Larger Tires on Stock Tremor Wheels w/o lift or spacers

[CityTremor]

Hi everyone.
Sorry if this is repeat, but I read thru several threads and didn't find a definitive answer. What is the largest size tire I can install on stock 2022 Tremor with stock Tremor wheels without spacers or lifts, only replacing the crash bars for the thinner aftermarkets? Also, which of crash bars are bolt-on, no cutting anything. My front bumper came from factory crocked, higher on driver's side so I will be loosening the bumper anyways. Thanks

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[Colo_Ranger]

Hi everyone.
Sorry if this is repeat, but I read thru several threads and didn't find a definitive answer. What is the largest size tire I can install on stock 2022 Tremor with stock Tremor wheels without spacers or lifts, only replacing the crash bars for the thinner aftermarkets? Also, which of crash bars are bolt-on, no cutting anything. My front bumper came from factory crocked, higher on driver's side so I will be loosening the bumper anyways. Thanks

265/70r17 is the biggest you can fit on OE wheels and no lift. You shouldn't even need to adjust the crash bars. You *might* be able to fit 285/70r17 on OE wheels and no lift but you would need to remove/replace the crash bars. The trick here is which tire you choose. Some run big, some run small, so you need to actually test fit them.

 

[Fitzmotor]

I put 275/70/17 on a stock height Tremor and it is fine, barely touches the crash bars on the front at full compression with the wheel turned, I mean just polishes the powder coating, not even rubs it off. I did have to remove the plastic covers though. I loosened the crash bar bolts and rapped them with a small sledge to seat them as far forward as possible, tightened the bolts and it's good. I put on the Falcon Wildpeak AT3, which you can't find anymore, any bigger tire than that would rub enough to have to do something.

 

[OGMix376]

+ 1 for the answer fitzmotor gave.
The oem tremor wheels are 17x8 with +42 offset (this is slightly different from the Ranger sport oem wheel offset of +55.. I’m unsure of the oem sport wheel width.)
275/70r17 is the “safe” largest tire with zero modifications..
Changing the intrusion bars/crash bars…
You’ll have a slight rub with 285/70r17’s
When the suspension compresses during a turn.. or the usual slight rub when reversing on less than smooth-ish surfaces..
When I was researching this that’s what I came up with based on.
Most to fit 285’s with as little lift as possible. Seem to do a 2” lift puck (from a stock ranger) ((this is a 1” to 3/4in increase over the Tremor specific stock height.)) and then because of the offset will run a spacer (1” wheel spacer pushes the offset to a +29.6mm) this is to provide clearance so the added width of the tire doesn’t rub against the control arm or steering knuckle/spindle, remove or use high clearance intrusion beams/crash bars..
And will still have on occasion ((our trucks do vary ever so slightly as well as our driving styles)) a slight rub during certain maneuvers..
275 vs 285 /70r17 difference is only really about a half inch (this will vary a bit depending on tire manufacturer and type ((M/T vs A/T vs R/T))..

275/70r17’s aren’t super easy to find..it’ll be a better fit.
285/70r17’s plentiful, you may have to deal with a very slight occasional rub on things no one really looks at anyway.

overall either size will look good..

or you could go the route I went, bite the bullet… jack that little ranger up to the sky, get really aggressive offset wheels, and put 315/70r17’s on it (( true measure of my tires is actually 34.5x12.1 though .) however that goes against everything you’re currently asking for.

One more time…
zero issue is 275/70r17

anyway hope I provided a positive impact.

And i apologize if anything I’ve written is incorrect.. pretty sure it’s accurate..

 

[CityTremor]

Thank you so much, you guys make this forum great.

As you guys suggest, I'll probably go with the 275s unless I find a nice tire shop willing to test the 285s with the skinner aftermarket crash bars, and since I do know the same size varies slightly by manufacturer, I'll look for the tallest and widest brand. I'm trying to fill the gaping wheel wells (mainly rears) just for looks. That's the only style issue I have with the Ranger. As my handle implies, my Tremor is just for puddle jumping when streets flood, no off roading or I'll end up stuck in the everglades. There's not a lot of solid ground in south Florida.

BTW, just to share a few tidbits and hopefully help someone else.

A couple of months ago right before my OE warranty expired I noticed, and then had my local dealer change the black aluminum gutters along the roof. Look carefully for any white discoloration deep down between the front and rear seams. You should only see a black seem. Looks fine at first glance but that white discoloration is corrosion building. One side actually had small bubbles under the powder coat or whatever that finish is. A friend had the same thing but caught it too late after the OE warranty expired. They gave me a hard time at first but you gotta bitch.

Had the same low brake pedal issue I read on many posts. After I nagged the dealer several times, they finally agreed to perform that ABS blead procedure (without opening system) I saw on YouTube, and it helped a bit but it's still not as I hoped. Only lingering disappointing issue I have.

Had to glue a hard piece of plastic to the right side of the tail gate next to the striker. Had a gap of about 1/4" larger on the left side than the right. Can't believe they didn't see it and let this truck out of the factory like that. But that piece worked perfectly, out-of-sight and I even forget it's there.

Don't apply that Cerakote Trim Coat anywhere on your truck. Yeah, it works at first, but after a while it grays out the surface and looks 100 times worse than it ever was. Dealer agreed to change the "B" pillars trim, which are just stickers where the front and rear door windows meet, but refused to change the rubber all around the windows, my bad - and I hope this notice will prevent someone from applying this crap on their truck.

And it's not just the OE trim. I had installed a LEER low profile bed cover right after delivery. The Cerakote also grayed out that fiberglass where it looks like it's been there for 10 years. My real-world test on different materials confirmed to me that stuff is crap.

Lastly, I ended up with two new wrong size LEER covers, possibly due to a part number labeling mistake by LEER at the factory. One looks like it's for a full-size truck like an F150 or similar, the other is for a 6ft Long Bed Ranger. Both have the same part number and truck model number on the boxes - go figure. They didn't want them back and I hate throwing them away, so I'm keeping them to sell way below selling price. I see there's a Direct Message or DM feature here, let me know if interested.

Thanks everyone.
Regards.

 

[OGMix376]

Some hours north, north west of you is some firmer land and pretty trails..(double check if they’re open though, closures happen, but some of the places have been closed for a longer than usual time.). But Georgia and Tennessee I’ve heard have some nice trails/dirt roads that lead to some pretty camp sites… idk for sure about if some of that stuff is still open though haven’t been that side of the country in about 16-17 years

 

[CityTremor]

Yup, I've traveled as a passenger thru Georgia and the Carolinas, and driven thru Tennessee and Kentucky in rentals, and I've seen great looking trails. For us flat-earth people that landscape is beautifully mesmerizing. Even simple sloping hills on the turnpike are beautiful. The closest thing here are the majestic slopes of our landfills... Maybe one day I'll take the CityTremor.

 

[LowKeyTremor]

+ 1 for the answer fitzmotor gave.
The oem tremor wheels are 17x8 with +42 offset (this is slightly different from the Ranger sport oem wheel offset of +55.. I’m unsure of the oem sport wheel width.)
275/70r17 is the “safe” largest tire with zero modifications..
Changing the intrusion bars/crash bars…
You’ll have a slight rub with 285/70r17’s
When the suspension compresses during a turn.. or the usual slight rub when reversing on less than smooth-ish surfaces..
When I was researching this that’s what I came up with based on.
Most to fit 285’s with as little lift as possible. Seem to do a 2” lift puck (from a stock ranger) ((this is a 1” to 3/4in increase over the Tremor specific stock height.)) and then because of the offset will run a spacer (1” wheel spacer pushes the offset to a +29.6mm) this is to provide clearance so the added width of the tire doesn’t rub against the control arm or steering knuckle/spindle, remove or use high clearance intrusion beams/crash bars..
And will still have on occasion ((our trucks do vary ever so slightly as well as our driving styles)) a slight rub during certain maneuvers..
275 vs 285 /70r17 difference is only really about a half inch (this will vary a bit depending on tire manufacturer and type ((M/T vs A/T vs R/T))..

275/70r17’s aren’t super easy to find..it’ll be a better fit.
285/70r17’s plentiful, you may have to deal with a very slight occasional rub on things no one really looks at anyway.

overall either size will look good..

or you could go the route I went, bite the bullet… jack that little ranger up to the sky, get really aggressive offset wheels, and put 315/70r17’s on it (( true measure of my tires is actually 34.5x12.1 though .) however that goes against everything you’re currently asking for.

One more time…
zero issue is 275/70r17

anyway hope I provided a positive impact.

And i apologize if anything I’ve written is incorrect.. pretty sure it’s accurate..

OG:

If you don't mind...
You've caught my attention w/ 'jack that ranger to the sky' & 310/70f17s'. How exactly did you go about this nice little feat, right up my alley?

I'm looking to do something which isn't mild either. Swapping in some 33x12.5s on a 20x9 w/ 0.00mm offset RTX Zions or similar (im not 100% on zions... but I have stuck w/ Tremor colors on parts, so glossy black & red accented parts ir in multiple cases - like w/ wheels; BOTH .

I've got:

• Ready Lift High Clearance Crash Bars
• Ford Ranger Lifts 2" front spacers
• Not that it matters, rear blocks; truck is 2" taller on all 4 corners

How did you get height?
What are specs on your wheels? Curious on offset/backspacing...

Thanks!

 

[OGMix376]

OG:

If you don't mind...
You've caught my attention w/ 'jack that ranger to the sky' & 310/70f17s'. How exactly did you go about this nice little feat, right up my alley?

I'm looking to do something which isn't mild either. Swapping in some 33x12.5s on a 20x9 w/ 0.00mm offset RTX Zions or similar (im not 100% on zions... but I have stuck w/ Tremor colors on parts, so glossy black & red accented parts ir in multiple cases - like w/ wheels; BOTH .

I've got:

• Ready Lift High Clearance Crash Bars
• Ford Ranger Lifts 2" front spacers
• Not that it matters, rear blocks; truck is 2" taller on all 4 corners

How did you get height?
What are specs on your wheels? Curious on offset/backspacing...

Thanks!

Of course.. short answer is
Bds 6” lift kit
Method 17x8.5 -38 offset
General grabber 315/70r17
Camburg kinetic UCA’s (absolutely not needed specifically just I like them so very much.. much less expensive options out there for the UCA’s)

So the starting point obviously expect to buy the wheels tires and lift at the same time if you go this route and currently have the oem wheels… (oem wheels are NOT compatible.)

BDS 6” lift (fox2.5 front extended coil overs, fox 2.0 rear shocks. (These come with the kit))
https://bds-suspension.com/products/6-inch-lift-kit-fox-2-5-coil-over-ford-ranger-19-23-4wd

Method wheels. 17x8.5 -38 offset.. (in your case running the 20x9’s you’ll be able to run a more inboard offset likely a zero (the 20” wheels clear the tie rod ends for the steering which having 17” wheels is why I had to push so far out to clear them, and going with 33x12.5 you’ll likely have a easier time clearing..(I still have a very slight rub at full lock in revrse.)
Tires are General Grabbers 315/70r17..
I like small wheel big tire.

basically the kit is pretty complete. There will be some trimming and cutting…
With 33” tires I’d expect about one inch less clearance reading on the tape measure on the lowest points that I pictured.

 

[TxOTRRanger]

Of course.. short answer is
Bds 6” lift kit
Method 17x8.5 -38 offset
General grabber 315/70r17
Camburg kinetic UCA’s (absolutely not needed specifically just I like them so very much.. much less expensive options out there for the UCA’s)

So the starting point obviously expect to buy the wheels tires and lift at the same time if you go this route and currently have the oem wheels… (oem wheels are NOT compatible.)

BDS 6” lift (fox2.5 front extended coil overs, fox 2.0 rear shocks. (These come with the kit))
https://bds-suspension.com/products/6-inch-lift-kit-fox-2-5-coil-over-ford-ranger-19-23-4wd

Method wheels. 17x8.5 -38 offset.. (in your case running the 20x9’s you’ll be able to run a more inboard offset likely a zero (the 20” wheels clear the tie rod ends for the steering which having 17” wheels is why I had to push so far out to clear them, and going with 33x12.5 you’ll likely have a easier time clearing..(I still have a very slight rub at full lock in revrse.)
Tires are General Grabbers 315/70r17..
I like small wheel big tire.

basically the kit is pretty complete. There will be some trimming and cutting…
With 33” tires I’d expect about one inch less clearance reading on the tape measure on the lowest points that I pictured.

@OGMix376, has himself a streetable mini monster truck lol!

 

[OGMix376]

@OGMix376, has himself a streetable mini monster truck lol!

Almost .. the legal limit for the ford ranger is like 30” to the frame of the truck..
To the frame of the truck I still have like 6”-7” higher… leaf pack in the rear, longer bolts, line extensions for all the rear end stuff..(so that’ll be a few custom brackets aswell since they are already getting tight under some extreme droop and such).
In the front It could probably be as easy as adding some 2” lift spacers... and then I might be able to put 37x13.5’s (or whatever).. I’d then be right at the Cali legal limit for the Rangers GVWR legal maximum lift…

but you nailed it I wanted mini monster truck..

 

[LowKeyTremor]

Of course.. short answer is
Bds 6” lift kit
Method 17x8.5 -38 offset
General grabber 315/70r17
Camburg kinetic UCA’s (absolutely not needed specifically just I like them so very much.. much less expensive options out there for the UCA’s)

So the starting point obviously expect to buy the wheels tires and lift at the same time if you go this route and currently have the oem wheels… (oem wheels are NOT compatible.)

BDS 6” lift (fox2.5 front extended coil overs, fox 2.0 rear shocks. (These come with the kit))
https://bds-suspension.com/products/6-inch-lift-kit-fox-2-5-coil-over-ford-ranger-19-23-4wd

Method wheels. 17x8.5 -38 offset.. (in your case running the 20x9’s you’ll be able to run a more inboard offset likely a zero (the 20” wheels clear the tie rod ends for the steering which having 17” wheels is why I had to push so far out to clear them, and going with 33x12.5 you’ll likely have a easier time clearing..(I still have a very slight rub at full lock in revrse.)
Tires are General Grabbers 315/70r17..
I like small wheel big tire.

basically the kit is pretty complete. There will be some trimming and cutting…
With 33” tires I’d expect about one inch less clearance reading on the tape measure on the lowest points that I pictured.

My MAN!!!!! EXCEPTIONALLY BAD ASS COMBO you've put together!! (On the scope of bad-ass, you are WAAYYY into deep fkng awesome territory! Delishiously SWEET SETUP! It's a motivator for sure!

Looking at bash plates and Tremor stickers from a post, AND Tremor forum, you DO INDEED have a Tremor, correct?

If so, which parts were integral into making the lift kit work (given Tremor specific parts limiting us?) UCAs look awesome AS DOES ENTIRE TRUCK!

I really should stay on a relatively moderate path; I can only do so for a limited amount of time.

EXPIRATION FOR HOLDING BACK = when I do not HAVE to daily drive the truck. Once I set my sports sedan, it's on!

I've got: Borla S Type, Mishimoto CAI, BOV & some aesthetics; functional and just for looks.

In the meantime, the larger tires w/ upgraded wheels that will be utilized WHEN I get to AGGRESSIVE suspension territory (or as was mentioned, mini monster truck level), I'll squeeze what I can out of this bad boy on performance and looks!

• CVF Innercooler + Hot & Cold charge pipe combo
• CVF Downpipe (already have Borla S Type for a nice overall sound
• Livernois Tune -
  • 91 octane Aggressive
  • Debating ethanol tune... maybe hold off
  • 91 octane street
  • 91 octane Tow
  • 91 or 87 economy (I really just run 91 all the time, so not sure)
• 4.10s as an offset to wheels and the multiplier effect, although I see 4.46 popping up more often. Don't want to go overboard on gearing, as I would like 70mph to be reasonable rpm range. (have Lifervois shut off auto off/on and adjust for tires and gears)

Am I missing anything? I think larger radiator, tranny cooler, etc for when I have nothing holding me back.

Sorry - long post...

I won't go insane and list aesthetic parts, but honorable mentions are at least:

• AVS Aeroguard Lightshield Pro (LOVE amber lights & the visual on the taller nose of hood should pair well w/ maintained rake w/ 2"fr coil spacers & 2" height incr w/ Bilsteins due to blocks. I think will be strong look.
• Roush Larger Fender Flares w/ amber leds on back; I saw example of similar wheel-tire combo and it's AGGRESSIVE! I'm happy w/, but those flares should give entire truck wider body appearance, STILL allowing tires to poke out enough, which - to me - is a must. Doesn't hurt that color is a match for Tremor factory flares.

Man crush on the look with the right aggressive wire poke-out (I think my combo will hit that sweet spot!)! The amber lights and then my way of adding them to hood = no Roush clone attempt whatsoever; yet similar ideas to Roush and Raptor)

 

[OGMix376]

My MAN!!!!! EXCEPTIONALLY BAD ASS COMBO you've put together!! (On the scope of bad-ass, you are WAAYYY into deep fkng awesome territory! Delishiously SWEET SETUP! It's a motivator for sure!

Looking at bash plates and Tremor stickers from a post, AND Tremor forum, you DO INDEED have a Tremor, correct?

If so, which parts were integral into making the lift kit work (given Tremor specific parts limiting us?) UCAs look awesome AS DOES ENTIRE TRUCK!

I really should stay on a relatively moderate path; I can only do so for a limited amount of time.

EXPIRATION FOR HOLDING BACK = when I do not HAVE to daily drive the truck. Once I set my sports sedan, it's on!

I've got: Borla S Type, Mishimoto CAI, BOV & some aesthetics; functional and just for looks.

In the meantime, the larger tires w/ upgraded wheels that will be utilized WHEN I get to AGGRESSIVE suspension territory (or as was mentioned, mini monster truck level), I'll squeeze what I can out of this bad boy on performance and looks!

• CVF Innercooler + Hot & Cold charge pipe combo
• CVF Downpipe (already have Borla S Type for a nice overall sound
• Livernois Tune -
  • 91 octane Aggressive
  • Debating ethanol tune... maybe hold off
  • 91 octane street
  • 91 octane Tow
  • 91 or 87 economy (I really just run 91 all the time, so not sure)
• 4.10s as an offset to wheels and the multiplier effect, although I see 4.46 popping up more often. Don't want to go overboard on gearing, as I would like 70mph to be reasonable rpm range. (have Lifervois shut off auto off/on and adjust for tires and gears)

Am I missing anything? I think larger radiator, tranny cooler, etc for when I have nothing holding me back.

Sorry - long post...

I won't go insane and list aesthetic parts, but honorable mentions are at least:

• AVS Aeroguard Lightshield Pro (LOVE amber lights & the visual on the taller nose of hood should pair well w/ maintained rake w/ 2"fr coil spacers & 2" height incr w/ Bilsteins due to blocks. I think will be strong look.
• Roush Larger Fender Flares w/ amber leds on back; I saw example of similar wheel-tire combo and it's AGGRESSIVE! I'm happy w/, but those flares should give entire truck wider body appearance, STILL allowing tires to poke out enough, which - to me - is a must. Doesn't hurt that color is a match for Tremor factory flares.

Man crush on the look with the right aggressive wire poke-out (I think my combo will hit that sweet spot!)! The amber lights and then my way of adding them to hood = no Roush clone attempt whatsoever; yet similar ideas to Roush and Raptor)

This is hands down the most spirited positive response I’ve got on TRuCK..
Yes it was a 2023 Ranger Tremor.
Everything pretty much falls inline.. the only issue was they sent the incorrect bolt pack originally.. these ones

Was the only real hang up…
After a couple quick emails to BDS Techs.
It was remedied within a 14 days.
..
The UCA’s aren’t needed.. you can get stock ones or go after market..(mind that most aftermarket UCA’s are usually made with 1” minimum increased lift so the “T” as I call it will be slightly Leaned out.
I plan to go with a 1.5” or 2” spacer on top.. which will push the cv’s out of spec again as if you did a 2” spacer lift..
In the rear I have a bit more to figure out.
The next set of tires mark my words will be 37’s..
Suspension wise tremors are basically the same as a fx4 that had Fox shock swap..(better leaf pack wheels and tires aswell).
The driverside gas tank sag spacer has a bit of a issue with the detent thingy needing a bit of checking out so the it won’t slip out.. (have to extend the pin on the tank sag spacer and drill a hole into the bottom of the 4” spacer provided by BDS simple enough). But pretty much if it fits a 5 g ranger it’ll fit the tremor. A couple areas of concern (if you go 6”… your case maybe just go 3.5” BDS Fox 2.5 four corners much simpler.. but not as balls to the wall. And it comes with a diff drop/angle kit and UCA’s… since the 3.5” lift doesn’t come with a cross member and spindles/knuckles)..
All in all BDS to me is well worth the extra money.

The front diff contact on the rear front subframe mount..
Highly recommended to have a good set of second hands to help.. ..
I’m looking at the CVF equipment for the turbo pipes and intercooler too, I have the livernoise tuner but I haven’t installed it yet…

feel free to direct message me also so we don’t pirate the thread

 

[LowKeyTremor]

I'll say this last part on the thread, THEN DIRECT MESSAGE INDEED! I would accidentally pirate the GD Hell out of it, just being clueless!

I'm just giving respect AND kudos where it's due, so I had to throw it out there! Take away my limitations for now, and as a whole package, that is my idea of how it's done!

I like blazing my own trail, but with all the warnings I've heard when it comes to Tremor-specific parts re: front suspension, I don't mind following the tracks you've already made on the suspension side!

Oh, and my choice to run 20" wheels (I think) leaves just enough sidewall for 33s (a saw and maybe even the minimum), but pairing w/ 35s, the vibe would be: "it'd be whole lot cooler if ya did"

I'm not into the lo-pro look that i swear I've seen on some street-only superduties... omg they must be 26" wheels! Even if there is sidewall, it's the ratio of wheel to sidewall that exaggerates the look!

I'm borrowing from someone who used the Ford Ranger Lifts, but I really like it, AND it tells me those Roush flares should be pretty perfect! LOOK AT THAT; calling for mr Roush

I TRULY APOLOGIZE TO WHOEVER'S TRUCK THIS IS.. BUT IT'S 100% COMPLIMENT ON 33X12.5 W/ 2" Ford RangerLift on Tremor

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