Some dyno results for the naysayers.

[Loweredon33s]

I got family there.

Me too… well obviously ?

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[Loweredon33s]

Interesting. I have one on my stock airbox with an aftermarket dry filter. I have a Livernois tuner an used to run the 91-93 tune but I got so much wheel spin I think I'm just as quick with the lower octane tune running 89 octane fuel. I replaced the stock muffler but kept the factory pipes too.

I will be selling that inlet pipe if I trade the ranger for a bronco. From what I'm finding the Bronco is half a second slower to 60 an in the qtr as the ranger with the same powertrain. From what I'm seeing the Ford performance tune is the only one or main one available.

I know there's major variations but dyno data is always fun.

I have found a lot of tunes/tuners allow for a huge swell of torque around 3k that almost always knocks the tires loose but doesn’t last long enough to keep that momentum going. The inlet pipe makes the turbo spool easier which probably increases the size of the swell. I’ve never dyno tested the pipe on anyone else’s tune but our own. I drove a 2.7 base Bronco 2 door the other day and was not impressed by it. I’m sure it would be a different animal modded and tuned but…. I hope the 2.3 feels better than that.

 

[XL GT]

Just throwing this out there, but maybe the @importfighter01 fender intake mod would also help with sucking more air/cold air with your Whale Dick intake?

 

[Loweredon33s]

Just throwing this out there, but maybe the @importfighter01 fender intake mod would also help with sucking more air/cold air with your Whale Dick intake?

Whale dick faces forward, at least this version does. Injen faces rearward though. I’m not familiar with his mod but I’d assume anything that sends a volume of air towards the filter is beneficial. When I was getting my vents painted I realized how much louder the intake is with the vents out! Kinda makes me want to do scoops or something.
PS, I now hate you because you just made me start drawing a fender scoop design ?

 

[Loweredon33s]

I was pointing out the lack of IC charge pipes.

Performance gains are cumulative with equipment changes (and tuning). We can argue that performance gains - when small - could be nothing more than some environmental differences but a holistic design end to end would make the kind of power the Mustang crowd is through modding.

This graph is a great example of the way mods work on untuned Rangers. If you notice it only affects the very beginning and then the last 1200 or so rpm. This is because the middle range of our engines is being held back from knocking the rods out of the side of the block. Engine management will not allow much extra power in the middle without tuning. These parts all work together to extend the useable power range through, the tune then allows the gross power to increase while using the improved efficiency of the aftermarket parts to reduce the strain on the turbo resulting in a broader, smoother curve with better spooling and throttle response. Disclaimer….. THIS IS NOT MY GRAPH! I have no idea what was done to actually achieve this but if they were honest in their presentation (I have no reason to believe that they weren’t) this is similar to my experience with parts installed on untuned Rangers.

 

[XL GT]

Whale dick faces forward, at least this version does. Injen faces rearward though. I’m not familiar with his mod but I’d assume anything that sends a volume of air towards the filter is beneficial. When I was getting my vents painted I realized how much louder the intake is with the vents out! Kinda makes me want to do scoops or something.
PS, I now hate you because you just made me start drawing a fender scoop design ?

The @importfighter01 thread is called Fender Airbox Feed. Page 1 explains the how-to and some pics, and page 3 has some other pics from someone else who did it also.

 

[Loweredon33s]

The @importfighter01 thread is called Fender Airbox Feed. Page 1 explains the how-to and some pics, and page 3 has some other pics from someone else who did it also.

Thanks, I just read through some of it. I might try something similar. I have been toying around with fabricating a set of vents ever since I had my stock ones removed for paint last year.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I have found a lot of tunes/tuners allow for a huge swell of torque around 3k that almost always knocks the tires loose but doesn’t last long enough to keep that momentum going. The inlet pipe makes the turbo spool easier which probably increases the size of the swell. I’ve never dyno tested the pipe on anyone else’s tune but our own. I drove a 2.7 base Bronco 2 door the other day and was not impressed by it. I’m sure it would be a different animal modded and tuned but…. I hope the 2.3 feels better than that.

That's just what small turbos do. Increase the boost, and you get more power where the turbo is efficient. Boost ramping could help here, but there is only so much of that, that can be done on a small turbo.

That said, people want to feel a difference. The easiest way is to run the boost up and let the natural curve take place.

 

[Loweredon33s]

That's just what small turbos do. Increase the boost, and you get more power where the turbo is efficient. Boost ramping could help here, but there is only so much of that, that can be done on a small turbo.

That said, people want to feel a difference. The easiest way is to run the boost up and let the natural curve take place.

I prefer having the curve flattened by the tune and stretched out some. That stuff is hard on rods and pistons and doesn’t really make anything faster.

 

[yamahaSHO]

Obviously that is ideal, however, small turbos don't really allow that. From a tuning perspective, dealing with mostly non-car guy customer base, you'll find many just running the power up where it will be easy. Peak numbers and 0-60 times are metrics to sell to the masses.

You won't get this sort of curve without a larger turbo.

 

[Loweredon33s]

Obviously that is ideal, however, small turbos don't really allow that. From a tuning perspective, dealing with mostly non-car guy customer base, you'll find many just running the power up where it will be easy. Peak numbers and 0-60 times are metrics to sell to the masses.

You won't get this sort of curve without a larger turbo.

But we can make it better, I’m not interested in selling to the masses or being concerned about peak numbers without considering how those numbers affect things.
This truck is mostly stock with an intercooler and filter. It was baselined (first graph)
tuned by a well known company (second graph)
then dyno tuned by us (third graph)
it was also street driven in these three states. While some may prefer the big peak, we preferred the longer power band of the third graph especially on the street.

 

[yamahaSHO]

I don't think you see that I am agreeing with you, which now the title of this thread makes sense to me.

All those graphs show the same thing... A small turbo. The blue graph is flatter ("longer power band") but does not hang on up top in comparison to the other two graphs. Ultimately, it makes less power everywhere. That's pretty easy to do.

I tune for a living.

 

[Loweredon33s]

I don't think you see that I am agreeing with you, which now the title of this thread makes sense to me.

All those graphs show the same thing... A small turbo. The blue graph is flatter ("longer power band") but does not hang on up top on comparison to the other two graphs. Ultimately, it makes less power everywhere. That's pretty easy to do.

I tune for a living.

I don’t think you’re disagreeing at all but since I made it obvious that the blue graph was the stock one I’m not exactly following what you’re getting at. The red and green ones are the comparison of two different tuning styles and all I’m saying here is that my preference is the green one. It might not make that peak number but it keeps higher torque and horsepower everywhere an for longer.. That big swell then running out of steam is a common thing I’ve seen from many ecoboost tuners.

 

[My12SecRanger]

Not to sidetrack this but mike what software do you use for tuning ?

 

[Loweredon33s]

Not to sidetrack this but mike what software do you use for tuning ?

We tune with SCT and HP

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