Seeking advice from any members who have brought their truck into Ford for 10r80 transmission issues

[Stevedbvik1]

I could be wrong since there’s a lot of conflicting information, but others have mentioned since mine was built in December 2022 it has the updated CDF drum?

08/22 was the change date per the TSB. Yours should be the updated.

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[stringbreaker]

I could be wrong since there’s a lot of conflicting information, but others have mentioned since mine was built in December 2022 it has the updated CDF drum?

We can only hope. I'm not convinced the problems with the 10R80 have been resolved

 

[oarsirhc]

We can only hope. I'm not convinced the problems with the 10R80 have been resolved

Sir, neither am I. It's such a shame because other than that, I absolutely love the truck. I guess time will tell, and with the mileage I drive I have about another year before I'm out of warranty.

 

[LvRob]

I have my appointment for my 2022 ranger lariat at the dealership. Next week. Is the second winter that this issue has appeared and this time I will be doing a video recording each time I start and drive the car as evidence of what's going wrong. I also told the dealer do not warm up the engine rather put it in drive immediately after hitting the start button. Hopefully these low night time temperatures continue here in eastern Pennsylvania. And they find the issue

 

[RangerBill]

I have my appointment for my 2022 ranger lariat at the dealership. Next week. Is the second winter that this issue has appeared and this time I will be doing a video recording each time I start and drive the car as evidence of what's going wrong. I also told the dealer do not warm up the engine rather put it in drive immediately after hitting the start button. Hopefully these low night time temperatures continue here in eastern Pennsylvania. And they find the issue

What issue are you having?

 

[LvRob]

What issue are you having?

Cold weather shifting from first gear seems to be a complete miss of up to 3 seconds long before it finds the next gear. Only happens in cold weather. Only happens if the engine is not warmed up. It can be a real problem when I pull out of work onto a high-speed road. Car jumps into first gear. No problem, and then my head lurches forward because of the missed shift. Truck is still under the 5-year 60,000 mile warranty.

 

[stringbreaker]

Cold weather shifting from first gear seems to be a complete miss of up to 3 seconds long before it finds the next gear. Only happens in cold weather. Only happens if the engine is not warmed up. It can be a real problem when I pull out of work onto a high-speed road. Car jumps into first gear. No problem, and then my head lurches forward because of the missed shift. Truck is still under the 5-year 60,000 mile warranty.

That's exactly how mine started the winter of 24

 

[oarsirhc]

Cold weather shifting from first gear seems to be a complete miss of up to 3 seconds long before it finds the next gear. Only happens in cold weather. Only happens if the engine is not warmed up. It can be a real problem when I pull out of work onto a high-speed road. Car jumps into first gear. No problem, and then my head lurches forward because of the missed shift. Truck is still under the 5-year 60,000 mile warranty.

Funny enough, I brought this up to the SA when I dropped my truck off and he told me since they couldn’t replicate it consistently it’s not something they can diagnose. He did notate it in the file, but I found it discouraging for the $400 they were going to charge to diagnose they wouldn’t at least try and replicate it. It’s down right scary because my first merge in the morning is out my condo development onto a highway with hundreds rushing to work. That few second delay in shifting can be the difference of some bozo rear ending me going 60+

 

[Fordup]

Cold weather shifting from first gear seems to be a complete miss of up to 3 seconds long before it finds the next gear. Only happens in cold weather. Only happens if the engine is not warmed up. It can be a real problem when I pull out of work onto a high-speed road. Car jumps into first gear. No problem, and then my head lurches forward because of the missed shift. Truck is still under the 5-year 60,000 mile warranty.

Mine has done that since new when cold. I just let it warm up 10 minutes now. The bad part is it sometimes slams down to first moments after stopping. Not often but feels like something bumped into you. I have a early 22 but waiting for it to get worse as I have the 8 year warranty and is tough to catch if left at the dealership 30 miles away that turns into 120 miles of driving to drop it off and pick it up.

 

[RedlandRanger]

Cold weather shifting from first gear seems to be a complete miss of up to 3 seconds long before it finds the next gear. Only happens in cold weather. Only happens if the engine is not warmed up. It can be a real problem when I pull out of work onto a high-speed road. Car jumps into first gear. No problem, and then my head lurches forward because of the missed shift. Truck is still under the 5-year 60,000 mile warranty.

I'm not sure that will be considered a problem. It is kind of a known issue that if the ULV fluid is cold, it doesn't work very well and has delayed shifts. My truck has been that way from day 1. It is usually only one hard shift when it is cold and then it is OK. I've started to let it warm up a bit before taking off and the hard initial shifts have lessened considerably.

It will be interesting to hear what they say but I wouldn't be surprised if you hear "working as designed".

 

[Racket]

After watching videos at length on the 10R80 addressed by Nate at Nex Gen I sense that while the CDF redesign has resolved one point of premature failure the components in the valve body are a problem Ford has not addressed. Ford 'might' be tweaking software and it sounds like it's another cause of problems.

 

[oarsirhc]

UPDATE 3:

Called in today since it's been a week only to find out my SA is on PTO. I spoke with another gentleman in the service department and he told me the valve body was replaced but the technician took it for a test drive and was unhappy with how it went into gear. From here they are going to perform a pressure test to narrow down which gear is faulty. They're not sure of an ETA but he did mention if they find several gears with issues it could lead to an entire transmission swap. Time will tell!

 

[LBT]

I’ve had similar, although I would say more minor issues. Seeing these threads with people taking their Rangers in to have diagnostics run on the transmission is making me think I should while I’m still under the powertrain warranty.

1. Rough and delayed 3-4 shift when it’s cold
2. Some seemingly random weird shifts
3. Tow mode seems rougher than I’d like
4. The rough downshift sometimes when I’m braking
5. Yesterday I had a couple times where it seemed to rumble and refuse to shift up until I let up on the throttle

That last one was a new one that got me thinking it might be good to get it checked. Concerned they won’t be able to replicate anything but the rough delayed 3-4 morning shift and tow mode and may just reset the adaptive tables though. Which I could do myself. Does any of that sound like things to worry about or really just things that may be caused by recently reset tables from adding the FPP tune?

 

[oarsirhc]

UPDATE 4:

Got a call back from Ford, apparently the pressure test did not go well and they're at a loss for what else to do. Due to this, they're taking apart the transmission earlier next week and submitting detailed pictures to Ford corporate to see how they want to handle it. Fingers crossed for a new transmission, because I really have no faith in the current one.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

UPDATE 4:

Got a call back from Ford, apparently the pressure test did not go well and they're at a loss for what else to do. Due to this, they're taking apart the transmission earlier next week and submitting detailed pictures to Ford corporate to see how they want to handle it. Fingers crossed for a new transmission, because I really have no faith in the current one.

It will be interesting to see what they find. Another gut feeling guess would be the outer shell grooved up. But who knows. I hope they just move you into a new transmission.

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