Turn off adaptive transmission process!

[TJC]

The biggest misconception is that the transmission learns your DRIVING STYLE. What it learns is to adjust various parameters to account for manufacturing tolerances and wear to maintain a consistent driving quality.

Someone ought to get that message to my transmission! Here is what mine does

What it learns is to adjust various parameters to account for manufacturing tolerances and wear to maintain an INCONSISTENT driving quality.

If your statement is truly Ford's objective, then they failed miserably, at least with regards to my truck. I have never driven it hard. I have not played with Tow or Sport modes. But based upon others experience, I think it is time to explore them both.

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[Wang.S]

I have never driven it hard. I have not played with Tow or Sport modes. But based upon others experience, I think it is time to explore them both.

I think it is time.......push that pedal through the floor boards and shred some rubber.
Let us know how it goes.

 

[TICKLE ZOMBIE]

I’ve notice that the only issues with my transmission are when it’s about to shift in the next gear but I have to let off the gas because the idiots in front of me decide to slow down for whatever reason for no apparent reason.
My truck loves to run and hates stop and go traffic as well.
Also notice up shifts are better in sport mode but downshifts are better in “regular mode”.

 

[NOVA_Ranger]

While I'd love to hammer on Ford, after working through some of the transmission issues mentioned across this forum, at the end of day I'm more inclined to blame the regulators who push 'standards' on automakers. The common denominator for most of the issues I've had with vehicles (various makes) stem from manufacturers' attempts to extend mileage, reduce emissions, etc. and meet federal standards that are excessive IMHO. Same deal when I research a vehicle that I'm interested in and fall out of my chair after seeing the price.

I get the need for efficiency/emissions standards, but I also believe that the federal government often pushes things too far. A prime example is the unrelenting push for more EVs, an emerging technology that is simply 'not there' yet. Bottom line for me is the federal government should back off and let manufacturers do their thing, something we'll never see in our lifetime (on any topic).

Just food for thought (and a little complaining on my part) as we discuss enduring transmission issues, trucks lugging due to emission sensors, etc. I don't think it is fair to only blame Ford, or any automaker for these types of issues.

 

[got3fords]

I get the need for efficiency/emissions standards, but I also believe that the federal government often pushes things too far. A prime example is the unrelenting push for more EVs, an emerging technology that is simply 'not there' yet. Bottom line for me is the federal government should back off and let manufacturers do their thing, something we'll never see in our lifetime (on any topic).

Uh oh, hope you didn't offend anybody!. But totally agree.

 

[Rp930]

The fix: https://www.performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-9603-REB

 

[TJC]

While I'd love to hammer on Ford, after working through some of the transmission issues mentioned across this forum, at the end of day I'm more inclined to blame the regulators who push 'standards' on automakers. The common denominator for most of the issues I've had with vehicles (various makes) stem from manufacturers' attempts to extend mileage, reduce emissions, etc. and meet federal standards that are excessive IMHO. Same deal when I research a vehicle that I'm interested in and fall out of my chair after seeing the price.

I get the need for efficiency/emissions standards, but I also believe that the federal government often pushes things too far. A prime example is the unrelenting push for more EVs, an emerging technology that is simply 'not there' yet. Bottom line for me is the federal government should back off and let manufacturers do their thing, something we'll never see in our lifetime (on any topic).

Just food for thought (and a little complaining on my part) as we discuss enduring transmission issues, trucks lugging due to emission sensors, etc. I don't think it is fair to only blame Ford, or any automaker for these types of issues.

I just purchased a mechanical SpeedQueen washing machine that I didn't really need for the very reasons that you site. It is going to sit in the box until the present front loader dies in a few years. The Feds are dinking with every appliance product on the market, adversely affecting price, functionality, longevity, and efficiency.

 

[NOVA_Ranger]

I just purchased a mechanical SpeedQueen washing machine that I didn't really need for the very reasons that you site. It is going to sit in the box until the present front loader dies in a few years. The Feds are dinking with every appliance product on the market, adversely affecting price, functionality, longevity, and efficiency.

Agreed, the new washer and dryer set we got was expensive and they will never last as long as the previous ones. Not a chance. It is frustrating to say the least. "Thanks government", haha.

 

[NOVA_Ranger]

Uh oh, hope you didn't offend anybody!. But totally agree.

Meanwhile, millions of people in other countries are driving trucks that get 2 MPGs and are burn 6 quarts of oil per day, on a good day.

 

[got3fords]

Meanwhile, millions of people in other countries are driving trucks that get 2 MPGs and are burn 6 quarts of oil per day, on a good day.

Yep. The U.S. is likely one of the leaders in so-called carbon reduction. But to what end? CO2 is not a pollutant. And CO2 levels have been much higher at points in earth's history even before the industrial revolution. Even coinciding with ice periods.

 

[importfighter01]

The turning off transmission adaptive learning function appeared in Forscan for my 2020 and the function executed successfully. I cleared KAM and adaptive KAM while I was at it and will test drive tomorrow. Removing the Ford Performance tune to run Forscan and reinstalling after was trouble free too. In the past the adaptive learning kicks in the transmission weirdness after 20 min or so of driving after I’ve reset it in the past, so I’ll take it for a spin tomorrow and report back as I should be able to tell pretty quick if it worked.

 

[ctechbob]

While I'd love to hammer on Ford, after working through some of the transmission issues mentioned across this forum, at the end of day I'm more inclined to blame the regulators who push 'standards' on automakers. The common denominator for most of the issues I've had with vehicles (various makes) stem from manufacturers' attempts to extend mileage, reduce emissions, etc. and meet federal standards that are excessive IMHO. Same deal when I research a vehicle that I'm interested in and fall out of my chair after seeing the price.

I get the need for efficiency/emissions standards, but I also believe that the federal government often pushes things too far. A prime example is the unrelenting push for more EVs, an emerging technology that is simply 'not there' yet. Bottom line for me is the federal government should back off and let manufacturers do their thing, something we'll never see in our lifetime (on any topic).

Just food for thought (and a little complaining on my part) as we discuss enduring transmission issues, trucks lugging due to emission sensors, etc. I don't think it is fair to only blame Ford, or any automaker for these types of issues.

I think that while you can pin a lot of it on the EPA and Ford, there's also another source.

The public

We've turned trucks from beasts of burden into our everyday drivers and family vehicles. Mom wants a truck, but doesn't want something that feels like a truck, so you have to soften everything up, from the suspensions to the shifts. So you go from things built to do one job, to something that is trying to be a jack of all trades, and that usually never works out well.

Soft slow shifts have have usually been the downfall of autoboxes. The quicker you can complete the shift, the quicker you can stop clutches and plates from sliding, wearing, and shedding their wear particles into the fluid. Now they have to be squishy soft and something has to give.

 

[Jason B]

I think that while you can pin a lot of it on the EPA and Ford, there's also another source.

The public

We've turned trucks from beasts of burden into our everyday drivers and family vehicles. Mom wants a truck, but doesn't want something that feels like a truck, so you have to soften everything up, from the suspensions to the shifts. So you go from things built to do one job, to something that is trying to be a jack of all trades, and that usually never works out well.

Soft slow shifts have have usually been the downfall of autoboxes. The quicker you can complete the shift, the quicker you can stop clutches and plates from sliding, wearing, and shedding their wear particles into the fluid. Now they have to be squishy soft and something has to give.

Totally agree about soft shifts, but there are some here that think the deliberate 'hard shifts' are a sign of a faulty design.

 

[TJC]

I think there is a middle ground, although my 2005 Ranger shift is hard. The tech used in my 2023 CX-5 is quite remarkable, it actually shifts perfectly. almost as if it has a clutch. IN fact I think Mazda has built in a automatic clutch technology into it.

It sure feels like it!

 

[RangerFitz]

The turning off transmission adaptive learning function appeared in Forscan for my 2020 and the function executed successfully. I cleared KAM and adaptive KAM while I was at it and will test drive tomorrow. Removing the Ford Performance tune to run Forscan and reinstalling after was trouble free too. In the past the adaptive learning kicks in the transmission weirdness after 20 min or so of driving after I’ve reset it in the past, so I’ll take it for a spin tomorrow and report back as I should be able to tell pretty quick if it worked.

Got us hanging on the edge of our chairs here..

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