Parking Brake Boot, Ford may eventually cover!

[ccasanova22]

After many back and forths with Ford in Michigan, found out they are aware of the parking brake boot issue and are gathering info to do a customer satisfaction program hopefully in the next year.

So if you bought an OE or aftermarket boot, save your receipt - it may be covered!

Still no luck with 10R80 repair, though. Mine slips and lurches and bangs when going up hills, locking the TC in 8th and staying there until a near stall, then BAM…tires squeal and the trans is in 1st gear like it should have been all along.

Hoping that eventually becomes a recall, 2 dealers now told me they are “overwhelmed” with 10R80 rebuilds and not all are getting fixed post CDF drum repair. Can’t wait until I have time to take this thing back in..

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[Trustable]

After many back and forths with Ford in Michigan, found out they are aware of the parking brake boot issue and are gathering info to do a customer satisfaction program hopefully in the next year.

So if you bought an OE or aftermarket boot, save your receipt - it may be covered!

Still no luck with 10R80 repair, though. Mine slips and lurches and bangs when going up hills, locking the TC in 8th and staying there until a near stall, then BAM…tires squeal and the trans is in 1st gear like it should have been all along.

Hoping that eventually becomes a recall, 2 dealers now told me they are “overwhelmed” with 10R80 rebuilds and not all are getting fixed post CDF drum repair. Can’t wait until I have time to take this thing back in..

Good news about the boot, in the winter up here that thing becomes a plank of wood basically. I am happy to hear dealers are openly speaking about the transmission issues, I need to still take mine in, assuming I can get a loaner.

 

[ccasanova22]

I am happy to hear dealers are openly speaking about the transmission issues, I need to still take mine in, assuming I can get a loaner.

Thats the kicker, if I don’t get a loaner it’s impossible for me to take the truck in. I tow too much and use the truck as a truck to make any downtime reasonable. And if one of my volunteer groups, say a Scoutmaster or Animal Rescue needs me to pull their trailer, I can’t do that (legally) with a Ford Loaner vehicle, or that voids the agreement.

FWIW towing in “S” mode and selecting the “1” gear seems to work for now…

 

[airline tech]

After many back and forths with Ford in Michigan, found out they are aware of the parking brake boot issue and are gathering info to do a customer satisfaction program hopefully in the next year.

So if you bought an OE or aftermarket boot, save your receipt - it may be covered!

Still no luck with 10R80 repair, though. Mine slips and lurches and bangs when going up hills, locking the TC in 8th and staying there until a near stall, then BAM…tires squeal and the trans is in 1st gear like it should have been all along.

Hoping that eventually becomes a recall, 2 dealers now told me they are “overwhelmed” with 10R80 rebuilds and not all are getting fixed post CDF drum repair. Can’t wait until I have time to take this thing back in..

Without reviewing what you have had done (Repairs) I recall the transmission and I think you had the DPFE replaced - I keyed in on (Issues when going up hills)

I believe you have a bad MAPT sensor and I am keying in on (Under A Load) the MAPT sensor plays a role in fuel delivery and also shift points.
The MAPT sensor is also known not to code with symptoms only, I have a hunch that may be your problem or a related fuel delivery issue (Injector - Fuel Pressure)
I am not saying its not the transmission, but it may be worth doing some T-Shooting of the MAPT sensor and Live Data monitoring.

 

[veedubtuner]

Did different trim levels get different materials for the boot? Like did Lariats get actual leather instead of vinyl or pleather? Would be nice if Ford did in fact "warranty" the boots, but I don't want to replace it with the same thing that will deteriorate in 2 years again. I'll probably replace it with one of those Redlinegoods leather ones someone mentioned in another thread.

https://www.amazon.com/RedlineGoods...edline+shift+boots+ranger,aps,102&sr=8-3&th=1

 

[Bob902]

Did different trim levels get different materials for the boot? Like did Lariats get actual leather instead of vinyl or pleather? Would be nice if Ford did in fact "warranty" the boots, but I don't want to replace it with the same thing that will deteriorate in 2 years again. I'll probably replace it with one of those Redlinegoods leather ones someone mentioned in another thread.

https://www.amazon.com/RedlineGoods-ebrake-Compatible-Ranger-2019-22/dp/B0B77ZKVD3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33CJ2HDSBYWW8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yQPVPgKU4PvEqLWd5TBHpW2Gt_9UM9YpMt_j8VfOxTncYQI5JDg_lKikjFppF4Zd32uzt14D9mU5fmaqxeMa-4lsW4S8l-f-Xj7h7O9Ia2e-Kgk3y6Wsk2N-_YzelGIQtujBH4MX_eBQVcbASlLMWCCYQD8iKDQig_XyOBCZ5rVbhXqbUmRZB4Am0E4Y7gqWR1HSB_vyWgUPw4Oc9ZHCTALmHqdP7LsfSzHn-o79XC8._RyLCo5IwO3oe-wFyjJosRvxqOSnV_3se_cs_EtfjP4&dib_tag=se&keywords=redline+shift+boots+ranger&qid=1755783890&sprefix=redline+shift+boots+ranger,aps,102&sr=8-3&th=1

I put on the Redline boot two summers ago. Still looks and feels brand new.

 

[ccasanova22]

Ford Corporate is telling me to suggest owners to call in and file a formal complaint if they’ve had the parking brake issue, to help expedite a CSP (customer satisfaction program). They may even reimburse those who had aftermarket boots installed.

To Airline Tech - thanks for the detailed info, I’m not sure if this matters, but my issues do not present if I select “S” then manually shift down to “1” then there are no slips, lurches, bangs, or tire squeals. Just like I would in a manual, rev match as the road conditions dictate.

When in “D”, the trans stays in 8th and tries to unlock the TC first but there’s no forward momentum (just revs up at a near stop) then BANG it’s in 1st and lights up one tire like a drag racer - always the right rear if that matters.

 

[ccasanova22]

Did different trim levels get different materials for the boot? Like did Lariats get actual leather instead of vinyl or pleather? Would be nice if Ford did in fact "warranty" the boots, but I don't want to replace it with the same thing that will deteriorate in 2 years again. I'll probably replace it with one of those Redlinegoods leather ones someone mentioned in another thread.

https://www.amazon.com/RedlineGoods-ebrake-Compatible-Ranger-2019-22/dp/B0B77ZKVD3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33CJ2HDSBYWW8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yQPVPgKU4PvEqLWd5TBHpW2Gt_9UM9YpMt_j8VfOxTncYQI5JDg_lKikjFppF4Zd32uzt14D9mU5fmaqxeMa-4lsW4S8l-f-Xj7h7O9Ia2e-Kgk3y6Wsk2N-_YzelGIQtujBH4MX_eBQVcbASlLMWCCYQD8iKDQig_XyOBCZ5rVbhXqbUmRZB4Am0E4Y7gqWR1HSB_vyWgUPw4Oc9ZHCTALmHqdP7LsfSzHn-o79XC8._RyLCo5IwO3oe-wFyjJosRvxqOSnV_3se_cs_EtfjP4&dib_tag=se&keywords=redline+shift+boots+ranger&qid=1755783890&sprefix=redline+shift+boots+ranger,aps,102&sr=8-3&th=1

Did different trim levels get different materials for the boot? Like did Lariats get actual leather instead of vinyl or pleather? Would be nice if Ford did in fact "warranty" the boots, but I don't want to replace it with the same thing that will deteriorate in 2 years again. I'll probably replace it with one of those Redlinegoods leather ones someone mentioned in another thread.

https://www.amazon.com/RedlineGoods-ebrake-Compatible-Ranger-2019-22/dp/B0B77ZKVD3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33CJ2HDSBYWW8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yQPVPgKU4PvEqLWd5TBHpW2Gt_9UM9YpMt_j8VfOxTncYQI5JDg_lKikjFppF4Zd32uzt14D9mU5fmaqxeMa-4lsW4S8l-f-Xj7h7O9Ia2e-Kgk3y6Wsk2N-_YzelGIQtujBH4MX_eBQVcbASlLMWCCYQD8iKDQig_XyOBCZ5rVbhXqbUmRZB4Am0E4Y7gqWR1HSB_vyWgUPw4Oc9ZHCTALmHqdP7LsfSzHn-o79XC8._RyLCo5IwO3oe-wFyjJosRvxqOSnV_3se_cs_EtfjP4&dib_tag=se&keywords=redline+shift+boots+ranger&qid=1755783890&sprefix=redline+shift+boots+ranger,aps,102&sr=8-3&th=1

I may be mistaken but I think all trim levels get the same boot.

 

[airline tech]

Ford Corporate is telling me to suggest owners to call in and file a formal complaint if they’ve had the parking brake issue, to help expedite a CSP (customer satisfaction program). They may even reimburse those who had aftermarket boots installed.

To Airline Tech - thanks for the detailed info, I’m not sure if this matters, but my issues do not present if I select “S” then manually shift down to “1” then there are no slips, lurches, bangs, or tire squeals. Just like I would in a manual, rev match as the road conditions dictate.

When in “D”, the trans stays in 8th and tries to unlock the TC first but there’s no forward momentum (just revs up at a near stop) then BANG it’s in 1st and lights up one tire like a drag racer - always the right rear if that matters.

Sometimes a bad MAP (MAPT) for the Ranger as it incorporates a Temp Sensor within the sensor.
will show itself faulty by reporting incorrect (Engine Load) Data to the PCM, this is one of the inputs the PCM uses to calculate shift points, if you are using (Sport) and manually downshifting you are bypassing the automatic function that the PCM is using.

Sorry but the Ford manuals do not really cover in depth on precise control of shift points, so from my past working experience over the years and this via (Google AI)


The 10R80 transmission's shift points are controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), which relies on various sensor inputs to determine optimal gear changes. The MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor is one of these crucial inputs.
Here's how the PCM and MAP sensor work together to influence 10R80 shift points:

• Engine Load Input (from MAP Sensor): The MAP sensor measures the pressure in the intake manifold, providing the PCM with information about the engine's load or demand for power. A higher manifold pressure generally indicates greater engine load.
• PCM Processing: The PCM receives the MAP sensor data along with other critical inputs like engine speed, vehicle speed, and accelerator pedal position (throttle position). It uses this information, alongside a pre-programmed shift map (or schedule), to calculate the ideal shift points.
• Shift Point Determination: The PCM utilizes the engine load data from the MAP sensor to determine the appropriate gear for the current driving conditions and driver's input. For example, under heavy engine load (e.g., accelerating hard or climbing a hill, indicated by higher MAP sensor readings), the PCM might delay upshifts to maintain power or even command a downshift for increased torque. Conversely, during light throttle and low load, the PCM will favor earlier upshifts for fuel efficiency.
• Adaptive Learning: The 10R80 transmission also incorporates an adaptive learning strategy. This means the PCM continuously monitors driving habits and adjusts shift points and characteristics over time to optimize for smooth shifts and driver preferences. A faulty MAP sensor sending incorrect engine load data could disrupt this adaptive process and lead to erratic shifting behavior, according to JustAnswer.
• Shift Characteristics and Drive Modes: The 10R80 offers different drive modes (e.g., Normal, Sport), each with a unique set of shift characteristics and predefined shift schedules. These characteristics, along with other parameters like shift firmness, are controlled by the PCM based on driver input and the active drive mode.

In essence
The MAP sensor provides the PCM with a critical piece of information – engine load – which is essential for determining the right shift points for the 10R80 transmission, contributing to smooth shifts, optimal performance, and fuel efficiency.

With you stating that the issue shows itself -Going Up Hill - caught my attention as this would be a Engine Load issue, the engine load information comes from the MAP Sensor.
This is a key factor (The Engine is under a load)

So if we look at (Shift Point Determination) above and your (Sport Mode) work around by manually downshifting.
It a possibility that the MAP Sensor may be the root of the shifting issues, the PCM is not seeing the engine is under a load and not commanding a downshift properly and or fuel delivery or timing issue (under a load) and you have a lower manifold pressure than normal and the MAP sensor is actually reading correctly

Again this is just a possibility but in my opinion a highly likely possibility and my reasoning is that you are able to manually downshift via Sport Mode I feel that if the issue was truly within the Transmission you would also have issues in Sport Mode, possibly not exact but similar.


I wish I would have include (Engine Load) in the following thread but I did include the MAP sensor PID as a ref for the EGR Thread

Ref: Post #857 for a ref to normal MAP reading at Idle and 2,000 RPM

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[Trustable]

Ford Corporate is telling me to suggest owners to call in and file a formal complaint if they’ve had the parking brake issue, to help expedite a CSP (customer satisfaction program). They may even reimburse those who had aftermarket boots installed.

To Airline Tech - thanks for the detailed info, I’m not sure if this matters, but my issues do not present if I select “S” then manually shift down to “1” then there are no slips, lurches, bangs, or tire squeals. Just like I would in a manual, rev match as the road conditions dictate.

When in “D”, the trans stays in 8th and tries to unlock the TC first but there’s no forward momentum (just revs up at a near stop) then BANG it’s in 1st and lights up one tire like a drag racer - always the right rear if that matters.

I’ll try to call in tomorrow then - might as well throw the transmission in there too! In the winter my parking brake refuses to fully disengage until the car warms up enough to the the pleather or vinyl.

 

[$4Ranger]

Did different trim levels get different materials for the boot? Like did Lariats get actual leather instead of vinyl or pleather? Would be nice if Ford did in fact "warranty" the boots, but I don't want to replace it with the same thing that will deteriorate in 2 years again. I'll probably replace it with one of those Redlinegoods leather ones someone mentioned in another thread.

https://www.amazon.com/RedlineGoods-ebrake-Compatible-Ranger-2019-22/dp/B0B77ZKVD3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33CJ2HDSBYWW8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yQPVPgKU4PvEqLWd5TBHpW2Gt_9UM9YpMt_j8VfOxTncYQI5JDg_lKikjFppF4Zd32uzt14D9mU5fmaqxeMa-4lsW4S8l-f-Xj7h7O9Ia2e-Kgk3y6Wsk2N-_YzelGIQtujBH4MX_eBQVcbASlLMWCCYQD8iKDQig_XyOBCZ5rVbhXqbUmRZB4Am0E4Y7gqWR1HSB_vyWgUPw4Oc9ZHCTALmHqdP7LsfSzHn-o79XC8._RyLCo5IwO3oe-wFyjJosRvxqOSnV_3se_cs_EtfjP4&dib_tag=se&keywords=redline+shift+boots+ranger&qid=1755783890&sprefix=redline+shift+boots+ranger,aps,102&sr=8-3&th=1

Ford dealer replaced my boot underwarrenty a few years ago. It does not have any cracks in it like when i brought it in. but its very stiff material. Not really happy with the replacement, but no cracks.

 

[airline tech]

As far as the boot replacement, even if they replace it under warranty - as mine was cracked and could have had it replaced via warranty - The replacement will be a exact part of what is installed.
so overtime the same issue will happen - cracking in the winter months.

So I decided to buy the Redline boot, now I can tell its much softer than the factory and this upcoming winter will be the test of what it feels like when its below freezing.
Price was not bad $44.00.

 

[twk]

Did different trim levels get different materials for the boot? Like did Lariats get actual leather instead of vinyl or pleather? Would be nice if Ford did in fact "warranty" the boots, but I don't want to replace it with the same thing that will deteriorate in 2 years again. I'll probably replace it with one of those Redlinegoods leather ones someone mentioned in another thread.

https://www.amazon.com/RedlineGoods-ebrake-Compatible-Ranger-2019-22/dp/B0B77ZKVD3/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33CJ2HDSBYWW8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.yQPVPgKU4PvEqLWd5TBHpW2Gt_9UM9YpMt_j8VfOxTncYQI5JDg_lKikjFppF4Zd32uzt14D9mU5fmaqxeMa-4lsW4S8l-f-Xj7h7O9Ia2e-Kgk3y6Wsk2N-_YzelGIQtujBH4MX_eBQVcbASlLMWCCYQD8iKDQig_XyOBCZ5rVbhXqbUmRZB4Am0E4Y7gqWR1HSB_vyWgUPw4Oc9ZHCTALmHqdP7LsfSzHn-o79XC8._RyLCo5IwO3oe-wFyjJosRvxqOSnV_3se_cs_EtfjP4&dib_tag=se&keywords=redline+shift+boots+ranger&qid=1755783890&sprefix=redline+shift+boots+ranger,aps,102&sr=8-3&th=1

My '22 Lariat built during the covid supply chain incident came with a thin plastic boot. I'm pretty sure all Rangers have that same crappy boot.

Also, following.

 

[ccasanova22]

Thanks, airline tech!

So for all of you with an original boot, new boot, or aftermarket, calling in Ford will help them expedite the “customer satisfaction program” where they will issue funds or reimbursement like a pseudo recall. If it’s not an inconvenience, calling in helps the Ranger community (even those out of warranty).

With regards to the transmission, just completed a 1,000 mile road trip with some towing and zero issues, but temps are in the 50’s to 70’s outside. No idea if related, but extreme hot and cold results in the jerking/slipping, mild temps it drives great even up hills with maybe only a hard 3-4 shift in the mornings. Odd but hoping this helps point to one of the sensors airline tech recommended.

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