Tremor on New 285's !!

[Wes Siler]

Damn dude, I was just asking a question. Chill out. Silly things? Quite the ego.

The original poster was suggesting a 1.5" spacer, which isn't dramatically different than the 1" you are saying is required for a 32-34". I have yet to hear anyone on here mention wheel bearing failures from such a small amount of offset change. I also highly doubt the difference between a 1" spacer and a 1.5" spacer results in trucks that "drive like shit".

Also, Stage3 sells 1.5" spacers on their site as well. Guess they don't get it.

x2 per axle, so total change there is an inch. That's quite a bit when it come to suspension geometry. Think of the tiny tweaks made during an alignment that add up to really significant changes in how your truck handles.

I ran zero offsets on my first Ranger for a while (buddy hooked up a set and I didn't want to offend him), swapping them off made a fairly significant change in how the vehicle drove.

It's also worth remembering that all the changes we make are cumulative. Some suboptimal offset here, a heavy tire there, a little suspension, some heightened center of gravity, a little too little tire pressure, some extra weight...a few small compromises in how any of that is spec'd and suddenly you end up with a truck that really doesn't drive well. Often we add this stuff incrementally, so it's kinda the boiling-a-frog effect in that we don't notice how much we're reducing performance/handling over time. But if you switch back to a stock vehicle, it's suddenly shocking to realize what you've done. And none of this is cheap, so I think it's worth putting some good advice out there.

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[RangerPNW]

x2 per axle, so total change there is an inch. That's quite a bit when it come to suspension geometry. Think of the tiny tweaks made during an alignment that add up to really significant changes in how your truck handles.

I ran zero offsets on my first Ranger for a while (buddy hooked up a set and I didn't want to offend him), swapping them off made a fairly significant change in how the vehicle drove.

It's also worth remembering that all the changes we make are cumulative. Some suboptimal offset here, a heavy tire there, a little suspension, some heightened center of gravity, a little too little tire pressure, some extra weight...a few small compromises in how any of that is spec'd and suddenly you end up with a truck that really doesn't drive well. Often we add this stuff incrementally, so it's kinda the boiling-a-frog effect in that we don't notice how much we're reducing performance/handling over time. But if you switch back to a stock vehicle, it's suddenly shocking to realize what you've done. And none of this is cheap, so I think it's worth putting some good advice out there.

The advice is solid, and facts are always welcome. However you come across as a jerk when you start calling people's choice in mods silly. Yes we all have those opinions, but if you are trying to be helpful its usually a good idea not to talk down to people in the same sentence.

 

[OFC Ranger]

What is your problem with Motorcycle Riders and HAM Operators, Jack? Painting with a pretty broad brush aren't you saying they are "the most selfish self-entitled group of enthusiasts on the face of the planet"..... Sheesh

Its just a joke Francis calm down. I basically named a bunch of cliche stereotypes. That is what we call a clue for the punch line.

My ex-father in law was the epitome of a walking talking cliche. Ex-submariner who always asked for a discount when the bill came instead of letting it be offered.

Consider the source Phil. I'm at a loss for words from ANYONE who has a problem with Vets getting any kind of discounts! As far as I'm concerned they should have a free ride for putting their life on the line for our country! But some don't realize they're free to express their BS because of them.

I'm not surprised you misunderstand my comments.

No where, in any part of my post, did anyone say anything about having a problem with vets receiving discounts.

Then again you are a vindictive individual who can't can't control himself when he has a chip on his shoulder. Try and resist what you want to do once you read this. Change my mind.

Edit: Honestly I'm not even sure what you are referring to when you say "the source". Maybe you can clue me in.

 

[AzScorpion]

Its just a joke Francis calm down. I basically named a bunch of cliche stereotypes. That is what we call a clue for the punch line.

My ex-father in law was the epitome of a walking talking cliche. Ex-submariner who always asked for a discount when the bill came instead of letting it be offered.





I'm not surprised you misunderstand my comments.

No where, in any part of my post, did anyone say anything about having a problem with vets receiving discounts.

Then again you are a vindictive individual who can't can't control himself when he has a chip on his shoulder. Try and resist what you want to do once you read this. Change my mind.

You're saying Vets are just as selfish and a self entitled group as you lumped them in with all there rest you were ranting about.

As far as someone who has a chip on his shoulder? You'd really better stand back and take a very long look in your own mirror!

Automotive/Motorcycle people are by far the most selfish self-entitled group of enthusiasts on the face of the planet. Brotruckers probably take the cake out of the whole lot if speaking strictly on poke.

Ok, HAM operators probably take the crown overall, but still.

Them and Vietnam vets in regards to restaurant discounts.

 

[MXGOLF]

Got the 285/70-17 Goodyear Duratracs put on today.
Here it is sitting on stock suspension (NO level and NO wheel spacers)
Definitely WONT Fit w/o cutting/trimming the Crash bars. I plan to get the Readylift crash bars and have already ordered the 1" level and 1.5" wheel spacers (I want a little poke ?)

LOVE how it's turning out.

I have the readylift crash bars that I did not use and are for sale!! PM Me if you want them.

 

[Msfitoy]

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[FoD]

...
No one has fought for OUR country since WW2. Most have fought for other's counties. And what really sucks is that those other countries have no sense of appreciation for them doing it.

Jason,

Being "In Service" to country means doing what you have to do to meet your obligation in serving. Serving means doing what your Country needs you to do, to the best of your ability.

Part of paying back the privilege to be whatever you are and whatever you do.

Only you can appreciate what you've done (or didn't) and appreciation by others is just the gravy ?

Regards,

Terry

 

[Jason B]

Jason,

Being "In Service" to country means doing what you have to do to meet your obligation in serving. Serving means doing what your Country needs you to do, to the best of your ability.

Part of paying back the privilege to be whatever you are and whatever you do.

Only you can appreciate what you've done (or didn't) and appreciation by others is just the gravy ?

Regards,

Terry

Well said.
And I think I was crossing the line when I said no one has fought for OUR country since WW2.
Millions have served our country since, and I appreciated that, whether it was in war time or peace time.

 

[D Fresh]

All the shit always goes down while I'm sleeping.

R.I.P.

 

[Jason B]

All the shit always goes down while I'm sleeping.

R.I.P.

As they say, "You snooze, you lose", literally in this case.

 

[Copperhead_Tremor]

Well this thread went a very different direction than I intended. ?

 

[Jason B]

Well this thread went a very different direction than I intended. ?

 

[RangerPNW]

Well this thread went a very different direction than I intended. ?

Seems to be the trend lately...

Looking forward to hearing any feedback on the duratracs in that size. I'm on the fence about getting another set when I upgrade to your size just because mine are a little on the noisy side (especially at 50-60), and i do a lot of highway miles...

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

 

[Jason B]

Well, to get back on topic, that truck does look bad ass. And OP takes great photos to show it off.

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