Might Have To Jump Ship From Bronco To Jeep

[Stevie Gee]

I loved my 2012 Wrangler…performed great and no issues.…and the newer JL version is even better!

Good article in November 2021 Motortrend, too:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/...-wrangler-daily-livability-comparison-review/

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[AzScorpion]

i personally think the Bronco will flop… it’s honestly never gonna live up to the capability of the Jeep and won’t ever have the aftermarket support. And resale value… I agree, it’s gonna tank.

I don't think it will totally flop but I do think once the "newness" wears off they'll need rebates/incentives to move them. I've only been glancing at aftermarket stuff for the Jeep and it's crazy how much is out there.

 

[AzScorpion]

I loved my 2012 Wrangler…performed great and no issues.…and the newer JL version is even better!

Good article in November 2021 Motortrend, too:
https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/...-wrangler-daily-livability-comparison-review/

Thanks for the article Steve. That was one nice looking Jeep, it must of been hard to part with it. I'm really leaning towards getting the Rubicon and letting the dust settle on the Bronco craze for now. Some are still having problems and I'd rather they iron most of the kinks out.

 

[D Fresh]

@AzScorpion Dave, if you get the heated seats/heated sterring wheel you wll be amazed at how much better they are than Fords. And, you'll wonder why Ford can't get an engine/transmisson duo to work as good together as Jeeps 8 spd, and any of their engines. Also, the Alpine system (if you get that) is better than anything Ford, and GM has ever had. I could put the Bose system in my Corvette, and that so called upgraded system in the wife's Mustang together and wouldn't get as good of sound as the Alpine.

Definitely wish the steering wheel was heated in my Ranger. However, I don't see how anybody can complain about the seats. The high setting will literally start to burn your ass in mere minutes. You want shitty heated seats? Go try a Mazda.

Being a 4x4 I'd rather new for the warranty and I can use it for a business write off.

How exactly is a 2 door offroad toy a business write off?

 

[Chris M]

Definitely wish the steering wheel was heated in my Ranger. However, I don't see how anybody can complain about the seats. The high setting will literally start to burn your ass in mere minutes. You want shitty heated seats? Go try a Mazda.

How exactly is a 2 door offroad toy a business write off?

He'll probably put a screwdriver in the glove box and call it a work vehicle.

 

[D Fresh]

He'll probably put a screwdriver in the glove box and call it a work vehicle.

That's my point.

I get it. The loophole is there, we're all looking out for ourselves. I'm sure Dave pays his share of taxes, and I'd maybe do the same. But this is one of the things wrong with our country.

 

[AzScorpion]

Definitely wish the steering wheel was heated in my Ranger. However, I don't see how anybody can complain about the seats. The high setting will literally start to burn your ass in mere minutes. You want shitty heated seats? Go try a Mazda.

How exactly is a 2 door offroad toy a business write off?

Having a very good accountant helps. I take my Ranger out as my primary work vehicle and add the Jeep. As long as I can work out of it it's a legal deduction. You'd be amazed what I can write off, legally of course. Trust me I'm. way to little be be in prison and be someones wife. I don't take any unnecessary chances.

 

[AzScorpion]

whatever works.
I know a guy who bought a ski boat because he had a customer the other side of the lake...didnt let them know there was a fire access road though....just that he needed a boat to move supplies to the jobsite.
then got himself a RZR 1000 for snow removal It actually moved snow quite well with a modified quad blade (once or twice to have pics of it "working")

I was actually thinking of getting a side x side and using it for a partial write off. I could "technically" drive it to work on days when all my equipment is already there and for doing estimates. Everyone here drives them on the road so it would work.

 

[D Fresh]

Having a very good accounts helps. I take my Ranger out as my primary work vehicle and add the Jeep. As long as I can work out of it it's a legal deduction. You'd be amazed what I can write off, legally of course. Trust me I'm. way to little be be in prison and be someones wife. I don't take any unnecessary chances.

I get that's it's legal.

Doesn't make it right though.


Again, not saying I wouldn't do the same either.

 

[AzScorpion]

I get that's it's legal.

Doesn't make it right though.


Again, not saying I wouldn't do the same either.

I don't see what you think its not right. If I'm driving it to work it's a work vehicle doesn't matter if it's a truck, Jeep or a Corvette.

I don't have kids and never got to take advantage of the child tax deduction which in my eyes is a dumb one. Why should you get a deduction for having kids? Again there are many tax codes that don't make sense but somewhere they benefit someone and someone else won't like it.

 

[D Fresh]

I don't see what you think its not right. If I'm driving it to work it's a work vehicle doesn't matter if it's a truck, Jeep or a Corvette.

I don't have kids and never got to take advantage of the child tax deduction which in my eyes is a dumb one. Why should you get a deduction for having kids? Again there are many tax codes that don't make sense but somewhere they benefit someone and someone else won't like it.

Exactly my point.

Tax codes are a constant point of argument in our country. Everybody seems to feel that the "other guy" gets a better deal.

Which is why dismantling the IRS and moving to a straight flat tax with no deductions for anything would be ideal. But that will never happen, the lobbyists won't allow it.

Also, to be clear. In order to qualify as a business write off the vehicle must be "primarily" used for work. Pretty sure your Jeep, or hypothetical Corvette will not be.

Again, not saying I wouldn't do the same. A person can disagree with something philosophically and still take advantage of it.

 

[AzScorpion]

Also, to be clear. In order to qualify as a business write off the vehicle must be "primarily" used for work. Pretty sure your Jeep, or hypothetical Corvette will not be.

Actually it doesn't. You can have a secondary vehicle and use it as a partial write off, ex a certain percent. I use to do it with one of my vehicles years ago as I used it a lot for estimates and other job related stuff like getting supplies.

No different than taking the home office deduction. I write off a certain percent of all my utilities and house taxes. Now it's a small percent and it's based on the sq ft of the room but every little bit helps out. Some accountant will tell you not to do this as it raises a "red flag" which is dumb. It's legal so why not take it?

 

[D Fresh]

Actually it doesn't. You can have a secondary vehicle and use it as a partial write off, ex a certain percent. I use to do it with one of my vehicles years ago as I used it a lot for estimates and other job related stuff like getting supplies.

No different than taking the home office deduction. I write off a certain percent of all my utilities and house taxes. Now it's a small percent and it's based on the sq ft of the room but every little bit helps out. Some accountant will tell you not to do this as it raises a "red flag" which is dumb. It's legal so why not take it?

Yes, my fault for assuming you meant 100% when you said "write it off."

I've heard the "red flag" argument myself from accountants before. I don't buy it.

 

[McLeadslinger]

I don't think it will totally flop but I do think once the "newness" wears off they'll need rebates/incentives to move them. I've only been glancing at aftermarket stuff for the Jeep and it's crazy how much is out there.

I have friends who are jeep people. I only wish my aftermarket support for my Ranger was equal. Lol. I’ve got close to 6k in suspension, wheels and tires waiting to go on my truck and I still won’t scratch the surface of jeep capability.

 

[AzScorpion]

I have friends who are jeep people. I only wish my aftermarket support for my Ranger was equal. Lol. I’ve got close to 6k in suspension, wheels and tires waiting to go on my truck and I still won’t scratch the surface of jeep capability.

That's why I didn't want to sink a lot of money into my Ranger. I off road it and it's great for certain trails but it does bounce you around a lot on others so new suspension would be great. But it's still not going to do what I want it to do. Somehow I see this Jeep delaying my retirement. lol

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