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Manuals all about having control... That's why silly men think it's quicker then an auto.. Trust me I hear it all the time in sales. "I want to feel like im in control with a manual" and I thinks to myself.... "That's a deeper rooted issue than having a stick in your hand buddy.".

As for the 2.7L EcoBoost. It's either that or the 3L from the Explorer ST. I'm personally hoping they give the option on XLT/Lariat models for a 2.3 or 2.7, and they toss the 3L into the Raptor. Just a thought.

Either way I don't dig the 6G look tbh. It's going to look like a little bro to the F150 with it's front end. However if it has sunroof, rear powered sliding window, memory seating, and/or heated steering wheel then I may reconsider. :p.
Control isn't all about quick,though.
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Yeah that's right.... if you're drag racing, but a manual still reigns supreme when you approach turn 5 at Road America. (Or any winding country backroad)
Approaching turn 5…in a Ranger, or any truck. I’d love to see this! Haha
 

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Approaching turn 5…in a Ranger, or any truck. I’d love to see this! Haha
My new Ranger has an automatic, but my 1992 Ranger4.0L 5speed Manual with only minor mods was a very competent handling truck, on par with most contemporary sport sedans
If you insist, here are newer race trucks at Road America.
I draw your attention to turn 5 at 21 minutes 21 seconds.
 
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gotta love this late model Ranger.... 4dr Diesel yet!

 
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My new Ranger has an automatic, but my 1992 Ranger4.0L 5speed Manual with only minor mods was a very competent handling truck, on par with most contemporary sport sedans
If you insist, here are newer race trucks at Road America.
I draw your attention to turn 5 at 21 minutes 21 seconds.
Good stuff, and if my truck looked like one of those I might consider a manual.
 
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I'm just popping in to say that 3 years ago when my oldest was approaching driver's licensing age in my state, my wife and I decided that all our kids would learn to drive on a manual. I had to look for a LONG time to find any manual car in decent shape for them to learn on, but we found a little Elantra in reasonably good condition that has been through 2 teenage drivers so far. The clutch is getting a little loose though, going to be time for a new one before my youngest learns next year...

My mantra with them has been: If you can drive a stick, you can drive anything. I don't care if they never own another manual-transmission car again... the fact is they will have roommates, friends, co-workers, vacations, etc where they will undoubtedly encounter stick shifts... and they'll be able to jump in and just go.

Plus, I feel like if you learn how to drive on a manual transmission, you are going to be more aware of what the car is doing mechanically... and this transfers over to when you start driving an automatic. For instance, when one of my kids encounters an issue with the car they are driving, I'd expect a phone call like this: "The car is holding second gear too long, and once it shifts up into 3rd or 4th, it takes forever to get it to down shift again when I climb hills..." - instead of something much more generic like "the car is being weird". I believe that basic knowledge of how the car does what it does will serve them well.
 

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I guess we will have to wait until 2022 for the release of the 6G Ranger to find out what it will be equipped with. Ford's doing a good job of not releasing any new information on it. I would say no to the 2.7 L in the standard Ranger. Manual Tranny we will have to see if it is offered. From what I have heard about the way 10 speed auto operates I would do another standard.
 
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I thought the high end performance car automatic was really a computer controlled manual with the computer replacing the clutch pedal. This would make the best performing transmission a hybrid of the two.

It used to be a manual car was cheaper, lighter an considered better for long term reliability. The manual set up was way simpler than the "slush box" overdrive transmissions back in the day. Shifts were slow an lazy. If you had an auto in your mustang or camaro one of the best performance mods was a shift kit to speed up the shift action an/or to allow manual shifting of the automatic. Modern automatics out perform manuals is the majority of driving situations. I haven't owned a vehicle with a shift dial replacing the shifter but I think I'd hate it.
 

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I thought the high end performance car automatic was really a computer controlled manual with the computer replacing the clutch pedal. This would make the best performing transmission a hybrid of the two.
It's called a dual clutch transmission (DCT) and they are used in low end cars too. My wife's 12 Focus had one and VW has been using them in the Golf for a long time. They are different in that they are sequential, that is you can only go from 1st to 2nd to 3rd, etc and back down, no going from 1st to 4th or 4th to 2nd. That was the issue with the one in my wife's Focus there were times when you needed to go from 5th or 6th to 2nd to pass and there was a very prominent delay as it shifted gear by gear down to 2nd.

As for the 10 speed in my Ranger it is no where near as polished as the 9 speed in my wife's 21 Jeep Cherokee or the 8 speed in my son's Ram. Both of those transmissions are always in the right gear and especially the 9 speed you never notice it while driving.
 

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Manuals all about having control... That's why silly men think it's quicker then an auto.. Trust me I hear it all the time in sales. "I want to feel like im in control with a manual" and I thinks to myself.... "That's a deeper rooted issue than having a stick in your hand buddy."
That is some real mental gymnastics right there.

Stay in your lane, there is a reason you are a salesman.

There. I said what everyone else was thinking.

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I guess we will have to wait until 2022 for the release of the 6G Ranger to find out what it will be equipped with. Ford's doing a good job of not releasing any new information on it. I would say no to the 2.7 L in the standard Ranger. Manual Tranny we will have to see if it is offered. From what I have heard about the way 10 speed auto operates I would do another standard.
I have found the 10SPD to be the best automatic ever offered in a production vehicle, that's why I drove manual transmissions in all my new cars for more than forty years.
It works particularly well with the 2.3L Ecoboost with a stock tune, in the Ranger, for doing truck things.
 

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That is some real mental gymnastics right there.

Stay in your lane, there is a reason you are a salesman.

There. I said what everyone else was thinking.

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I truly don't understand how that's mental gymnastics? It's a physiological effect of being in control with having a stick in your hand. Not only is it a fact but what human doesn't like being in control? I wasn't referencing to a penis if that's where your brain went.. Sorry you can't wrap your brain around my sentence.

Nor do I understand how being a salesman is in my lane? I've owned 5 businesses in my past and made more off entrepreneurship to keep myself, my kids, and my wife more then happy. I'm 32. I have low interest dept that makes me money and we have no mortgage but own a $675,000 house. I'm in car sales because I just sold my brewery 2 years ago, bought a gym and thought it was smart to keep a second income while we built the membership up. I literally joined this forum to help people buy their vehicles at their local dealership and not get scammed.

It's okay you wanted to act like this. It's a forum and you don't know me. My apologies if I offended you.

Now lets keep to the thread instead of trying to bully. Good attempt though.

P.S. You shouldn't speak for other people. It's simply rude.
 

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I truly don't understand how that's mental gymnastics? It's a physiological effect of being in control with having a stick in your hand. Not only is it a fact but what human doesn't like being in control? I wasn't referencing to a penis if that's where your brain went.. Sorry you can't wrap your brain around my sentence.

Nor do I understand how being a salesman is in my lane? I've owned 5 businesses in my past and made more off entrepreneurship to keep myself, my kids, and my wife more then happy. I'm 32. I have low interest dept that makes me money and we have no mortgage but own a $675,000 house. I'm in car sales because I just sold my brewery 2 years ago, bought a gym and thought it was smart to keep a second income while we built the membership up. I literally joined this forum to help people buy their vehicles at their local dealership and not get scammed.

It's okay you wanted to act like this. It's a forum and you don't know me. My apologies if I offended you.

Now lets keep to the thread instead of trying to bully. Good attempt though.

P.S. You shouldn't speak for other people. It's simply rude.
Makes broad generalizations, then gets so bent out of shape when called out he has to give us his life story and bank account status.

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