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Im old enough to predate synthetic oils. In the 70’s and 80’s, people routinely changed oil at 3k miles. Today’s oils are much better, but engines also run harder. I had a 1989 Mustang GT with a 5.0 V8 that only put out 225 hp/ 300 lb ft (can you believe that?), so this little 2.3 is putting out more than that. I have always changed the oil in every vehicle I have ever owned at every 5000 and have never had a car in the shop with an engine related issue. It may not be necessary, but it certainly doesn’t hurt.
In 1988 at 18 years old I ordered and purchased my first new car. A 1988 Mustang LX Notchback 5.0. Yeah it only had 225hp but it was a pretty fast and fun car! Wish I would have kept that car! and yeah I changed my oil in it every 3000 miles. 5000 in my Ranger.
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When my 2003 Mountaineer was newer, I always had the oil changed at 3000 - 3500 miles. As it aged (still have it, now at 123,00 miles), I slacked a bit but never went more than 4000 - 5000 miles between changes. I've always had tires rotated when in for oil changes. Always bought the road hazard warranty on new tires which required tires be rotated every 5000 miles (for the $36/per all 4 tires, believe me that little extra fee was worth it... one time had a screw go through side wall of all most brand new tire so tire had to be trashed and was replaced under road hazzard warranty).

So since I plan on having the Ranger's tires rotated every 5000 miles, I'm just going to have oil change done at same time.
 

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Turbos are hard on oil. Direct injection is hard on oil. Mostly 7500 or so for me, when I was commuting 110 miles a day, I’d go 10k because the oil was barely 2 months old before I’d get there.
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The 3000 mile oil change interval was something that Jiffy Lube and other fast oil change places pushed onto the public in the 70s. My 68 Plymouth Barracuda recommended 6000 mile oil changes. I would have to check but I also think the recommendation was for the filter to be changed every other time.
 

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The 3000 mile oil change interval was something that Jiffy Lube and other fast oil change places pushed onto the public in the 70s. My 68 Plymouth Barracuda recommended 6000 mile oil changes. I would have to check but I also think the recommendation was for the filter to be changed every other time.
The 3000 mile oil change is at least as old as the early 1950s. I have owned two Advance Design (1947-1955) Chevrolet pickups. These trucks did not have an oil filter installed at the factory, but had plugged ports in the engine block for an add-on filter. The add-on filter changed the recommended oil change interval from 1000 to 3000 miles. These filters were bypass units - not full-flow - so there was minimal risk of oil starvation at cold start. My Frantz aftermarket filter (still making bypass systems today, BTW) used a roll of toilet paper as the filter media.

EDIT: Clarifying note. The 1000/3000 OCI is for the 235 c.i. inline six, which appeared in 1954. This was a huge step forward in technology. It replaced the 216 c.i. six, which did not have pressurized crankshaft bearings. These were rabbit-bearing engines, with a small dipper on the leading edge of the rod cap that literally scooped oil from the pan on each revolution of the engine. If memory serves, these engines were 500/1000 mile OCI, without and with filter. Positive crankshaft ventilation was a long way off at this point, and a full day of around-town low-speed delivery driving would contaminate the oil very quickly. You had to get it up to highway speed (40+ or so) to make the road-draft tube do a reasonable job of venting combustion blow-by from the crankcase. Even then, the oil didn't last long.
 
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When my 2003 Mountaineer was newer, I always had the oil changed at 3000 - 3500 miles. As it aged (still have it, now at 123,00 miles), I slacked a bit but never went more than 4000 - 5000 miles between changes. I've always had tires rotated when in for oil changes. Always bought the road hazard warranty on new tires which required tires be rotated every 5000 miles (for the $36/per all 4 tires, believe me that little extra fee was worth it... one time had a screw go through side wall of all most brand new tire so tire had to be trashed and was replaced under road hazzard warranty).

So since I plan on having the Ranger's tires rotated every 5000 miles, I'm just going to have oil change done at same time.
I go every 6,000 for the Quick Lane Works package, and still have a lot of oil life index showing usually. Back in the Jet Age, my dad and most folks would get the oil changed every 1000-1200 miles, usually at a service station on his way to or from work. There were no self-serve, gasoline-only or convenience stores in my area at the time. It took only about 10 minutes and there was no multipoint inspection-interior vacuum etc. such.
Kendall used to market theirs as the 2,000 mile oil.
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My opinion:
I change at every 5k(semi/full synth), give or take a few hundred miles, or once a year whichever comes first.
$40-$50 a year for an oil change is not going to kill me when you consider the fact that license plate stickers cost more...

I don't waste my time with oil lab reports, if something about the oil condition catches my attention (Gritty appearance, odd coloration, fuel odor, ect) I I will take action. Taking care of the engine is my top priority, but imo at the end of the day it's a mass produced pickup, not a race car.

Oil brands? I stick to OEM but I won't lose sleep if I switch to a different brand. Mobil 1 or valvoline are my usual go-to brands. Same with filters minus crap fram.





If someone else wants to monitor every aspect of their oil, Hey good on you for caring about your investment. Just don't preach to me about it.
 

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The 3000 mile oil change is at least as old as the early 1950s. I have owned two Advance Design (1947-1955) Chevrolet pickups. These trucks did not have an oil filter installed at the factory, but had plugged ports in the engine block for an add-on filter. The add-on filter changed the recommended oil change interval from 1000 to 3000 miles. These filters were bypass units - not full-flow - so there was minimal risk of oil starvation at cold start. My Frantz aftermarket filter (still making bypass systems today, BTW) used a roll of toilet paper as the filter media.
I understand that and if you go back even further engines had external valve trains that oil dropped onto from a tank. But by the mid 60s manufacturers were no longer recommending 3000 mile oil changes. When Jiffy Lube arrived on the seen in the early 70s that had a large add campaign implying that your engine would self destruct if you weren't changing the oil on 3000 mile intervals.
 

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I understand that and if you go back even further engines had external valve trains that oil dropped onto from a tank. But by the mid 60s manufacturers were no longer recommending 3000 mile oil changes. When Jiffy Lube arrived on the seen in the early 70s that had a large add campaign implying that your engine would self destruct if you weren't changing the oil on 3000 mile intervals.
I understand your point now. It seems likely that the introduction of PCV systems enabled longer OCIs. I think that was ‘66 in California, and a few years later for the rest of the USA. I didn’t get a license until ‘79, so I have no recollection of oil changes before then.
 

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On a side note, we've owned two Honda's, one a 2003 crv and the other 2008 element (I think that's the year) and they both had the motor oils changed on Honda intervals and used the oil they suggest. They both started to use oil at about 140k mileages. Our mechanic says he's not certain where its going. Oh well.
 
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Gotta love 'oil change' threads....

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not that it should be extended. oil degrades quickly after a certain point. 5,000 miles for me with full synthetic. I spent a lot of money- to me- on this truck and little things to make it last longer is a win
Every six months...Full synthetic Ford. 20 model with 10k just to be safe. Cheap insurance.
 

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10k miles seems so long to me. i grew up with every 3 month or 3k rule drilled in my mind. but, the modern oils and filters mixed with the modern tech to monitor oil life etc. i go past 3k all the time now. I tend to watch the oil life # more than the miles on the 5g ranger.
 
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I did my first oil change at 1K miles. As it is a 2020 model and was already 2 years old. So wanted fresh oil. As of now I only have 4K miles total so be a bit before I do next change.
 
 








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