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what were the issues that prompted folks to try a brake bleed?
Bed the brakes, not bleed the brakes.
Bedding in your brakes involves several harsh stops, to the point that you can smell your brakes
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what were the issues that prompted folks to try a brake bleed?
Hi Nick,

Bed, not Bleed...

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Hi Mike,

You may be able to improve the brakes by bedding them in as other folks have found.

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Phil, I tried it as mentioned in one of those threads. Seemed to improve but in reality not much. I believe its the overall system. Someone mentioned elsewhere it's because of the vacuum assist which makes sense given the sometimes soft, sometimes firm, sometimes firm to (deliberate/mechanical) soft in same pedal push. The brakes do their job though so not worried about.
 

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Hi Nick,

Bed, not Bleed...

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gotcha, I see that now. My aging eyes were playing tricks again..thx.
 

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Phil, I tried it as mentioned in one of those threads. Seemed to improve but in reality not much. I believe its the overall system. Someone mentioned elsewhere it's because of the vacuum assist which makes sense given the sometimes soft, sometimes firm, sometimes firm to (deliberate/mechanical) soft in same pedal push. The brakes do their job though so not worried about.
For me its exactly what you describe the petal to be, so I'm glad its not me being overly sensitive to a new type of brake 'feel'. My Ram was basically no mush to 'take up' if you put your foot into the pedal you were in the 'brake' without fail with a nice firm feel [sorry kinda sounds sexual]. After 10 years as my daily driver and 148k miles I'm just super used to it. Probably the most uncomfortable aspect of my Ranger, every time I brake I'm thinking about the brakes! In the same way if every breath you took you thought about your lungs.
 


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Ditto - while I didn't object to the ride on the Tacoma, I found the engine and transmission combo to be definitely not to my liking. I have to say I do think the seats are more comfortable in the Ranger and I think it rides less like a truck (more like an SUV) than the Tacoma. Some people think the Ranger is too bouncy, but I personally like it, especially since it is my daily driver.
My wife and I love our Lariat Ranger FX4 overall and in particular find the (front) seats really comfortable, just the right degree of firmness and with good and adjustable lumbar support. However, like some other members of this forum, we do find the Ranger too "bouncy," even over the smallest imperfections in the road. This is just a personal preference, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions about what constitutes a great ride. However, since we do find this annoying, and since it is the only issue we have with our new Ranger, is there anything that can be done about it? The tires are inflated according to specifications, just above thirty, and so there is not much leeway there. I am considering replacing the "off-road tuned shocks" with something a little softer, hoping to get a calmer street ride while keeping most of the off-road features intact. Can anyone offer some advice on what would be the best way to go with this? I would appreciate any suggestions, including brands and models of shocks, etc. Thanks in advance for your help?
 

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For me its exactly what you describe the pedal to be, so I'm glad its not me being overly sensitive to a new type of brake 'feel'. My Ram was basically no mush to 'take up' if you put your foot into the pedal you were in the 'brake' without fail with a nice firm feel [sorry kinda sounds sexual]. After 10 years as my daily driver and 148k miles I'm just super used to it. Probably the most uncomfortable aspect of my Ranger, every time I brake I'm thinking about the brakes! In the same way if every breath you took you thought about your lungs.
It took me about two days to understand the strange brakes on the new Ranger. Braking is now intuitive and effective.
My TC took a little time as well since it does that "same thing only different" with progressive or anticipating brakes.
Some cars have speed sensitive variable rate steering as well, another learning curve.

I'm not sure if this is a good description but...
Try always using a soft pedal approach and feel the truck's progressive braking with more pedal.
It feels natural after a while.


The best advice may be straight off the cover of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".

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My wife and I love our Lariat Ranger FX4 overall and in particular find the (front) seats really comfortable, just the right degree of firmness and with good and adjustable lumbar support. However, like some other members of this forum, we do find the Ranger too "bouncy," even over the smallest imperfections in the road. This is just a personal preference, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions about what constitutes a great ride. However, since we do find this annoying, and since it is the only issue we have with our new Ranger, is there anything that can be done about it? The tires are inflated according to specifications, just above thirty, and so there is not much leeway there. I am considering replacing the "off-road tuned shocks" with something a little softer, hoping to get a calmer street ride while keeping most of the off-road features intact. Can anyone offer some advice on what would be the best way to go with this? I would appreciate any suggestions, including brands and models of shocks, etc. Thanks in advance for your help?
I would look for adjustable shocks if the ride was not to my liking. I don't know what the market has for Rangers yet but I had adjustables on my Jeep ( which got swapped during a lift) and loved them. If I change mine I will go with an adjustable but right now the ride is great for me. Shocktober is coming up!
 

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I would look for adjustable shocks if the ride was not to my liking. I don't know what the market has for Rangers yet but I had adjustables on my Jeep ( which got swapped during a lift) and loved them. If I change mine I will go with an adjustable but right now the ride is great for me. Shocktober is coming up!
Larry, thanks for the advice! I will definitely look into this!
 

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I consider "Quiet" a major aspect of ride quality...Ford is nearly silent inside...Toyota is more like a tin can...IMO
 

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Hello all

Ride quality is pretty important to me as I will be daily driving my new truck. I am cross-shopping with the Tacoma. So far I have only test driven the Ranger and loved it, especially it's comfortable ride. However, I just read a kelly blue book review claiming that the Tacoma offered a more comfortable ride.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/ford-ranger-vs-toyota-tacoma-comparison/2100006727/

Would love to hear your thoughts!
I am not sure what Tacoma they tested but I love trucks but I also love comfortable. On my test drives there was no comparison. The Ranger was far superior to the Tacoma. The only truck close to the Ranger for comfort in my mind was the Ridgeline.
 

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I just read the review and two things really stuck out for me:
  1. They made no mention of the powertrain differences - The powertrain on the Ranger is what sets it apart from its competitors I think. I would certainly consider it an "advantage" over the Tacoma.
  2. I'm really surprised they consider the Ranger ride "stiff" - If they don't like it, most people call it bouncy - at least the FX4s. The review isn't specific about which version they tested. I personally felt the Tacoma to be more "trucky" (stiff) than the Ranger. It is why it is important for each person to test drive all vehicles they are considering - everyone has their own likes and dislikes and what one person calls "stiff" another may consider "perfect".
Agreed! My brother and I drove a Taco a few months before I got my Ranger (he was looking at a Taco at the time), and the minute I drove the Ranger over a few bumps, it was noticeably better. The Taco had a fairly consistent live rear axle vibration, especially at highway speeds on smooth roads. And was noticeably stiffer than the Ranger. Anyone who thinks the Ranger is stiff (in regards to the midsize truck segment) is crazy or comparing it to something outside the class.
 

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Hello all

Ride quality is pretty important to me as I will be daily driving my new truck. I am cross-shopping with the Tacoma. So far I have only test driven the Ranger and loved it, especially it's comfortable ride. However, I just read a kelly blue book review claiming that the Tacoma offered a more comfortable ride.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/ford-ranger-vs-toyota-tacoma-comparison/2100006727/

Would love to hear your thoughts!
OP I understand the cross-shopping - To chime in here - I am a huge fan of the Tacoma. Drove one over 7 years and the trade-in value was amazing. I had convinced myself I was going to get a 2020 Tacoma since they're (finally) addressing some of the things I have on my checklist (Carplay, LED lights, a more comfortable seat, etc.)

That Tacoma I had was bulletproof. Other than one small A/C issue it never gave me a problem through multiple states, terrains, etc.

I also cross shopped - I used to drive Rangers so I gave the 2019 a drive.

I then drove Tacoma TRD Off-Roads, TRD Sports and the TRD Pro. Probably drove them 7-8 times total, to compare.

I drove the Ranger again.

Only took two drives and the winner was clear - Ranger by a longshot. Ford knows what they're doing when it comes to trucks. The F150 and the long history of the Ranger is proof of that.

KBB is one opinion and I never do understand where they're coming from - Good lord they have to be "experts" in everything from vacuum cleaners to soap to vehicles. Read these forums, watch the videos posted by TFLTruck, etc.

I bet you'll end up with the same opinion I got to.

I don't regret the decision, not for a second. Love my Ranger. Proud to be back in one.
 

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I have not driven the Toyota, but on the pot holed gravel I have to drive every day the Ranger FX4 is "bouncy" and a little stiff for me. It's great on the highway however. My advice is to drive both the "standard" 4x4 and the FX4 and see which one you like the best.
 

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I traded a diesel mega-cab Ram 3/4 ton 4x4 truck for the ranger 4x4. The Ranger ride is better. The Ranger seats are better by a mile. It's certainly quieter. We all have our own opinions, and you're going to make up your own mind. Enjoy the ride!
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