techs said it would be awesome if the ranger had a transmission dipstick?.. long story short.. it’s highly likely you get in a bit of a battle with a warranty claim with ford trying to say the trans failed due to a aftermarket modification and snake their way out of the claim..but it could be argued that it can’t be proven the pan or dipstick had anything to do with the failure as well.. anyway it’s annoying that it’s a concern because that PPE and MBS dipstick are the business ? looking forward to eventually getting both.

Opinions vary. I'd feel out the one at your dealership and if this is a what you're hearing go elsewhere. Forge a new relationship.

 

[KNI]

Got an update on my Raptor.

Intercooler condensation water buildup induced hydrolock. Busted up connecting rods and crack shaft. Time for new engine and goes to warranty.

 

[ControlNode]

Got an update on my Raptor.

Intercooler condensation water buildup induced hydrolock. Busted up connecting rods and crack shaft. Time for new engine and goes to warranty.

Ouch, that is a similar issue the old EcoBoost F150s had in the US if I recall correctly. It's also supposedly one of the reasons the Focus RS has part of the intercooler blocked off, they found it too efficient and resulted in some condensation in the intercooler, but by blocking off the first 5-6" (127-152mm) they could get it within reasonable levels.

 

[Grumpaw]

Speaking with the service guy I've dealt with he's of the opinion if the change caused the failure they're off the hook.

We were discussing all the aftermarket lifts guys install. So if you do that and blow your ball joints, not really on Ford to warranty the joints when you altered the suspension and didn't take care to do supportive work like control arms to avoid taxing linkage and such. Made sense to me.

Opinions vary. I'd feel out the one at your dealership and if this is a what you're hearing go elsewhere. Forge a new relationship.

I talked with a Ford Master Tech a few months ago and specifically asked him about warranty and the addition of the Fitzstick and a deep Mishimoto trans pan (i had not installed it yet).
He was of the opinion that the Fitzstick would not cause any problems as it was just a measuring device similar to an oil dipstick.
However, he did indicate that adding a deep trans pan, and the addition of 2 extra quarts of tranny fluid, would, if you had trans problems, void any warranty work on the tranny. Basically said that Ford could use the excuse that you had added too much or not enough fluid to coominsate for the deep pan.
He also indicated that it would not be up to the tech for determination, but that pics of any add-on parts would have to be submitted and it would be up to "the higher-ups to determine and approve warranty.
As I have the extended warranty good for 120,000 miles, I did not install the pan, but sold it.
This info was just from one tech, and others may have a different take on it.

 

[ControlNode]

I talked with a Ford Master Tech a few months ago and specifically asked him about warranty and the addition of the Fitzstick and a deep Mishimoto trans pan (i had not installed it yet).
He was of the opinion that the Fitzstick would not cause any problems as it was just a measuring device similar to an oil dipstick.
However, he did indicate that adding a deep trans pan, and the addition of 2 extra quarts of tranny fluid, would, if you had trans problems, void any warranty work on the tranny. Basically said that Ford could use the excuse that you had added too much or not enough fluid to coominsate for the deep pan.
He also indicated that it would not be up to the tech for determination, but that pics of any add-on parts would have to be submitted and it would be up to "the higher-ups to determine and approve warranty.
As I have the extended warranty good for 120,000 miles, I did not install the pan, but sold it.
This info was just from one tech, and others may have a different take on it.

I've not installed my PPE yet even though it's not the deep version. Because if Ford wanted to really be sticklers, they could claim that by changing the material of the pan, and with the added cooling fins, you've changed the thermal properties they targeted for the fluid. I fear that even without logs showing the fluid was outside the spec they targeted; they would use that to "justify" a change to temps that could have caused the issue. IMO, the only way the Fitzstick would be a warranty issue is if they can prove something was introduced into the transmission as part of installation or from the stick after installation, some part chipping off the inner hose or something.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

My dealer installed my Fitzstick in the new transmission they installed under warranty. They first confirmed fluid level with the OEM stick and then installed the Fitzstick and re confirmed level.

 

[dano42]

Went back in the hills yesterday- still a fair amount of water even though we haven’t got much rain
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