Seam Sealer Missing On Doors

[Floyd]

Yep, no vehicle is perfect.

Not even Toyota,
My Ranger is only an STX, but it would pass a concours inspection, as well as any of its competitors.
There are some things I would have done differently, but nothing I could have done better.

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[joeb427]

Not even Toyota,
My Ranger is only an STX, but it would pass a concours inspection, as well as any of its competitors.
There are some things I would have done differently, but nothing I could have done better.

Well, Floyd, it's nice you feel that way but I guarantee others and myself could find flaws with your truck.No vehicle, especially in this price range is perfect.

 

[PNW_Ranger87]

I have it on my doors. 1 of the 4 even has it all the way around the bottom of the curve. Build 09/19.

 

[HenryMac]

Toyota meets industry standard for fit and finish, from my experience they are a sort of Japanese General Motors, no better ,no worse.

I hope you are right.

If I can get 177,000 miles out of the factory brakes and never need to take it back for service for 19 years then I'll agree that a 2019 Ranger is as good as a 2002 Tacoma.

 

[RedlandRanger]

I hope you are right.

If I can get 177,000 miles out of the factory brakes and never need to take it back for service for 19 years then I'll agree that a 2019 Ranger is as good as a 2002 Tacoma.

You must be referring to the rear brakes - I can't possibly imagine how you could EVER get 177,000 miles out of front disc brakes - I don't care HOW good the quality is. That is pretty amazing regardless.... I've always figured 60,000 miles ish for front brakes is doing pretty good.

 

[Floyd]

I hope you are right.

If I can get 177,000 miles out of the factory brakes and never need to take it back for service for 19 years then I'll agree that a 2019 Ranger is as good as a 2002 Tacoma.

I'm a little tougher on brakes, cause I didn't have to baby my 2001 Ranger to get 18 years without taking it back.
But here's the 2001 Ranger I just sold to get my 2019...
Worked hard and put away wet and still happy to compare service records with the best you can find.

 

[HenryMac]

I'm a little tougher on brakes, cause I didn't have to baby my 2001 Ranger to get 18 years without taking it back.
But here's the 2001 Ranger I just sold to get my 2019...
Worked hard and put away wet and still happy to compare service records with the best you can find.

Nice. Love those 5 spoke A/R wheels.

If our new Rangers make it a year without some major issue requiring them to go back to the dealer... I'll be surprised. Time will tell.

Way to hi-tech for my taste.. but that can no longer be avoided if you want a new vehicle.

 

[Floyd]

Well, Floyd, it's nice you feel that way but I guarantee others and myself could find flaws with your truck.No vehicle, especially in this price range is perfect.

You'd have had to pack your lunch and bring a lighted magnifying glass.
By the way I think words have meaning and I never said "perfect"... I said "flawless".

I have been a bit "over the top" with my "Ford talk" for decades, much to the Chagrin of my friends who own SOBs
They have been waiting a long time to make me eat crow, ...who knows maybe it could happen.. but they better hurry 'cause I'm gettin' old.

 

[Floyd]

Nice. Love those 5 spoke A/R wheels.

If our new Rangers make it a year without some major issue requiring them to go back to the dealer... I'll be surprised. Time will tell.
Way to hi-tech for my taste.. but that can no longer be avoided if you want a new vehicle.

Do you mean a major recall or do you expect yours to break?
I agree the electronics are a bit egregious!

 

[HenryMac]

Do you mean a major recall or do you expect yours to break?

There just seems to be a lot of computer glitches reported on here.... and issues related thereto.

 

[u wish u could ride]

i had a 2002 Tacoma trd and a sr 2017. the 2002 had a valve covers leaking at like 80 k miles. lost the 4x4 actuator twice.(traded it in at 123 k mile with 4x4 not engaging ) wheel bearing went early don't remember mileage. the FRAME was worrysome from the day I got the letter til day traded.the 17 had terribly thin paint that had road chips within two weeks. along with soft windshield glass. lost the top roof trim (dealer covered) and both trucks headlights worthless at night. noisy interior and wanky tranny.(best part is I got the same letter on the 17 after I traded it for the ford) lmfao I am enjoying the ranger in everyway that the Tacoma wasn't providing !!

 

[Zaph]

Hi, I'm new to the forum. Mine has the seal. Just looked.

But I wanted to bring up something else. I don't think this seal is very important and I've learned of a different treatment that can be done post-purchase.

The problem is that water settles on the inside of the door at the bottom and the rust starts from the inside. Whether it's sealed on the outside doesn't even make a difference.

I've been directed by a friend to a body shop who does internal door sealing treatments. It's not exactly cheap however. What they do is fill the inside bottom of the door up with thin sealant that sinks into the gap and the excess drains out of the drainage holes. It's like a non-hardening epoxy type of material. After the treatment, on the inside it's impossible for water to sink into the gap between inner and outer panels, and rust will not happen.

The reason this is expensive is that the door panels have to be pulled off for access and with 4 doors it's a lot of labor. I wish this type of this were done at the factory. It's a great idea.

 

[HenryMac]

Hi, I'm new to the forum. Mine has the seal. Just looked.

But I wanted to bring up something else. I don't think this seal is very important and I've learned of a different treatment that can be done post-purchase.

The problem is that water settles on the inside of the door at the bottom and the rust starts from the inside. Whether it's sealed on the outside doesn't even make a difference.

I've been directed by a friend to a body shop who does internal door sealing treatments. It's not exactly cheap however. What they do is fill the inside bottom of the door up with thin sealant that sinks into the gap and the excess drains out of the drainage holes. It's like a non-hardening epoxy type of material. After the treatment, on the inside it's impossible for water to sink into the gap between inner and outer panels, and rust will not happen.

The reason this is expensive is that the door panels have to be pulled off for access and with 4 doors it's a lot of labor. I wish this type of this were done at the factory. It's a great idea.

Welcome to the forum new guy.

Seam sealer is very important and it is used extensively throughout the entire body of vehicles... not just doors..

Companies such as Ziebart have been doing auto rustproofing since 1959. Door panels do not have to be removed.

All that being said..... internal panel rustproofing is no substitute for the correct application of body panel seam sealer.

More here about Ziebart: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziebart

Here's some Ziebart locations in Wisconsin: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ziebart+wisconsin&ia=places

I bought an '85 S-15 new when I lived in Ohio and had it Ziebarted. Pretty good deal, they touch up the undercoating once a year and then detail and buff out the paint. I traded it in 1993 and it had some rust in the doors. Ziebart bought out my contract with them for more than I paid for it in 1985.

 

[Zaph]

I would never take my car/truck to Ziebart. Waste of money and they do a half assed job. It was almost 20 years ago but the last person I know who did that had the following issues: Ziebart coated the back of their speakers and the audio sounded like garbage after that Then they sealed the weep holes and the door held water. You could hear it sloshing around when you closed the door. My friend had to get a lawyer.

But in any case, I'm convinced that we need to be worrying about the seam on the inside rather than the outside. Water just sits in the seam on the inside and rusts. The weep holes can only drain so much.

The place I talked about coats the inside of the seam completely and the only way to do that well is by removing the door panels. When I talked to them they said they use a thinner coating that penetrates the seam better and then hardens and it won't clog up the weep holes as it drains. They restore old cars and use this to stop rust in process. But lately they have been doing on request for late model cars and in some cases brand new cars right off the lots.

Sounded pretty good to me so I thought I'd bring it up. But like I said, I'd stay away from Ziebart.

 

[deeve]

Mine has all four doors sealed but that product sounds interesting. What is it called?

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