Transmission Replaced

[jeff81]

No surprise here. GM put the VTI transmission in around 150,000 Saturns and when their failure rate approached 100% their solution was either to buy your vehicle back with $5000 toward another GM vehicle or offer a one-time, 50/50 replacement with a used trans that had a 12 month, 12,000 warranty. Let's do the math here: with Option 1, my car was paid off but the transmission was blown. GM offered me five grand off the 30,000 or so it would have cost me to buy another vehicle that I would have had to pay off. Option 2: GM would have gone in halfsies-that's $2500 each-on a used transmission that had a 12/12 warranty. If that one failed after that I was SOL and if it failed before that I was SOL. This BS is the reason why I left GM forever and went with Ford. Too soon old, too late smart, I guess...

Oh, and I sold the Saturn to a family who took it back to Mexico. They told me that down there someone had figured out how to put a standard trans in the VTI platform, which was something they couldn't do here. Tech for its own sake is the Devil.

I also had given up on GM. So many electronic issues in the early 00’s and some still today. The throttle bodies were all junk. They’d almost kill you when you hammered the gas and the servo feedback was bad so it would put you in limp mode. This always happened when you were pulling into traffic. How no one ever died is beyond me. I also have been with Ford pretty consistently with very good luck for the last 15 years. My last car was a Jeep. It was great but reliability was lacking. No major issues just a lot of small ones. I decided to trade in for something I felt would last long because I travel for work so I do not drive a lot and really a vehicle can last me 20 years no problem. So I found a 2020 GMC Canyon Duramax Denali that was beautiful. Had 18000 on it. I didn’t have it 4 hours and had a terrible transmission shudder and super had shifts from 2-3. I couldn’t believe it. Brought it right back and got a 21 Tremor instead. Also kicked myself and said I knew I shouldn’t have trusted that GM got better

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[VAMike]

Two unrelated issues...DPFE sensor is to fix engine drivability issues...miss shifts, slipping clutch, slamming gears related to the transmission are on another level of hurt...go have it checked or start saving...

I actually wonder if they are related--maybe the transmission is trying to adapt to a completely screwed up throttle control? And the hesitation followed by burst of power can't be great for the drive train, either.

 

[Y2Dip84]

Brought the truck in for the hard/long shifts I’ve been experiencing (see prior post) and the tech drove the truck and acknowledged the problem. They updated the PCM with TSB 22-2428 (I believe Ford issues this in May) and noted to drive it a couple hundred miles so the transmission “relearns” my driving habits. The results? A noticeable difference in low gear shifts, a lot more smooth. Will this be the case in a week or month from now? Not sure but I did ask if my problem was mechanical (not software) related and he assured me it wasn’t. Of course my warranty runs out this week so joke may be on me…
Ive attached a copy of the bulletin. Mods may want to post with this with the other TSB if not already.

 

[Msfitoy]

Brought the truck in for the hard/long shifts I’ve been experiencing (see prior post) and the tech drove the truck and acknowledged the problem. They updated the PCM with TSB 22-2428 (I believe Ford issues this in May) and noted to drive it a couple hundred miles so the transmission “relearns” my driving habits. The results? A noticeable difference in low gear shifts, a lot more smooth. Will this be the case in a week or month from now? Not sure but I did ask if my problem was mechanical (not software) related and he assured me it wasn’t. Of course my warranty runs out this week so joke may be on me…
Ive attached a copy of the bulletin. Mods may want to post with this with the other TSB if not already.

Buy your extended warranty while you can...

 

[DrewKD88]

Update:

New transmission is good. Just came back from a 2 week trip. Drove 3,300 miles up the coast of California, Oregon, and Washington and back down on the east side of each state. I climbed....a lot! did some offroading on the beach and on the trails. Went through the desert, snow caped mountains, and everything in between. Even took a ferry. Shifting is as desired. 4 Low, 4 High, Locker, Highway and stop and go traffic all performed as it should. I do love this truck. I just wish the tranny lasted longer for me.

 

[DrewKD88]

Don't mind the kid trying to jump out.

 

[Msfitoy]

Don't mind the kid trying to jump out.

Definitely not going to fit in my garage and I'm guessing 12 mpg highway...

 

[Rhino]

these threads showing up are starting to make me regret selling my old tacoma.... at the time nobody was having issues it seemed with these trucks now its showing up more...

its sad these trucks are having this issue when i dont know many second gens tacomas with a dead trans unless it was something really really dumb and even then most of the time they held out without issues...

 

[Wang.S]

There's several recent TSB's on the trans. Not just the one listed above.
I would like to believe that many of us with issues, would see relief if they were applied.

 

[Racket]

I'm pretty sure the crucial issues with the 10R80 transmission have been identified and Ford starting this year has updated the common failure components.

For those of us with the pre-2023 transmission our options are either wait for failure if under warranty+ extended if you got it - or - spend a few grand on the updated CDF, a custom valve body and superior Raybestos clutches, a shop that will competently put it all together and get the necessary programming on it and then hopefully you've got a transmission that will go as long as you might keep the truck that's superior to stock.

If you like your truck it may be a good investment. If you can take the hit on depreciation and afford to venture into the new/used car market it may be your path.

I bought the extended warranty.

I've spent money and invested my own time on my truck to make it what I want and practically own it outright. I'd work out the issues on the transmission since I don't think there is a better truck out of the box at this price.

It seems even the new generation Rangers shouldn't be plagued by the same failure but geez that price tag.

 

[Jason B]

these threads showing up are starting to make me regret selling my old tacoma.... at the time nobody was having issues it seemed with these trucks now its showing up more...

its sad these trucks are having this issue when i dont know many second gens tacomas with a dead trans unless it was something really really dumb and even then most of the time they held out without issues...

SOME trucks are having issues, the majority don't.
I don't want to have to list again all the vehicles that use this same transmission (hint: there are millions out there).

 

[Msfitoy]

SOME trucks are having issues, the majority don't.
I don't want to have to list again all the vehicles that use this same transmission (hint: there are millions out there).

Hopefully you're correct...most Rangers haven't crossed the 90K mark either...

 

[DrewKD88]

Definitely not going to fit in my garage and I'm guessing 12 mpg highway...

Close. I get 14.5 mpg city/offroad and 17 - 18 on highway. I live in Commiefornia so it really hits the wallet. Gas around me is averaging around $5.00 for 87. Some are as high as $5.50 within a mile from here. I gas up from Costco and Sam's Club every chance I get. But it beats needing a Tesla supercharger any day. Murica!

 

[Msfitoy]

Close. I get 14.5 mpg city/offroad and 17 - 18 on highway. I live in Commiefornia so it really hits the wallet. Gas around me is averaging around $5.00 for 87. Some are as high as $5.50 within a mile from here. I gas up from Costco and Sam's Club every chance I get. But it beats needing a Tesla supercharger any day. Murica!

That's impressive for the amount of gear and front area you're dealing with...$5/gallon would probably keep me on my Honda 125 more than the Ranger lol...

 

[Rhino]

Close. I get 14.5 mpg city/offroad and 17 - 18 on highway. I live in Commiefornia so it really hits the wallet. Gas around me is averaging around $5.00 for 87. Some are as high as $5.50 within a mile from here. I gas up from Costco and Sam's Club every chance I get. But it beats needing a Tesla supercharger any day. Murica!

luuucky when my tacoma was decked out with everything and 34s i got 9mpg on highway lmao

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