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Actual Off Road Use and Abuse? Stock FX4 Hankook ATMs, Presumably P Rated.

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100% agree...I've had much worse stock tires on my two previous rangers including a sharp piece of gravel slicing right between sidewall and tread (Firestone Destination AT)
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I am looking forward to trying the LT Cooks on some trails when the Ranger comes in. Won't replace them right away but if need be I will in the future.
 

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I ran the Hankooks for about 10k miles, on about my fifth off road trip is when I punctured a sidewall

Upgraded to Nitto Ridge Grapplers. 22k miles later and they have performed awesome off road, towing, and regular road use. Probably another 10-15k miles in them. LT tires are too heavy
 
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I have the LT ones. They seem to be okay in the snow it’s hard to say because when I was in 2wd It seemed to be a bit squirrelly. But I think that’s me not managing throttle properly more than the tires. (First vehicle that’s not awd/fwd. in terms on deep snow did fine imo. i did some power line trails that had everything from mud to sand and it seemed okay on those as well. seem Fine to me. But the psi of 38 they want seems to make the truck ride rougher.
I would lower them to 32-34PSI cold
 

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I ran the Hankooks for about 10k miles, on about my fifth off road trip is when I punctured a sidewall

Upgraded to Nitto Ridge Grapplers. 22k miles later and they have performed awesome off road, towing, and regular road use. Probably another 10-15k miles in them
I have the same ones Garrett any really like them too. I've got just over 20K on mine and they're wearing really good and I rotate them every 5K. What I really love it they're quiet on the road and you don't get that road noise (humming) like some tires have.
 


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If it makes you feel any better about taking your truck on a trip without much prep, new vehicles have road side assistance. This can provide some peace of mind. My wife and I took our Jeep Renegade 4x4 (Renegade, like the tiny not-really-a-jeep, jeep) on a 3,000+ mile vacation. We ended up going through colorado, Wyoming, Utah, into Idaho, and then to Moab. Where we did Hell's Revenge, Dinosaur tracks, And Gemini bridges to bull canyon, ON STOCK TIRES. Dunlop Signature II tires. We did all of that with the worst tires sold ever, not even A/T's. I would trust a LingLong more than those. We just sent it. No spare either.

We had so much fun, the whole trip literally changed our lives. Don't overthink it too much, be smart where you drive, be flexible and don't let something small like a tire ruin your day/trip. Have fun and make memories! Also, our rangers are WAY WAY more capable than a stock Upland Renegade. Jus sayin ;)
 

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I have purchased several sets of Hankook tires over the years. They have all been good tires and have gotten at least 50K on every set. This is my first set on a truck. I now have 13K on them and they still look brand new. Go drive your truck and enjoy it.
 
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So you stuck with P Rated for your Nittos?

I ran the Hankooks for about 10k miles, on about my fifth off road trip is when I punctured a sidewall

Upgraded to Nitto Ridge Grapplers. 22k miles later and they have performed awesome off road, towing, and regular road use. Probably another 10-15k miles in them. LT tires are too heavy
 
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I'm risk-reasonable, not risk-averse! I'm not worried where I have cell reception, a spare and/or AAA within reach. Where I'm talking about is no cell service, desert environments. I had a close call with my Subaru - radiator failed, took out head gasket. Radiator fan to blame after 11 years and 140,000 miles.

Just so happened to do it at the bottom of a canyon with a two mile 4x4 road to get in and out. I limped out overheating, stopping, cooling, repeat. Now, we had water, shelter and food. If we hadn't been able to limp to the one tiny town in a 50 mile radius, we'd be flirting with a true isolating stranding situation. If we were rookies with only a bottle of 7 up, we'd be dead in a couple days if no one came by.

If my Subaru can take rocky abuse with P Rated Falken Wildpeak Trails (made for crossovers), then I'm not averse to P Rated Hankook ATMs. A spare is good and I have both sidewall and tread repair kits, Vaiar compressor, etc.. I just hate that feeling of having your spare mounted and no spare left, but the same terrain to get through that punctured a tire already.

I'm just trying to determine if P rated ATMs are truly as weak as some have reported. This informs both the amount of risk I take with them on and perhaps the amount of time I leave them on before spending another grand + on new tires, which pisses me off btw. A $40,000 FX4 should come stock with off road ready tires, not off road-maybe tires.

If it makes you feel any better about taking your truck on a trip without much prep, new vehicles have road side assistance. This can provide some peace of mind. My wife and I took our Jeep Renegade 4x4 (Renegade, like the tiny not-really-a-jeep, jeep) on a 3,000+ mile vacation. We ended up going through colorado, Wyoming, Utah, into Idaho, and then to Moab. Where we did Hell's Revenge, Dinosaur tracks, And Gemini bridges to bull canyon, ON STOCK TIRES. Dunlop Signature II tires. We did all of that with the worst tires sold ever, not even A/T's. I would trust a LingLong more than those. We just sent it. No spare either.

We had so much fun, the whole trip literally changed our lives. Don't overthink it too much, be smart where you drive, be flexible and don't let something small like a tire ruin your day/trip. Have fun and make memories! Also, our rangers are WAY WAY more capable than a stock Upland Renegade. Jus sayin ;)
 

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I'm risk-reasonable, not risk-averse! I'm not worried where I have cell reception, a spare and/or AAA within reach. Where I'm talking about is no cell service, desert environments. I had a close call with my Subaru - radiator failed, took out head gasket. Radiator fan to blame after 11 years and 140,000 miles.

Just so happened to do it at the bottom of a canyon with a two mile 4x4 road to get in and out. I limped out overheating, stopping, cooling, repeat. Now, we had water, shelter and food. If we hadn't been able to limp to the one tiny town in a 50 mile radius, we'd be flirting with a true isolating stranding situation. If we were rookies with only a bottle of 7 up, we'd be dead in a couple days if no one came by.

If my Subaru can take rocky abuse with P Rated Falken Wildpeak Trails (made for crossovers), then I'm not averse to P Rated Hankook ATMs. A spare is good and I have both sidewall and tread repair kits, Vaiar compressor, etc.. I just hate that feeling of having your spare mounted and no spare left, but the same terrain to get through that punctured a tire already.

I'm just trying to determine if P rated ATMs are truly as weak as some have reported. This informs both the amount of risk I take with them on and perhaps the amount of time I leave them on before spending another grand + on new tires, which pisses me off btw. A $40,000 FX4 should come stock with off road ready tires, not off road-maybe tires.
I am taking my Truck to some trails in Colorado, and back to Moab in June. I am running SL (P) Kenda Klevar AT2 in 33's. Im prepared for a flat, but not expecting one. After going through all of the trails and sharp rocks that I went through with the stock Dunlops on the Jeep, I am convinced you have to Try and pop a new tire lol

Picture is of said Dulop, weighs 21lb, had 37psi in them the whole time.

Edit: We did replace the Dunlops when we got home, We did damage them, there were bubbles in some spots where we damaged the sidewalls. I attached a picture of what we replaced it with, baby for scale.



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I had my stock hankook tire sidewalls brushed up against rocks in Sedona/flagstaff Arizona. Never had a puncture and I pushed them pretty far. (Dumped all my money into suspension and had to wait for tires). I may have just gotten lucky.
 

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At 21k I still have the stock P rated Hankooks. They're not great off road, but they're passable. Most of my off pavement stuff is just gravel forest road stuff to reach trailheads, and lots of tires do fine with that. Reading people's complaints about them, I was actually impressed with how they did when I did get them onto rougher stuff. Granted, the rocks I was driving over were not sharp and I didn't get myself into any real sidewall-scraping situations.

When I wear them out, I will probably wind up getting something that's a little more durable and a little better off-road, but I'll probably still stick with P-rated because fuel economy is still a priority for me most of the rest of the time.
 

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Has anyone here gotten a puncture off road on their P rated Hankooks? I'm going to assume that occurence is very few and far between, but maybe not? I think only a small portion here regularly off road, but any data is better than none! Last thing I want to do is buy new tires for a brand new truck, if the Hankooks are as fragile as a helium ballon. I'd probably roll the dice, rely on the spare if need be and upgrade when I actually have to.
I've been rolling on the stock hankooks for 50,000 miles, including a good amount of off road use in Florida, Georgia, and Arkansas. Lots of creek crossings, rocks, and roots. I've replaced two due to loose screws on the road at work and I think a bigger size would have been handy in a few instances, but no problems specifically due to tire design. Mud traction is garbage, but I have yet to see an AT tire that doesn't struggle here. Treadwear is excellent, on-road performance is nice, not too heavy, and I don't see another all terrain in the same size doing any of those tasks significantly better. I don't really understand all the hate tbh.

Honestly, if you're driving on trails that actually tear up tires then you should invest in dedicated mud or hybrid terrains. They'll weigh 100lb each and cost $400 per tire, but your tread will stay clear and you'll have a little more sidewall protection.
 

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I've been rolling on the stock hankooks for 50,000 miles, including a good amount of off road use in Florida, Georgia, and Arkansas. Lots of creek crossings, rocks, and roots. I've replaced two due to loose screws on the road at work and I think a bigger size would have been handy in a few instances, but no problems specifically due to tire design. Mud traction is garbage, but I have yet to see an AT tire that doesn't struggle here. Treadwear is excellent, on-road performance is nice, not too heavy, and I don't see another all terrain in the same size doing any of those tasks significantly better. I don't really understand all the hate tbh.

Honestly, if you're driving on trails that actually tear up tires then you should invest in dedicated mud or hybrid terrains. They'll weigh 100lb each and cost $400 per tire, but your tread will stay clear and you'll have a little more sidewall protection.
Funny, the Firestone Destination XT'S didnt cost that much nor did they weigh that much and had no problem handling the trails that tear up tires.
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