A missed reservation and long charging times.

[myothercarizahearse]

Yes, but if there are too many of them (horses) we may have a new methane problem.

Especially if we are trying to gain HP!

stick a tube in the horse's hind end and bottle the methane...

...Why do I always end up being the problem solver?...

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[wanted33]

Like everything the Government does, they get the cart before the horse once again. BTW, I just saw a report that wind turbines killed 150 Bald Eagles last year. Oops..................SMH

 

[deleriumtremor]

The key to the EV, not that it will happen, is Propone Tanks!
OK the battery in the vehicle is swapped out with a fully charged battery and away you go. Just like Propane you do not "own" a single battery you exchange the depleted battery for another Charged Battery. Yes the vehicle would need designed for battery access out the bottom or side and it would seem a simple automated process to get this exchange done. When you buy a new EV your new battery goes into the battery pool.
Pull into the lane swipe your CC and the robot goes to work with the swap. IN-OUT NASCAR style. Who ever Patents this and makes Trillions you owe me a Beer..or Two and a steak grilled with propane!! LOL.

I would not be surprised if many, many patents already exist for that very proposition, likely owned by the usual suspects.

I believe the concept was first put forth by some of the Tesla guys (Elon being their mouthpiece, like always). I think he approached some of the other major's and inquired whether there would be any interest in universal battery standards (mostly packaging and interface standards) so the user of any of the participating EV companies could just pull into a service bay like affair and swap the depleted battery for a fully charged one. For it to work the battery handling would entail dealing with very heavy packs in an automated fashion.

I think their idea was you would would never own the battery in your car/truck. The idea was maybe similar to how commercial users get their industrial gases, where they don't own the tanks and the company that provides the gas and tanks, manage the whole life cycle of the vessels, all for a monthly use fee.

I believe Elon got no takers.

 

[9zero1790]

The original GM Volt used this technology. The gasoline engine was used solely to charge the battery, it had no physical connection to the drivetrain. The principle was that an ICE design to run at a single or limited rpm for charging could be engineered to run with greater efficiency than an ICE designed for a wide rpm band.

I can't remember which railroad published this, but the claim was they transported each ton of cargo 20 miles using only a gallon of diesel.

yes, similar to some ships and long range boats. a lugger engine puts along at a modest rpm so low fuel consumption low wear on parts but charges the system to actually turn the screws. I think Ge and wakuasha worked together on the tech way back.

 

[Fawnbuster]

Sure someday we will have a grid system and charging stations all across the country that work well. But this is the reality on what will happen now when we try and use a EV like we do an ICE vehicle today. I've said it many times I'm not against EV's (love the power/torque) it's just that we're not ready for the whole country to jump on board with them all at once like they're forcing us to now.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/missed-reservation-long-charging-times-152522267.html

The grid is so unprepared, last week locally they talked about possible rolling blackouts, how are they planning on charging everything plus run A/Cs and manufacturing plants?

The country is one EMP away from the early 1800's as it is. INSULATE the grid!

 

[NotBudule]

Absolutely love my E Ranger , it only gets charged at my house as I am never far from home , plus I don't really trust those charging stations anyway , who knows what kind of low grade dirty amps crazy wave lengh staticy volts they be putting in my baby ? , you think fuel in the oil was a problem ? You should see some of the stuff coming out of these charge port filters ...nasty...

 

[D Fresh]

The move to electric is simply too expensive of a move for most of us. And if there's one thing I've learned from these power hungry politicians it's that one day they'll mandate it it and make it "free" to all.

I paid out of pocket for pre-school AND full day kindergarten for both my kids. As at the time Colorado only paid for half day kindergarten at no extra charge. Fast forward a couple of years after the youngest was out and they vote in "free" full day kindergarten, guess what, no refund for me. Then this spring the politicians push forth "universal pre-k" which forces me to pay for everybody else's kids on top of the thousands I've already paid for mine.

So for EVs I'm just gonna wait. Eventually the Bureau of Automotive Reconciliation will determine we all must drive EVs and hand them out to everybody on the taxpayer's dime. Rather than buy my own, and everybody else's, I'll just wait. Maybe by that time I won't be paying anymore taxes.

As George W Bush once said...

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again. '"

 

[Ronbo]

The move to electric is simply too expensive of a move for most of us. And if there's one thing I've learned from these power hungry politicians it's that one day they'll mandate it it and make it "free" to all.

I paid out of pocket for pre-school AND full day kindergarten for both my kids. As at the time Colorado only paid for half day kindergarten at no extra charge. Fast forward a couple of years after the youngest was out and they vote in "free" full day kindergarten, guess what, no refund for me. Then this spring the politicians push forth "universal pre-k" which forces me to pay for everybody else's kids on top of the thousands I've already paid for mine.

So for EVs I'm just gonna wait. Eventually the Bureau of Automotive Reconciliation will determine we all must drive EVs and hand them out to everybody on the taxpayer's dime. Rather than buy my own, and everybody else's, I'll just wait. Maybe by that time I won't be paying anymore taxes.

As George W Bush Jr once said...

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again. '"

In his own bumbling way, he still made a very valid point. Lol.

 

[D Fresh]

In his own bumbling way, he still made a very valid point. Lol.

Sure did.

 

[Grumpaw]

Doc. Smith had the solution back in 1987....simple mod to make it available to everyone...
Just adapt the electric pick up to charge batteries via a lightning strike.
Just find and follow electric storms as you travel cross country.

 

[Motorpsychology]

"There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again. '"

Never misunderestimate the Dubya.

 

[Radioman]

We don’t have rolling blackouts in Northern California.

Nice post Kevin and I agree with most of it, however, unlike the area you live in, PG&E shuts off power in many areas whenever there is a strong breeze and hot temps (several times a year). Sometimes those blackouts last for a day or more.

 

[HDEO]

Nice post Kevin and I agree with most of it, however, unlike the area you live in, PG&E shuts off power in many areas whenever there is a strong breeze and hot temps (several times a year). Sometimes those blackouts last for a day or more.

Kent,

Maybe it’s just a question of terminology. We get those PSPS aka public safety power shutoffs too. I thought a blackout was due to the utility actually unable to supply the power demand due to capacity constraints, not choosing to turn power off to avoid starting another wildfire. In any case, you are right, the reliability of power here isn’t the best.

 

[fob63]

Hybrids are the immediate answer for travel. EV's for city or short trips.
Road trip in a KIA SUV hybrid a few weeks ago and was really impressed with both the MPG and city driving. It had enough pickup on highway to be comfortable. AVG 41.7 MPG

 

[Scottopia]

I think the real wake up call is coming when the ones that are on the road now hit the end of useful life cycle. The value and getting rid of it will open many peoples eyes. You’re probably going to have to pay a disposal fee to boot. Not to mention the environmental carnage getting the materials to build them in mass amounts.

?10 years in the future the latest crisis will be the influx of dead EV batteries and how we must now transition away from them to human powered propulsion systems.

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