FLOCK Camera Locations

[Dr. Zaius]

Just a PSA if you're interested in these things.

https://deflock.org/

I live in the boondocks and there are a few of these locally.

Click the map and zoom to your location.

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[mtsoxfan]

Cool map, plenty in our area of travels. I've read lots of stories, all negative, on flock cameras. Not sure what's true, what is speculation, and what is consperacy theory.

 

[IdahoRanger]

Just a PSA if you're interested in these things.

https://deflock.org/

I live in the boondocks and there are a few of these locally.

Click the map and zoom to your location.

Thanks for the map. I didn't realize how many there were in my city.

 

[Colo_Ranger]

Cool map, plenty in our area of travels. I've read lots of stories, all negative, on flock cameras. Not sure what's true, what is speculation, and what is consperacy theory.

There are a lot of great videos, some from lawyers. Basically, Flock is using plate recognition and pairing it with identifying features (stickers, body damage, etc) to create your profile. Then they track you everywhere and provide a searchable database for anyone who pays for it. Police departments and government agencies are using this to bypass warrants. It's a legal gray area, for now. Linked below is a good video to get you started.

 

[Radioman]

Reminds me of the story about "The sky is falling..." In my area, Flock has helped in the recovery of stolen vehicles and helped track vehicles involved in hit and run instances among others. When I am on a public street, I have no expectation of any privacy with all the dash cams, Flocks, cams on private and public buildings, cameras on the freeways and public streets, etc. I support my police department efforts to reduce crime. The police department says (and I have no reason to doubt them) that Flock results that don't result in a criminal investigation are deleted after about 30 days. I have more important things to worry about than a camera reading my license plate on a public street.
My 2 cents...

 

[Colo_Ranger]

Reminds me of the story about "The sky is falling..." In my area, Flock has helped in the recovery of stolen vehicles and helped track vehicles involved in hit and run instances among others. When I am on a public street, I have no expectation of any privacy with all the dash cams, Flocks, cams on private and public buildings, cameras on the freeways and public streets, etc. I support my police department efforts to reduce crime. The police department says (and I have no reason to doubt them) that Flock results that don't result in a criminal investigation are deleted after about 30 days. I have more important things to worry about than a camera reading my license plate on a public street.
My 2 cents...

Watch the video I posted. He addresses “expectation of privacy”. What flock is doing is building a profile on you, that’s not privacy. That’s tracking your every movement and making record and that was ruled unconstitutional.

You’re essentially saying you’re willing to give up your rights because it might catch a few bad people. I, on the other hand, am not willing to give my rights up for anything.

 

[Radioman]

Watch the video I posted. He addresses “expectation of privacy”. What flock is doing is building a profile on you, that’s not privacy. That’s tracking your every movement and making record and that was ruled unconstitutional.

You’re essentially saying you’re willing to give up your rights because it might catch a few bad people. I, on the other hand, am not willing to give my rights up for anything.

As a staunch conservative, I do not willingly give up any of my rights as guaranteed by the Constitution. I just don't believe all the hype over the Flock system.
You do you and I will continue to do me.

 

[NotBudule2]

 

[ScarzRanger21(2.0)]

Reminds me of the story about "The sky is falling..." In my area, Flock has helped in the recovery of stolen vehicles and helped track vehicles involved in hit and run instances among others. When I am on a public street, I have no expectation of any privacy with all the dash cams, Flocks, cams on private and public buildings, cameras on the freeways and public streets, etc. I support my police department efforts to reduce crime. The police department says (and I have no reason to doubt them) that Flock results that don't result in a criminal investigation are deleted after about 30 days. I have more important things to worry about than a camera reading my license plate on a public street.
My 2 cents...

It’s not what the police do with them that has a lot of people concerned, it’s what anyone who is willing to pay for the data they collect does with them. For example, I don’t mind that local PD and sheriff departments use them to track license plates, ID vehicles that are stolen, find people who have warrants, expired registration, etc….

What I don’t like is that they not only take a physical description of your vehicle, but anyone inside of it, their physical appearance, apparent age, location, time of day, and travel routines. Anyone willing to pay FLOCK for that information can have it. So now some weirdo knows what I drive, what I look like, what my wife and daughter look like, and they know what areas of town we frequent at what times of day. Call me paranoid but I don’t like someone being able to digitally stalk me and my family.

Now before you call me a “conspiracy theorist”, you should know that I work for the government. The department I work for installs these cameras around the city for PD. We’ve talked to FLOCK software people and we know EXACTLY what these cameras can (and will) do if someone is willing to pay for the data on them. It’s not just for “public safety” like you’re being told. There’s a massive potential for private and personal information to be leaked and given to people who definitely shouldn’t have it.

That’s why people are pushing against these things so much. Never forget what Reagan said "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government and I'm here to help."

 

[ScarzRanger21(2.0)]

It’s not what the police do with them that has a lot of people concerned, it’s what anyone who is willing to pay for the data they collect does with them. For example, I don’t mind that local PD and sheriff departments use them to track license plates, ID vehicles that are stolen, find people who have warrants, expired registration, etc….

What I don’t like is that they not only take a physical description of your vehicle, but anyone inside of it, their physical appearance, apparent age, location, time of day, and travel routines. Anyone willing to pay FLOCK for that information can have it. So now some weirdo knows what I drive, what I look like, what my wife and daughter look like, and they know what areas of town we frequent at what times of day. Call me paranoid but I don’t like someone being able to digitally stalk me and my family.

Now before you call me a “conspiracy theorist”, you should know that I work for the government. The department I work for installs these cameras around the city for PD. We’ve talked to FLOCK software people and we know EXACTLY what these cameras can (and will) do if someone is willing to pay for the data on them. It’s not just for “public safety” like you’re being told. There’s a massive potential for private and personal information to be leaked and given to people who definitely shouldn’t have it.

That’s why people are pushing against these things so much. Never forget what Reagan said "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the Government and I'm here to help."

I’ll add to this… As a government employee, I can tell you the government is absolutely, without a doubt, not here to help you. I have family and very close friends that are military, law-enforcement, and first responders. I used to be as pro law-enforcement as they come. After working in a department that is very closely tied with PD, FBI, homeland security, IRS, and other various government agencies; all I can say is never fool yourself into thinking the government is here to help you.

There are things that I can’t disclose (due to contract obligations and NDA’s) but I can definitely tell you that when the government, even local agencies, say they’re doing something for “public safety” or “to help you”, you shouldn’t believe a word of it. 99% of the time, there’s some kind of gain to be had from whatever they’re doing. Whether it’s financial, surveillance, power, money, etc… it’s always something. They’re never just doing something out of the kindness of their hearts and trying to help you.

This is also why my political stance has changed since I started working for the government. I don’t trust anyone. I’ve seen what they do and I’ve seen the corruption firsthand. All government agencies, I don’t care who they are, are corrupt and shady. If you think they’re here to help you, you’re believing the lies they’re selling.

 

[NotBudule2]

Woman sues Cumberland for alleged wrongful arrest | WPRI.com https://share.google/0IK5uWOi6cmyLOmB1

Don't forget about these stories of false arrests ... also , my main issue is this is all digital footage and can be hacked and made to look like anything (or anybody) somebody wants it too ...

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Speaking of false arrests...

 

[Superspirit]

Gubment at its best!

 

[Dgc333]

There are three locations in my town with the Flock cameras setup. The biggest issue is the police authorized the installations without consulting the town selectmen. There is lots of discussion whether they will allow them to stay and based on the volume of negative comments on the town Facebook page I can see them being removed. With all the negative press they have been receiving several other local towns have already taken them down.

A friend of mine is the police chief in the next town over from mine he was initially all for them and had been waiting on a grant to have them installed. The grant fell through and with all the bad press Flock has been receiving he is glad it did.

I saw a news article that sited about a 1/2 dozen cases where cops have been using the system to stalk exes. Up to now Flock has not been willing to put more secure access on the system. But know with all the bad press and the fact the localities are removing them they say they are going to revise how and who can access the system.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

It's not just your plate, car, or other physical markers, but they are also taking images of the driver and passengers if visible on some now, and also RFID tracking of electronic devices on board, such as phones, tablets, and even as basic as your TPMS sensors.

Police may not be keeping it beyond 30 days in some areas, but the data centers are, and Police (or others) can request info much older than 30 days. There are increasing number of cases which people were wrongfully charged or even imprisoned.

Many say, it's a great tool for tracking crime, which is true, but for the vast majority who aren't criminals, it is invasive beyond reasonable expectation IMO. If they wanted to monitor your phones, and every other watching/listening device on your person or in your home, that would also be a great tool to investigate crimes. Or allowing police to do random inspection of your home anytime they want, etc.

Combine this type of camera, with the million of other police and private surveillance cameras around the country, then run it all through an AI Processor with facial recognition or movement recognition, and they will know everything about anyone's routine they are interested in.

I live out in the sticks, so it's not a huge deal for me yet, and I do take steps to block, conceal, or limit what they can collect from me when I do go to town. I generally support police and law enforcement, but also my right to be reasonably free from constant surveillance and monitoring.

Some big cities, have hundreds or thousands installed. Multiples on every block in some areas. Two or three on a single block, isn't about tracking stolen plates, it's Big Brother creating a surveillance network of control.

If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about. LMAO

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