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Not necessarily true. Depending on steel temper and diameter can definitely change things. My suspicion is one has less travel then the other in compression so it could possibly be slightly stiffer but also allow easier extension. That depends on valving too
Diameter - yes

Temper - no
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Diameter - yes

Temper - no
Every spring in a lot goes through the entire length of the furnaces. This means that each bar, and therefore each spring, gets a consistent heat treatment and is not dependent on its position in the furnace. This is a distinct advantage over batch processes where each spring receives a different heat treatment depending on where and when the material is placed in the furnace.
 

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I just got the FP Fox 2.0 and have been enjoying it. It seems to be better in any and all ways than stock was. I was also all for the extra two coils in the springs and the FP tuning, for a slight price difference. It could be that Fox was trying to hit a certain price point with theirs and made it cheaper whereas the FP clearly did not.
 

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So (from a rear shock perspective) I can now say that the Eibachs are actually damped a bit firmer than the Fox 2.0s.

When installing the Eibachs there was no way in hell I could compress them by hand. The Fox 2.0s were pretty tough but I was able to do it. I can say for certain that I'm not getting any stronger so there's your anecdotal proof. ?
I'm not so sure about that. Everything I've read over the years and learned from guys who tune suspensions is that hand cycling a shock will not tell you which one is more firm than the other. The extremely slow compression by hand is only giving you an idea of how the oil travels through the various ports at such a slow speed. ?‍♂
 

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I'm not so sure about that. Everything I've read over the years and learned from guys who tune suspensions is that hand cycling a shock will not tell you which one is more firm than the other. The extremely slow compression by hand is only giving you an idea of how the oil travels through the various ports at such a slow speed. ?‍♂
Hi Shea,

You are correct....Shocks are velocity devices and hand cycling cannot be at a velocity by hand to tell anything about relative "stiffness". You need curves for all the shocks off the shock dyno to compare.... Used to be called Football curves. May be different now....do not know....
 


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I'm not so sure about that. Everything I've read over the years and learned from guys who tune suspensions is that hand cycling a shock will not tell you which one is more firm than the other. The extremely slow compression by hand is only giving you an idea of how the oil travels through the various ports at such a slow speed. ?‍♂
I was told that the seals are tight when new and it has nothing to do with the valving or the oil.
 

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Seems to be knowledgeable suspension talk going on here, so I wanna ask here. Got a 21 tremor which comes with fox shocks of some sorts, I want to level the front, but don't want to stiffen the ride any or mess up the handling. What components should I be looking at, don't think spacers is the right way to go. Thanks!
 

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Seems to be knowledgeable suspension talk going on here, so I wanna ask here. Got a 21 tremor which comes with fox shocks of some sorts, I want to level the front, but don't want to stiffen the ride any or mess up the handling. What components should I be looking at, don't think spacers is the right way to go. Thanks!
Can you post a picture I'm curious to see them. I've read that the new coils add a 20mm lift to the truck and that there are remote reservoirs.
 

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There is reservoirs on the rear shocks but nothing on the front. As far as the front being lifted a bit more than the others Maybe but there's still about a two and a half inch difference between the front and rear of the truck.

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I can't speak on the Fox 2.5 DSC out of the box, mine were custom tuned by Accutune and they are indeed in the softest setting far softer riding than the stiff bouncy FX4 suspension.
There is so much confusion and opinions with shocks and springs. I thought FX4 was the softest around?
 

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There is so much confusion and opinions with shocks and springs. I thought FX4 was the softest around?
The front is terrible it’s like riding in a 1990 Cadillac with worn out shocks it never settles it’s constantly wallowing up and down and feels sketchy on twisty roads, the rear is stiff enough that it feels as if the rear axle is leaving the ground over joints in bridges. The Fox 2.5 DSC fixes the front wallow and makes the handling much more confidence inspiring without making it stiff and the rear is far softer than the fx4 shocks the rear feels much better and planted however the rear springs generally suck too they aren’t very forgiving which is my I’m going with a progressive multi leaf pack.
 

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After seeing the Tremor front shocks it doesn’t look like it has an adjustment collar. Is there clip grooves for changing the length of the spring compression? If that’s what it is ??‍♂
 

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After seeing the Tremor front shocks it doesn’t look like it has an adjustment collar. Is there clip grooves for changing the length of the spring compression? If that’s what it is ??‍♂
No, the tremor doesn't have adjustable shocks. From what I have read and can see.
 

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Seems to be knowledgeable suspension talk going on here, so I wanna ask here. Got a 21 tremor which comes with fox shocks of some sorts, I want to level the front, but don't want to stiffen the ride any or mess up the handling. What components should I be looking at, don't think spacers is the right way to go. Thanks!
Spacers are the way lift it without affecting the spring rate and stiffness.
 

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Spacers are the way lift it without affecting the spring rate and stiffness.
Are you sure, I don't think that's right. I'm no expert on suspension and probably the most difficult thing for me to understand. But anytime I've done just spacers I have made my truck ride rougher I was not happy with the performance of them.
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