A missed reservation and long charging times.

[JesseS]

I want a Powerwall so bad...Hopefully the costs come down soon as I'm one of those math heads that calculates everything automatically

I love the powerwall, it captures the excess solar power and then feeds it back to run the house after the sun goes down. When I get the EV I will add 5 additional panels and a second powerwall to both offset the needed charging capacity and provide EV charging after sundown. The powerwall has a setting to allow EV charging down to a set backup percentage. My powerwall cost $12K installed with a post rebate out of pocket cost of $3800. My utility sells power @ $.11 a KWH and buys it back @ $06 a KWH, so you lose .6 cents KWH without a powerwall to capture your excess for your own use.

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[DeathRanger]

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[Radioman]

Have had one for many years...would not own a home now without one.
In this era of extreme storms, power outages, power going out, it has almost become a necessity.

I hear your Steve.

Many of my friends that live in the Sierra foothills and rural areas in the Coastal mountains here in CA have had to install generators because of the loss of power due to fires or the power company shutting off the power. These people depend on power to run their wells and keep their food from spoiling among other things.

 

[GTGallop]

An EV is great for daily driving. The infrastructure isn't there yet for long distance though. I feel like every family still needs at least one ICE vehicle for long distances

^^^ BINGO!!! ^^^

I find that a lot of Americans, despite professing a love for freedom and supporting cultural diversity, like to think their way of life is best and every one should conform to it. I once became president of an HOA because one lady was running the show and wanted every one to have plants like hers, yard decorations like hers, and a house painted like hers. It did not look bad, but it shouldn't be forced on everyone.

Same with electric cars and the push to have everyone driving an EV by 2025. It's usually city folks who only drive on paved roads and who don't get out of town. They have an EV with a 120 mile range, a 20 mile commute to work, slow charge their car at home overnight, and top it off at work during the day - or they even work from home where no miles or electricity is needed. Then they decide to profess what is best for rural America.

I tell people out here in AZ, that once you leave any major metropolitan area, you just stepped back in time to 1930. There is a LOT of Arizona that doesn't have cell signal or gas stations. Some of our highways are still dirt roads. And a lot of people live off grid here. Not because they are some uber-environmentalist, but because there just ain't a grid where they happen to live.

Sure an EV would / could work well for 5 million of Arizona's 7.5 million people as a second car. And that would be a vast improvement. But we are no where near ready to start mandating it for everyone. You'd have better luck banning cow farts.

 

[fortywater12]

I love the powerwall, it captures the excess solar power and then feeds it back to run the house after the sun goes down. When I get the EV I will add 5 additional panels and a second powerwall to both offset the needed charging capacity and provide EV charging after sundown. The powerwall has a setting to allow EV charging down to a set backup percentage. My powerwall cost $12K installed with a post rebate out of pocket cost of $3800. My utility sells power @ $.11 a KWH and buys it back @ $06 a KWH, so you lose .6 cents KWH without a powerwall to capture your excess for your own use.

Had a Powerwall and Tesla solar on my house that I sold in 2021 - best investment I had ever made, especially out here in CA with all of the high wind safety shutoffs in summer. 99% of the time I was able to run my house 100% self sufficiently and still sell energy back to the utility company. Wife and I love to crank the AC in the summertime, so it was awesome.

When I sold my home, I had to "true up" with the utility company for the year since they bill solar users annually vs monthly. If I recall correctly, for about 6 months of energy use, I owed the utility company $60-70, which is less than the mandatory cost they charge to stay connected to the grid ($15-30/month, can't remember).

 

[deleriumtremor]

On the cow thing, cows do produce a lot of methane (anyone living near a dairy farm will confirm this fact). Methane is like 25 times worse than C02 at greenhouse effects.

Another big producer of methane is rice paddies. You don't hear a lot about the rice paddy impact because it generally is centered in less affluent areas of the world.

Along the line of hearing a lot about cow produced methane and not hearing a lot about rice paddy methane. You will also see that when charting green house gas production, we see a lot of "historical contribution" charts versus what everyone is producing today. On the historical production chart you will see the US far out in front in greenhouse gas produced. On the chart of current global production China produces about double the greenhouse gases of the US.

Scientists are human too and humans always have to try and spin facts, it his just what we do.

 

[RedlandRanger]

On the cow thing, cows do produce a lot of methane (anyone living near a dairy farm will confirm this fact). Methane is like 25 times worse than C02 at greenhouse effects.

Another big producer of methane is rice paddies. You don't hear a lot about the rice paddy impact because it generally is centered in less affluent areas of the world.

Along the line of hearing a lot about cow produced methane and not hearing a lot about rice paddy methane. You will also see that when charting green house gas production, we see a lot of "historical contribution" charts versus what everyone is producing today. On the historical production chart you will see the US far out in front in greenhouse gas produced. On the chart of current global production China produces about double the greenhouse gases of the US.

Scientists are human too and humans always have to try and spin facts, it his just what we do.

I think the more important statistic is CO2 per capita (per person). The US is 16th per capita according to this:

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/

But you know what Mark Twain used to say - there are 3 kinds of lies - Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics...

 

[deleriumtremor]

I think the more important statistic is CO2 per capita (per person). The US is 16th per capita according to this:

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by-country/

But you know what Mark Twain used to say - there are 3 kinds of lies - Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics...

That is definitely the way China would like the numbers to read.

I guess they will be a part of the "developing world" until they have reached number 1 economically speaking.

 

[RedlandRanger]

That is definitely the way China would like the numbers to read.

I guess they will be a part if the "developing world" until they have reached number 1 economically speaking.

Yep - its why I always look at statistics with a discerning eye - what are they really trying to say? What do the statistics REALLY represent? Good statisticians can tell any story you want with the same statistics.

I was actually surprised the US was not on top - I thought I had read we were, but we are not and emissions are actually going down, unlike some other countries (mostly developing nations).

How this all plays out will be interesting and difficult I have no doubt.

 

[JesseS]

Don't forget the methane being released by melting permafrost as a result of global warming, a vicious cycle as the released methane increases global warming. I saw a video of huge methane bubbles surfacing in the arctic from warming seawater as well. We may be able to slow down the warming but not stop it as we may have the will but not the means of enforcement. The US West is entering a long dry cycle, so no improvement out here, serious water restrictions will start next year as Lake Mead hits minimum pool, and water flow to the Imperial valley and AZ farmers gets cut way back. California is already paying farmers to fallow fields due to water scarcity. Not looking good, and the ass hats in SoCal still water their 2 acre lawns! I took mine out 3 years ago. My hometown in the foothills used to get 2-3' of snow every year when I was a teen, now it gets none, or a dusting, sad. OK, rant over.

 

[Trigganometry]

Don't forget the methane being released by melting permafrost as a result of global warming, a vicious cycle as the released methane increases global warming. I saw a video of huge methane bubbles surfacing in the arctic from warming seawater as well. We may be able to slow down the warming but not stop it as we may have the will but not the means of enforcement. The US West is entering a long dry cycle, so no improvement out here, serious water restrictions will start next year as Lake Mead hits minimum pool, and water flow to the Imperial valley and AZ farmers gets cut way back. California is already paying farmers to fallow fields due to water scarcity. Not looking good, and the ass hats in SoCal still water their 2 acre lawns! I took mine out 3 years ago. My hometown in the foothills used to get 2-3' of snow every year when I was a teen, now it gets none, or a dusting, sad. OK, rant over.

Many people don’t realize how much methane comes from our oceans! Way more than you think! But they won’t tell you that

 

[Nellieg]

We are just exchanging one set of problems for another. Politics of money suggest what really drives it .. who benefits the most by it are the advocates who are the loudest... Just follow the money. Accounting for battery replacement and cost of energy production to store energy so you can 25% retrieve it later just doesn't make sense to me. Maybe it will be safer and cheaper in the future but we are heavily relying on a limited resource that is not readily available domestic. Follow the money.. who benefits...

 

[GTGallop]

Another big producer of methane is rice paddies. You don't hear a lot about the rice paddy impact because it generally is centered in less affluent areas of the world.

Swamps like the Mississippi Delta and Ever Glades produce methane from the vegetation that falls in it. There isn't a thing a live that doesn't produce methane by living, eating, or eventually dying.

 

[Cabose-1]

I think I rember the way - head west from Toronto and take a left at Lansing, keep heading southwest until you get to Flagstaff, then take a left. ??

How people get lost is beyond me. ??‍

Bugs bunny always missed the left at Albuquerque??

 

[Cabose-1]

Sooooo..... are the tires, and leather seats, and plastics, and ,paints, metals, any of it renewable, nonnpolluting, anything like that, battery acids, chemicals,...

Or its just the whole it doesn't use oil and thats enough/all we need.

I like ev cars myself, have plus, and minus, but, really i feel im just exchanging diarrhea pollution for vomit.

Really need to just use bicycles, public transportation and work where you live.

But i like to travel. I also smoke(cigars) and drink. Guess im just a bad dude.

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