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I've made a 1000 mile trip from KC to PA a few times in my life. always in a beat up old ranger.

the last time I went we took a vehicle with one of the best autonomous driving systems. for nearly 800 of the 1000 miles the self driving system was turned on and maintaining full control of the vehicle with the human driving merely monitoring.

After driving 1000 miles, I could have driven another 1000 miles and still not been tired.
Using the system takes away a huge portion of mental energy.
I agree 100%! But how many out there are as responsible as you? Trust me I love the concept because like you said on long trips it'll help you go longer distances without the eye strain and exhaustion from driving. Nothing is foolproof but what we need are more things that are idiot proof. lol
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I think there are some on the road now and not sure if they're just being tested or out for sale. Also I don't put to much stake anymore with truckers as I use to before. I've seen way to many here blowing through red lights with a trailer in tow behind them. There was just a post yesterday on our local online paper from a woman who just had this happen to her on Friday. Now her son is in the hospital in ICU. Point being I feel this will just make people more lazy and distracted than they already are now. But many seem to want progress so I'm sure it's inevitable we'll start seeing many of these on the roads soon.
And what I see on the highway is law enforcement pulling over trucks - often times to check for driver hrs , unsafe loads or safety violations, the larger trucking firms usually are careful with drivers and equipment so I would think the larger trucking firms would be the ones investing in self driving rigs and would be pretty careful in there use, I can see it making for safer long haul trucking.
 

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What is so scary about semi-autonomous and future self driving vehicles?
The scary part is not the self driving vehicles. It is the inevetable sharing the same road with other erratic human driven machines that is the scary part.
 

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I agree 100%! But how many out there are as responsible as you? Trust me I love the concept because like you said on long trips it'll help you go longer distances without the eye strain and exhaustion from driving. Nothing is foolproof but what we need are more things that are idiot proof. lol
I agree the drivers need to be held accountable and ensured they are using the systems properly. What I'm tired of is seeing everyone driving with their damn phone in their face while operating a 3000lb + motor vehicle at 70+ miles per hour only a few feet from me.


This specific system has its own driver monitoring to ensure you are paying attention. The best way to work this system is to keep a hand on the wheel, which provides enough resistance to know you are alert and monitoring.

If you keep your head forward and looking at road, it will prompt you less.
If you turn your head and starting looking out side windows, it will prompt more often to ensure you are paying attention

Sometimes the road marking may get difficult to see and the system will prompt you to take full control. I even used the driving assist thru 50+ miles of traffic cone construction with multiple line markings from old lines + new temporary lines. The system overall handled it very well and rarely got confused. even when it did, my hand was on the wheel to continue driving with 0 interruption.
 


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What concerns me about adding more tech to vehicles is that tech doesn't really have longevity and becomes obsolete very quickly. I had my previous car, a 2nd gen Escape, for 12 years and it required minimal maintenance. In that same time frame, I went through 3 computers, two tablets, and maybe a half-dozen cell/smartphones.

What scares me is not necessarily the idea of a computer doing the driving, it's that no matter how hard the developers try, those computers will always be vulnerable to viruses and hacking, and the people who will put the effort into creating those viruses or hacking those systems won't be doing it just for fun; they'll have some pretty nefarious goals in mind. One bad human driver is one bad human driver, only capable of impacting those in their immediate surroundings. One hacked or negatively impacted computer system is potentially hundreds of thousands of rogue vehicles impacting millions over entire continents. That's what scares me.
 

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Ours keeps running out of battery before it can make it back to its recharging station. Imagine that ,lol.
This Deebot is great...has a self emptying base station too...
 

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While I agree 1140 isn't a good example they always do this in almost every poll. Especially in political polls so it can skew the numbers in a favored direction.

What is so scary? I don't know about you but an 80K semi that's out of control because it's Al failed scares the sh!$ out of me. I see no benefit for this because they can not guarantee it will be safer than what we have now. The only way to do this is put them out there and let statistics (us) show if it'll work. Besides people now are to damn lazy and will not use even a semi autonomous car they way it should be used. IMHO this just creates more problems than solving them.
Exactly...if AI driving is a thing, you'd think they'd perfected it by now on one form of transportation that doesn't require steering and always have the right way...the train...
 

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Exactly...if AI driving is a thing, you'd think they'd perfected it by now on one form of transportation that doesn't require steering and always have the right way...the train...
My take would be - if you're not going to drive, then take transit, that way you can do all the things people get in trouble for - dui, texting, SLEEPING and more ...?
 

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Exactly...if AI driving is a thing, you'd think they'd perfected it by now on one form of transportation that doesn't require steering and always have the right way...the train...
There are a lot of "self driving" trains in existence.

Look at the APMs (Automated People Movers) at the countries major airports. The tech to run these is very basic, think 8088 processors and rooms of interlocking relay banks. Although solid state interlocking is making it's way in now.

In a previous life I was an APM mechanic at DIA. The systems are pretty slick.

Automated train control is really big in Europe as well.
 

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There are a lot of "self driving" trains in existence.

Look at the APMs (Automated People Movers) at the countries major airports. The tech to run these is very basic, think 8088 processors and rooms of interlocking relay banks. Although solid state interlocking is making it's way in now.

In a previous life I was an APM mechanic at DIA. The systems are pretty slick.

Automated train control is really big in Europe as well.
You're right...airport shuttles works well...I'm wondering about the mile long freight trains...
 

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You're right...airport shuttles works well...I'm wondering about the mile long freight trains...
True. And the difference there is the same problem with putting automated vehicles on the road with drivers.

It's not a closed system. The automation is not in control of all aspects and therefore cannot guarantee the outcome. Road crossings, loading/unloading delays, etc, there are too many variables when you scale it that way.
 

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Did they fix the issue where self-driving cars run over motorcyclists and bicyclists yet? Or is that still just the cost of doing business?
As long as it is an improvement over how many are run over by human drivers it will be a plus.
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